Hello to you all.

I've bought the introduction seminary about two weeks ago. So far, the only thing I can say is that this whole protocol is for real.

After only two weeks, I get warm sensations, waves, echoes, all of it. No MMOs so far but when the ride is so much fun, why should I care where it's going to lead me?? I just enjoy everything, and getting echoes at the office is really sweet! This makes work a lot more enjoyable .

I am a dad of two young children, the youngest being only four months old, and even though I can fully understand the reasons why this is happening, I can only say that our love life has been really quiet for the last year or so, my wife and I. So I wanted to put all the free time I get when everybody's sleeping to good use, and educate myself about how I could bring some spice and novelty into our relationship once her life will be back to normal, with decent nights of sleep and more free time as our kids will grow older. I can't wait to share this with her.

Anyway, I still have my KS recording under review, so I can only hope that it's going to get better and better as my KS improves in efficiency...

Many thanks to you for sharing this with us all...

Epicurien

Hi Epicurien,

Nice to hear from you, and welcome to the forum if this is your first post here.

>So far, the only thing I can say is that this whole protocol is for real.<

Yes, it works - and how! It's great that it's beginning to work for you, too.

>After only two weeks, I get warm sensations, waves, echoes, all of it.<

Quick results and a good start. You're on track!

>No MMOs so far but when the ride is so much fun, why should I care where it's going to lead me??<

Be patient and the MMOs will arrive eventually - and you'll have a great deal of fun on the way, too.

>I just enjoy everything, and getting echoes at the office is really sweet! This makes work a lot more enjoyable .<

Agreed! Whatever your job - whether you are sitting in front of your PC in the office doing a re-boot, just about to launch an aircraft carrier, or just pushing forward the four throttles for take-off - a nice little orgasm can be very enjoyable.

Enjoy the ride. And keep writing.

Mog

Thank you mog for your support, I appreciate it.

Actually, there are a few things that I wonder about.

1- So far, the best sensations I've had while practicing my KS and doing regular sessions came in with nipple stimulation. I do get echoes and waves of pleasure between sessions, but it is necessary for me to touch my nipples to get the best sensations. And the funniest part is that a few months ago, before my first session with Alana (Hypnaerosession CD from the Aneros site), I didn't even know that my nipples could provide such pleasure. An interesting discovery nonetheless but I'm a bit worried that this is compromising my success with MMOs.

2- I have to admit that the most intense sessions I've had since I started this have been under the influence of marijuana. I hope that this does not jeopardize my results with the KS, but what do you guys think about this?

3- When exactly can you increase the number of sessions for a week? I really get turned on while doing the KS sometimes, and would like to keep going, however, it is recommended in the seminar not to exceed 20-minute long sessions three times a week. When does one is allowed to increase that and intensify the level of pleasure they're at?

That's about it for today, I'm looking forward to read your comments.

I think you're supposed to lay off the stimulation until you experience MMOs, but I'd have to look at the protocol to be sure. If you enjoy it though, it's hard to say stop enjoying yourself. Because of this I'm not really sure I can give any advice there because I'm just a newbie myself. All I can say is stick to whatever the protocol says, Jack knows what he's doing


As for the pot thing..as fun as it may be, it's probably better to practice without. I mean, you can't expect to have this lifelong skill with you ALONG with the marijuana wherever you go. For example on a plane or government setting. But I'm not really sure if it would ruin any of your sessions or anything like that. Another iffy question for me.

As for the number of sessions...the reason it's limited to 20 min/3 days a week is so that you can see the difference the relaxing and stuff makes echoes on the days you AREN'T doing KSMO. Personally, I won't agree to the whole 20 minutes thing because I can't really keep an active track on time and still remain completely relaxed. I will, however, abide by the 3 days a week thing so I can see echoes on the day in between.

From a newbie's perspective, to me it sounds like you're using too much stimulation and not enough relaxation. KSMO is about letting the orgasms come to you, not 'making' them happen.

I hope this helps and I'm on the right track too.

Also, uhh, a question if you don't mind...how many total sessions have you had?

I don't mind your question at all CRUNKYEAH, i've been practicing for almost three weeks, doing 20-minute sessions 3 times a week with a day-off between each.

I think you may be right with the relaxation thing. I'll be honest, I may be doing too much stimulation although I do not feel pressured in any way to get to orgasm. I just really like the sensations it provides me, to my own disbelief, I'm almost getting tired of standard masturbation because the level of pleasure is not quite the same. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy ejaculation and the pleasure I get while trying to get there, and it is better than what it was before I started with the KSMO practice, but it is not near as intense as what I get when sticking to doing key sounds and touching my hot spots.

As for the pot issue, I'm not always high while practicing, and still I get awesome results, but you're probably right by saying that I should leave the smoking aside while doing sessions to experience sensations in a natural state.

Oh by the way, the only hot spots that work for me so far are my nipples. I have not been successful with the other spots mentioned in the protocol, not that I haven't tried but I just get nothing out of them. Should I keep trying?

Anyway, thanks for your advices, and I apologize if my posts are a bit hard to read/understand, english isn't my first language. I hope that my words make sense, if not, please let me know.

Have a nice day

>.....I didn't even know that my nipples could provide such pleasure. An interesting discovery nonetheless but I'm a bit worried that this is compromising my success with MMOs.<

Yes - nipple orgasm was quite a revelation for me too!

I can't really, with honesty, advise anybody on the Protocol because I transgressed it all the time! But if you want the best progress I'm convinced of the importance of not overdoing stim during the learning phase. One thing I've learned is that overmuch stim gives lesser result (I think this is universal). Total relaxation together with minimal stim, according to Jack's Protocol, is the key when learning!

>I have to admit that the most intense sessions I've had since I started this have been under the influence of marijuana. I hope that this does not jeopardize my results with the KS, but what do you guys think about this?<

I've not done the M so I cannot comment. Although an occasional spot of Viagra works wonders for me I rarely use it and I never did on training days. Let your body and mind have free rein to accomplish their re-wiring.

>When exactly can you increase the number of sessions for a week? I really get turned on while doing the KS sometimes, and would like to keep going, however, it is recommended in the seminar not to exceed 20-minute long sessions three times a week. When does one is allowed to increase that and intensify the level of pleasure they're at?<

The Protocol is a set of guidelines only - not strict rules. I reckon that if you feel you are making good progress, which you seem to be, you should be your own judge. I see no harm in judiciously extending your session time. When you eventually become multi-orgasmic you can use your new skill to do whatever pleases you.

>Oh by the way, the only hot spots that work for me so far are my nipples. I have not been successful with the other spots mentioned in the protocol, not that I haven't tried but I just get nothing out of them. Should I keep trying?<

IMO - no. Don't try to hurry your progress. Eventually, as your re-wiring takes effect, you will find other trigger points around the body, some of them rather surprising! Be patient.

CRUNKY's advice, IMO, is extremely good and I second his observations.

Epi - your English is excellent.

Mog

To start, your English is really good Epic! If you don't mind me asking, where are you typing from?

Thanks mog ^^

I have a question for the hot spots you have too, Epic. How did you come to realize you can get lots of pleasure from your nipples? Was it from KSMO or a different method? I'm curious, because for me, my nipples don't feel any different than my arms or shoulders.

I'm sure in due time it will happen for me too, but I'm curious how it happened for you. Thanks

I'm from Quebec. My first language is french.

CRUNKYEAH: Let me answer your question of how I discovered that my nipples are a hot spot. I was an Aneros user who landed on this site by recommendation of many users that roamed on the Aneros forum. And at some point, before discovering KSMO and having little success with the toy itself, I bought the Hypnaerosession CD that rumel worked on (which I highly recommend to all Aneros users). And the nipple stimulation was part of the whole re-wiring process that so many folks talk about. So I tried. And it sure did wonders for me. But so far, I got better results with KSMO than with the Aneros.

Which brings me another question: If I want to share the KSMO with my wife, there's a few hot spots she doesn't have that are mentioned in the protocol, for example, the lower part of the penis . What could be the alternate hot spot for a women if there is any?

Hi Epicuiren,,

I can not speak as to what your wife's hot spots would be. I can give you a a few places that work for me. The ears, the breasts, the tops and inner thighs, feet, and when aroused- the buttocks. There are probably others-in places I myself am unable to reach.

I hope this helps some .

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I'm not a frequent poster, but I've been around for a little over a year and I wanted to comment on the nipple stim. I also heard about it from over at the Aneros forum and like many guys, it did nothing for me at first. Gradually though, I started to get pleasant tingles which, over time, developed into orgasmic sensations. Whether these are the "nipple orgasms" that I've heard them described as, or simply incredibly good feelings I'm not sure and really don't care at this point.

Regarding hot spots, I have had some great success with pressure on the perineum. By pressing firmly with 2 or 3 fingers and moving the pressure point very slowly it created some of the most intense pleasurable sensations I've experienced to date. I was unable to prevent my pelvis from automatically thrusting (not that I tried very hard to resist). This area, like the nipples, didn't suddenly burst forth with orgasmic bliss. It's something you have to work at a bit but again, it's well worth it. I'm also reasonably certain that the area might have similar effects for women.