Hi,

I have been practising MMO for nearly 3 months. Over a month ago i had great success - shaking, pleasure waves, strong echo effects in all.

However, I have been very busy and sick, and it is now a month later and I have made no progress. I still live at home with my parents - so noise & privacy is also a problem.

I am trying to practice 3 times a week. And if my body responds, it responds. To be perfectly honest I am looking for some encouragement and support from this great support network Jack has created.

I also have a g/f - and I find ejaculating a wierd. Since MMO my ejacultions have become way more intense - but after I ejaculate I am left with a devastatingly empty and vulnerable feeling. (even when i ejaculate by myself I feel like this) I am falling in love with this girl, and all other aspects of relationship are realy good. But this part is really worrying me. Any suggestions?? - I tried to talk about this to a university counsellor, but honestly she simply rolled her eyes and brushed it off.

I feel that MMO will open up new ways of intimacy, but at the moment I feel unsure of whether I will get there. (I know I am putting pressure on myself).

My specific question, is that the time I had good echo effects, i breathed in through the nose deeply, then exhaled smoothly out the mouth. My AUTO inbreath was just an extension of my deep breathing. Is this okay - or is it off protocol.

Like I said, I am writing this because I would appreciate some encouragemnt and advice. Jack has made such a great suport network, you can really feel the love and care from it, and i though i would take advantage of it.

Thanks everyone for your time and effort!!
Alex

Hi Alex,

>I have been practising MMO for nearly 3 >months. Over a month ago i had great >success - shaking, pleasure waves, strong >echo effects in all.

Great! Sounds like a fine start.


>However, I have been very busy and sick, >and it is now a month later and I have made >no progress. I still live at home with my >parents - so noise & privacy is also a >problem.

Well being sick and a lack of privacy can certainly be a problem. Two things you really want is plenty of extra energy, and a chance to relax in your sessions without worrying about privacy. Hopefully, you'll have a chance to rest up and recover from being sick. As for privacy, I wish I had some good advice for you there.


>I am trying to practice 3 times a week. And >if my body responds, it responds. To be >perfectly honest I am looking for some >encouragement

Well, 3 times a week sounds good to me. I'm glad you're not pressuring yourself about responses. That casual attitude, with no expectations, is perfect for practice. I want you to know, I'm sure you CAN do this! It just seems that right now, you have a lot of extenuating circumstances to deal with. That has nothing to do with your ability to learn KSMO! It just means you may have to give it some time until you have better opportunities for practice and a little more energy available to you. With a little patience and a positive attitude, you get there before ya know it!

>I also have a g/f - and I find ejaculating >a wierd. Since MMO my ejacultions have >become way more intense - but after I >ejaculate I am left with a devastatingly >empty and vulnerable feeling.

I know just how you feel! In fact, a lot of guys around here have experienced or are experiencing the same thing. It seems that when you are first learning this system, the intensity of your ejaculations can outweigh the intensity of your Echo Effects and MMO's. So that can certainly be a major drain. It's quite normal, but it's also just a phase in practice. As your orgasmic capacity increases, and your ability to have MMO's improves, your ejaculations will continue to feel better than before, but they will become LESS draining as time goes by. You're just in that first stage of discovering a new kind of sexual energy and orgasms within you. As you move through it, you'll feel better than ever and have little or no draining effects to deal with. At least, that's how it was for me!


>I am falling in love with this girl, and >all other aspects of relationship are realy >good. But this part is really worrying me. >Any suggestions??

I know it's tricky going through some major changes while in a new relationship. All I can say is, you're learning something wonderful, and in the long run, it will most likely be a tremendous benefit in your relationships. If you think she may have noticed you feeling uncomfortably vulnerable or drained after ejaculating, you may want to simply have a talk with her sometime and tell her what you are learning, and that this is just a minor phase in the early practice. I'm not sure if that feels like the right thing or you, but my general feeling is, honesty is the best policy. If she's already concerned, she may feel better to know it's not you, it's just part of a learning process. Of course, if for any reason you feel that discussing this with her is a bad idea, then simply knowing this is just a phase, may help you relax into it more and feel less concerned.

>I tried to talk about this to a university >counsellor, but honestly she simply rolled >her eyes and brushed it off.

I'm sorry you didn't get a supportive response. I think it's a shame that more people don't see the real emotional impact of the infamous Male Refractory Period. It certainly CAN feel devastating. There MANY guys out there who have the same issues with this. You're certainly not alone. The good news is, you are on a path that will eventually help free you from this problem. If only more guys knew about this! Still, I applaud you for taking the opportunity to seek some help in addressing these feelings. Not every counselor will work for every problem. But I'm sure, somewhere out there, is a good one that will listen to what you're trying to say about this.

>I feel that MMO will open up new ways of >intimacy, but at the moment I feel unsure >of whether I will get there. (I know I am >putting pressure on myself).

Hey man, we ALL have those doubts in the beginning. It's ok to wonder if it will work for you. Just keep in mind, that some of the guys who were most skeptical about their ability to learn this (myself included), are some of the ones who are happiest with the results! You're right, it WILL open new paths of intimacy within you. Just try not worry about the destination and enjoy the journey!

>My specific question, is that the time I >had good echo effects, i breathed in >through the nose deeply, then exhaled >smoothly out the mouth. My AUTO inbreath >was just an extension of my deep breathing. >Is this okay - or is it off protocol.

Hmm, I think I made need a little more info on this one. When you say your AUTO breath (Pleasure Sigh) was just an extension, do you mean it didn't really feel AUTOMATIC to you? If so, then yeah, you're probably a smidge off protocol. Perhaps you could use a little fine tuning there. Could you get back to us with more on that part?

>Like I said, I am writing this because I >would appreciate some encouragemnt and >advice. Jack has made such a great suport >network, you can really feel the love and >care from it, and i though i would take >advantage of it.

I TOTALLY understand! A little encouragement can go a long way! I received a lot of help and support when I came here, I hope we can keep that cycle going for you too.

>Thanks everyone for your time and effort!!
>Alex

You're very welcome, and thank YOU for sharing your experiences with the community. By telling your story, you are helping others who come to this site seeking advice and encouragement as well!

Please keep us posted on how things are going for you, and let us know if there's any other questions or comments you may have.

Best Wishes,

Pan :-)

There is one little thing which might be relevant to add here guys & the credit for this insight should go to my old Chi Kung teacher when I had exactly the same problem.

he explained to me that since I was involved in energy work I was running with more energy than ever before & therefore when I ejaculated I would actually miss it more.

Just a thought for you to chew on but it felt right at the time & since I began ksmo I have had a lot more energy to play with than I ever used to have.

Phil

Hi Alex,

I cannot relate to everything you write, but to a lot of it I can.

"And if my body responds, it responds."

That is most certainly the way KSMO works for me. There have
been periods where the intensity and at times the satisfaction is
"so so." Interestingly I have often found a short time later, that
actually it was MY assessment of things that was underestimating
how good things really were. It's like you get to a point and it
APPEARS that the changes or improvements have slowed or
stopped. You mention comparing yourself to how you felt one
month ago. I suggest your memory of one month ago, unless you
put it in detailed writing, may not be as accurate as you think it is. It
is entirely possible that things are better now than they were then,
and that your "comparison" is not accurate. I have done such a
thing myself many times. Also when on a plateau I have often
thought, is that all there is? But in the end, my orgasms AND my
orgasms with ejaculation are better than they used to be. I'd pay
special attention to be as aware of things as possible during your
practice....every tiny little sensation, AND how it is feeling to you at
that moment.

"Since MMO my ejacultions have become way more intense - but
after I ejaculate I am left with a devastatingly empty and vulnerable
feeling."

Has that been an ongoing thing with you? Even before KSMO? If
so, I'm with Pan that it is probably an energy deficit or something,
becoming more pronounced due to KS energy movement/use. Are
there physical sensations as well, tiredness, or is it FEELINGS of
emptiness and vulnerability? Fur balls you know.

"I feel unsure of whether I will get there."

That's a big one, especially if you are at a plateau. YOU HAVE
BEEN THERE (experiencing great pleasure), YOU WILL BE
THERE AGAIN...when it is time, when things are right.

"...i breathed in through the nose deeply, then exhaled smoothly
out the mouth. My AUTO inbreath was just an extension of my
deep breathing. Is this okay - or is it off protocol."

As to the "deeply" and "smoothly" maybe that is off protocol if you
are making an effort to "be" that way when breathing. What I've
found is that when I breathe normally in a relaxed way, I also in a
relaxed way touch or stroke and stimulate at a point just slightly
before my lungs are "full" (not really full you know) of air. That way
there is enough air to make your KS on your exhale after you feel
the erotic effects of stimulation. So maybe watch your timing a bit.
In a relaxed easeful way of course.

Good luck.

Thanks all for your replies!! It ha helped and is continuing to help... i will reply in more detail soon as I am working through a few things (fur balls) and I am trying to clear all my mind noise to help let me just feel what I feel...Already GOOD feelings - Again I thank you all for the support that i needed, and look forward to posting my story that will hopefully help others to!
alex

Alex,
Good for you for addressing the furballs!

Some folks make the error of believing that the KSMO practice will automatically fix all of the old wounds.

Not so! And I'm glad you appreciate that working THROUGH the furballs using the help you need (including professional, if/when indicated) is the action that is ON protocol.

Good on ya, mate!

Yes please do keep us posted.

Very best wishes,
Jack