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Old 20th April 2009, 03:24
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Default problem: ejaculating without orgasm

Just wondering if anyone on this forum has ever heard of something like this.

just for a bit of background, i'm in my late 20s, married for 5+ years and am in very good health.

During sex I have this problem where I ejaculate without any real feeling of pleasure (ie. no orgasm and minimal pleasurable feeling leading up to it) probably 95% of the time. There is a minimal amount of pleasure before ejaculation but basically a point comes, pretty much out of the blue, where i start to feel and can tell that there is likely to be an ejaculation and then there it is - basically it feels like a muscle pulse and not much more. To add insult to injury i often can't last that long before that occurs even though there is minimal pleasurable feeling.

sometimes we have sex twice in a row and in those cases the second time I have virtually no feeling of pleasure from the act, sometimes to the point of actually losing the erection because it literally feels like there is nothing down there. Generally in order to 'go' the second time i have to really work hard and when i do, it usually doesn't feel like anything. its basically like i start to finally get a bit of pleasurable feeling and then i have the same non-orgasmic ejaculation. Sometimes what it feels like is that feeling when you urinate the next morning after having had sex the night before. Usually there is a sort of shiver down my spine but that is it. However, sometimes it actually feels pretty good and very rarely it feels very good.

I have had only one moment where being inside my wife felt 'amazing'. it was probably about 4 years ago and the feeling occurred almost immediately after i had ejaculated. For a brief moment, the feeling of being inside was just incredible. other than that moment, i would never even describe the feeling of being inside as particularly pleasurable.

oral sex is usually better in the sense that it often feels better while in progress but what happens at the end is that it basically literally stops feeling good moments before ejaculation and then the same sort of ejaculation without pleasure. Rarely it does feel good all the way through and i actually have an orgasm.

What's weird is that if my wife just uses her hand on me, then that typically feels good all the way and i have an orgasm (not so if i were to do it solo - generally if i were to just masturbate it would feel pretty good until shortly before ejaculation with no pleasure). The other thing that works pretty regularly is boob-jobs (for lack of a better terminology) where we put a bunch of lubricant on em.

I've also noticed a significant difference with the quantity & velocity of the semen/ejaculate when i have an actual orgasm vs. when i don't. (much more material and shooting much further in the first case).

I bought Jack's program over a year ago because I wanted to have pleasurable sex. i have tried the protocol a couple of times but to be honest I've never given it a real go mainly because what i want is for sex to feel good & to have orgasms, not to have solo experiences.

anyone heard of this/any idea what the problem is? Any ideas at all what the issue could be?

do you think using the Protocol would help it?

FYI i did talk to my doctor at one point - they did blood work, measured testosterone etc. all was normal. he sent me to a wiener specialist who basically didn't do much but said it all looked normal, normal blood flow etc. In other words don't have any weird physical problem.
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Old 21st April 2009, 03:45
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Default Re: problem: ejaculating without orgasm

Maybe there's an unresolved emotional furball linking around? Maybe it's not a physical problem and a psychological one?

In my experience the KSMO method is a process of self learning. You're not going to suddenly see a dramatic increase in this method. It takes time to rewire your body to feeling arousal differently.

My 2c.

Hopefully an adept or someone else here has some more insight to your problem but I do hope you get it resolved.
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Old 23rd May 2009, 16:17
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Default Re: problem: ejaculating without orgasm

Hi January,

I experience ejaculations without orgasms now and then too. It sucks. I feel that in my case it might have something to do with me not being very balanced and having other sex-related issues as well (lots of frustration etc.)...
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Old 25th May 2009, 22:45
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Default Re: problem: ejaculating without orgasm

Sounds as though the issue may be psychological. However maybe your
physician could give you a look over just to make sure there's nothing
underlying that can be easily treated.
You're lucky to have a wife willing to try and pleasure you in all
those different ways.
From experience too much porn paradoxically takes away the pleasure
for me.
Ksmo complements any sexual practice and I would keep working at it if
you have the time and patience.
Cheers
A
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Old 25th May 2009, 23:41
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January, Please send me an email telling me what city you live in or near (and state or province) - even if outside the U.S.

Please put from January in the Subject line. Thanks!

Meanwhile use our Google Site search tool (be sure you're logged in to the Forum first) and put "premature ejaculation" in double quotes. There you'll find additional reading posted by a number of people addressing this situation.

And like I said, after I receive that email from you, I'll reply to it and also post a reply here.

Meanwhile, from a between the ears i.e. psycho-physiological perspective, premature ejaculation is often related to anxiety - especially what is referred to as performance anxiety.

I personally dislike the term performance associated with sexuality or sexual behavior, but that's the common expression.

Getting comfortable with the solo practice of the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol™ may help yourself create a time and space for you that is separate from some anxieties you are quite likely to feel, given your frustrating history with this condition, when making love with your wife.

Likewise, there may be other issues from your past that are impacting this alert message from your physical self.

Further, sort of trying the Protocol once or twice is not gonna begin to give you a clue as to the potential benefits this practice when conducted as I specify step by step in the pdf and in the training seminars may be able to offer you.

Premature ejaculation is a symptom that has both mechanical and psychological and emotional components to it.

The psychological, emotional, and historic components of your situation likewise indicate that some psychological assistance by someone thoroughly trained and professionally credentialled in addressing specifically sexual issues is also strongly indicated, and via email I may be able to help you connect with someone like that.

I am very sorry for the pain and frustration that this symptom is causing you and your beloved!

Please follow each of the steps I have suggested to you! That includes practice for 20 minutes at least two or three times per week with no expectations of a magic quick fix, AND posting an .mp3 sample of your Key Sound™ articulation to the PRIVATE area of this Forum as described in the step by step materials I have provided to you.

And please do continue to post here, every time you take one of these steps, be it a practice session, or posting your sound sample, etc.

And of course you are ALWAYS welcome to contact me directly by email or phone (which I virtually always provide in reply emails).

The approach of the method I teach is how to learn to enjoy ORGASM withOUT ejaculation and to learn that this actually IS possible, and once you HAVE learned that skill, then you are likely to have much better ability to then combine some of those orgasmic rushes with ejaculation, and naturally, to take this newly learned skill into intercourse with your beloved.

Please send me that email I've requested, and DO practice consistently using the methods I have shared with you, that have been in constant refinement since 1991.

Wishing you and your Belove all the very best that life has to offer,

Jack

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