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Old 17th July 2003, 05:10
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Default first time experiencing a non-orgasmic ejaculation



I started practice with KSMO with stimulation but I accidently ejaculated. I did notice something though. When I squirted I noticed that there was no orgasmic sensation that usually a companies ejaculation especially during wet dreams. Just a squirt. Ok I didn't empty my semen out fully because I stopped stimulation but I did reach that point of no return. Could this be another sign of the flood gates opening?


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Old 17th July 2003, 15:37
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Accidental ejaculation happens during the learning process. It is a
sign that you are experiencing more stimulation than arousal.
Stimulation and arousal work together. But only enough
stimulation should be use to arouse yourself to the point of feeling
the echo effects or pleasure waves. Those waves need to become
familiar to you and to slowly grow as you relax your mind and body
more and more.

Of course the point of Key Sound Multiple Orgasm (KSMO) is NOT
"non-orgasmic ejaculation" it is "multiple orgasms WITHOUT
ejaculation."

When your arousal is greater than your excitement due to
stimulation you will feel orgasms without any urge to ejaculate.

You may have a timing or breathing problem not knowing exactly
at what point to stimulate, breath, feel and so on...which is also
very common when starting this method. The answers are clear on
the question and answer section of the CD. Also many chat
transcripts cover what is called the protocol or the model of KSMO.

Come to the chat this Saturday and get help. By the way, there
really aren't any flood gates, Jack calls the them the "gates to the
thousand fold pleasures" or something like that. When you can
relax enough, know the KSMO method well, you will experience
more pleasure than you probably can imagine right now. There is
nothing like orgasms that keep going and going and that are quite
different every time. The fact that you are trying different things
(KSMO) and getting some new and different feelings is wonderful.
You are on the path to something...now you just need to
understand the method a little better, more clearly, and the path
will take you to the gates, and beyond them to the pleasures
inside.



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Old 17th July 2003, 18:33
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Default first time experiencing a non-orgasmic ejaculation


Hey Anonymous,

I agree with Mike saying that, "Of course the point of Key Sound Multiple Orgasm (KSMO) is NOT
"non-orgasmic ejaculation" it is "multiple orgasms WITHOUT
ejaculation."

I think what happened in your practice session is that, like Mike said, you used too much stimulation, too quickly. When you first start practicing this method, it is very important NOT to TRY to make yourself have orgasms. These new kinds of orgasms need time to surface on their own. So if you are anywhere near your Point of No Return, you've already gone way too far.

I believe the reason you had a small, "squirt," and no orgasmic sensations is because once you had already gone past your PONR (Point of No Return), you tried to stop that process by ceasing stimulation. So that prevented a, "full," ejaculation, and at the same time it interrupted your arousal which stopped you from feeling the usual orgasm associated with ejaculation. KSMO is not about trying to control or alter your ejaculatory process, but instead learning to increase your arousal without engaging your ejaculatory process or even the urge to ejaculate. In other words, you learn to BYPASS any urge or need to ejaculate at all. If you reach your Point of No Return in the future, just go ahead and ejaculate. You might as well enjoy it! You can always try again next time. Just remember if you already have a strong urge to ejaculate, you've used too much stimulation, and next time go a little slower.

For most beginners, a very common mistake is to just jump into practice with stimulation. Although this sometimes works for some people, usually the best way to learn this is to first spend some time practicing your Key Sound without using any stimulation at all.

My suggestion is to go back and listen to Jack's seminar, especially the parts where he demonstrates the Key Sound. After you've listened to those parts a few times, try doing it yourself and compare with how it sounds when Jack does it. Remember to breath a few times after each Key Sound you make. After each Key Sound, pause for a minute or two and FEEL for any new or different good feelings (Echo Effects) that you hadn't noticed before. These may be very subtle at first, so you'll have to really listen to your body. Keep practicing this regularly until you notice those Echo Effects. Once you do, spend maybe another week or two doing this a little everyday, until you're getting some kind of pleasurable sensation, however mild or subtle it may be, almost every time you make the Key Sound. THEN you're ready to try it with stimulation.

As Mike suggested, a common problem beginners have with this practice is TIMING, most importantly, knowing when to make the Key Sound. When you do start practicing KSMO with stimulation, the two most important things to remember are to keep your stimulation VERY gentle, and only increase it VERY gradually. The other is to know when to make your Key Sound. In order to do this correctly, you need to learn how to identify those automatic, larger-than-average inhales, or, "Pleasure Sighs," which happen when you experience sensual pleasure. The proper time to make your Key Sound is right after these inhales.

So when you feel yourself taking a deeper inbreath from an increase in arousal, you exhale that breath with your Key Sound. Don't force the Key Sound by trying to make it louder or longer than feels natural. Allow your Key Sound to match that inbreath. So if it's a fairly small and subtle inhale (but still larger than the other ones), make a small, soft Key Sound as you exhale that breath. If it's a big inhale, then your Key Sound can be longer, and louder to match it. The important thing is to RESPOND with your Key Sound, to that larger inbreath and increase in arousal you felt from that Pleasure Sigh. Once you can do this, you'll be able to greatly increase your arousal, without becoming overly-excited or approaching your PONR. This is what allows you to have multiple orgasms!

As a final note, I have to disagree with Mike in that there ARE, "Flood Gates," in KSMO. This is a reference to the vast potential of orgasmic pleasure that is lying dormant within you. KSMO helps you to, "unlock," those Gates. We call them, "Flood Gates," because many practitioners have felt that once they have opened them and felt these new orgasmic pleasures, it was like a, "Flood," of orgasms being released. The, "Gate of a Thousand Fold Pleasures," is actually a very old term used in Taoist sexual practices to describe this same experience. "Flood Gates," is Jack's own term for it.

I certainly agree with him saying that there's nothing like experiencing wave after wave of orgasms, without effort or worrying about the urge to ejaculate. You can't quite imagine it, until you've felt it for yourself! But if you keep practicing and learn how to follow the KSMO protocol, you won't have to imagine it, you'll know!

I hope our comments have been helpful for you. Keep reading the Forum posts and Archive Chats and let us know if you have any other questions.

Best of Luck to You,

Pan :-)


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