OrgasmWiki:Village Pump
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The wiki is now LIVE on www.multiples.com
Now that the wiki is live under the www.multiples.com domain name, all linkage from within the wiki to the create account form has gone away!
Due to the software design - that's the best that could be done at with the latest version. Now, anybody who wants in will have to be manually entered by someone who already does have an O-wiki username.
We may want to make further restrictions on that ability - like only sysops (definitely trusted folk, like you!, Z!) can signup newbies.
As usual, the growth of this website is pushing the software envelope. As clunky as the current Forum has been - at the time it came online - 1997 - it had far more features - than anything else out there. I really looked hard cuz I did NOT want to get stuck on IIS but... there it was. Nothing on linux at the time compared in the variety of functions.
And I didn't just want to jump to phpBBS at that time cuz it was full of security holes and didn't have the ability to produce a threaded html archive of the whole danged thing - which WebBoard has had for some time.
From Blog to Article
Here's the rub: Blogs traditionally have the most recent event posted at the top. But an article - i.e. a narrative of one's Awakening... tends to be sequential from the early days to date. To present the same story in both formats would seem like a lot of work.
What's the best way? I'm not sure. My intuition says: "Dealer's Choice". Let the individual decide. But then perhaps a balance - flexibility of choice, but within some small set of variants so the newbie will have a fair chance at accessing the info.
What do you think about this?
Z: 20061102-1957UTC
Agreed with all especially Dealer's choice. I particularly think it makes sense to have, for example, local time entered; its quicker for the user AND visitor to use their own zone and so long as its entered consistently it will be obvious that one post took place after the former. I think there should be a caveat that visitors may ADD TO but NEVER edit the words of a blogger's post.
THE NEXT TWO SECTIONS - BOTH BEGINNING WITH "IMPORTANCE AND VALUE" S/B MOVED TO THE OPTIMUM GETTING STARTED / TIPS AREA
Importance and value of using secondary headers like this
Not only does it help you easily identify different sections, but it also automatically generates a Table of Contents (TOC) at the top of the page.
Importance and value of using the Summary field found at the bottom of every edit page
This is a very useful feature of the wiki! It puts the Summary field text contents as a descriptive tag on that particular edit in the Recent Changes list.
I'd like to ask that everyone who edits a page puh-leez put something descriptive in that Summary field about your particular edit before clicking the Save Page button.
Suggestions for New Pages
GOAL: Natural Language Searchable OrgasmWiki
JJ: 20061104-0635UTC: I think a Primary Goal should be to create pages named exactly the way people typically type search terms and phrases in the search box.
By doing that, we will develop a Natural language search capability.
Sources of natural language key words and phrases
One list are the terms that appear in the main multiples.com search tool log.
BTW, I'm sorry to say that after all the hoo hah, it's not working as advertised! Not (yet?) delivering a clean list of pages actually containing the complete phrase entered.
Nevertheless, people are TRYING to get answers there. So... there IS a log of natural language entries.
Likewise there is a log for the QUOTE Search /QUOTE tool for the Forum. (What IS it with these programming geniuses that they can't deliver a true keyphrase search-capable SE? Oy!)
My solution is a bit of a brute force one but I'm just frustrated enough with those semi-search engines that I'm gonna ask our userbase to take a crack at it.
My (JJ's) optimism goal* is based on the working hypothesis that there is a moderately(?)-sized set of common terms and phrases that most people tend to enter.
- "optimism" - nice slip for "optimum" I'm leavin' it in to honor my subconscious!
An Ideal imho is that we have a page for every one of those most-common key words and phrases - with meaningful content including good cites from the Forum Archive - as well as internal links to other areas of the wiki.
For similar phrases: redirects to the page with the most common form of the phrase (or the nearly-most-common at least).
The Wiki Interface makes this kind of stuff INCREDIBLY easy!
Suggested Page Names Policy
- No longer than necessary, but long enough to distinguish them from other pages and likely to be found by user keyword searches of the title.
- Multiple Orgasm page title made SINGULAR as that's a MUCH more frequently searched phrase in the SEs. You can then do a REDIRECT from _Multiple Orgasms_ plural so that either way, people get to the right page. Same strategy for Orgasm.
- The convention is to Capitalize as Multiple Orgasm.
- the fewer rules we present to our senior users (and even to some of us a little younger) the better.
COMMENTS PLEASE?
Need for developing our Help area
BTW, a subject area in WikiSpeak is known as a Namespace
ERGO:
Need for developing our Help Namespace
Jack: 20061025 2207 PDT - One thing that we are in dire need of is our own help documents. That whole Namespace is empty. BUT the good news is that MediWiki put all of their Help Documents in the PD i.e. the Public Domain, so that means that we may freely copy and adapt their pages to our needs. NICE! Looks like we just need a volunteer to go to: Help:Editing_pages and copy that content into a page on the OrgasmWiki that has EXACTLY the same page name. That EXACTLY part is very important, btw.
Here's the one for Help:Starting_a_new_page
Thanks!
Task Status Report from Z
To do: Simple Tutorial
A simple tutorial on that from-the-Forum page perhaps using the name How to use the OrgasmWiki or the like... AND/or How do I use the OrgasmWiki - or ???
One of the very first things in the tutorial needs to be where do they go to ask general questions for help? Some wikis have a [Support Desk] page. What do you think about setting up something like that and putting a link in the left col NavBox?
JJ: 20061116-0344UTC: I have created a Support Desk hub-page with links to an Inbox for Wiki help and to an Inbox for KSMO help. I'm still researching how to edit a skin to get stuff into that left column index.
