Hi all,

Have been doing the KSMO protocol for some time and notice improvements here and there, so the practice is quite encouraging =).

I've been wondering about the basis behind the protocol lately (I'm an inquisitive person by nature). What effect does producing the sound have on the body? Is it the sound itself, or the physical movements that produce the sound the trigger for nervous system rewiring? Could it be a combination of both?

Does it have a spiritual basis? Or is it a purely physical phenomenon that, if taken far enough, leads to a state of ecstasy that is seems to/actually becomes spiritual?

Wonder whether anyone has insights into these questions =) If Jack could tell us how he came upon such a method, it'd be great too!

Thanks!

Hi Abe,

>I've been wondering about the basis behind the protocol lately (I'm an inquisitive person by nature). What effect does producing the sound have on the body? Is it the sound itself, or the physical movements that produce the sound the trigger for nervous system rewiring? Could it be a combination of both?<

I also have wondered much about that. I'm weak on the theory of multiple orgasm and have never been very good at keeping to The Protocol, but I have had plenty of results! And more amazing results than I feel I'm entitled to or had ever expected.

But as an adept I would just like to make a couple of observations:

You might, or might not yet be, familiar with the sensation of bodily vibration (the Buzz) that is sometimes associated with states of high erotic arousal. This seems to occur mainly throughout the torso but with a centre of concentration in the pelvic floor area. It has a curious low-frequency rasping quality with some harmonic content and sets up a kind of resonance in the torso which can strongly excite the various bits down there and cosset and build the general sensation of arousal.

Although this buzzing seems also to be associated with some other orgasmic practices it seems to me that the nature of this involuntary vibration has a lot in common with that produced within the Protocol by a well-produced Key Sound. It would not surprise me to learn that there is a linkage here.

As well as that, it might also be that, in time, after much repetition of the key sound in an orgasmic context it can, by association, promote arousal via the sub-conscious, perhaps in the same way that some audio arousal-generating tracks can.

Another phenomenon in my experience is, during phases of extreme arousal, I sometimes find myself vocalising entirely involuntarily a succession of key sounds at quite a loud volume. This surprises me because it can happen without any conscious prompting.

Finally, although the Key Sound has been crucial to my re-wiring process, now that has been completed I don't need it any more as a trigger. So I now rarely use it.

>Does it have a spiritual basis?<

No comment possible upon that - I'm an engineer!

Mog

Thanks for the reply =) I'm a scientist too so much of what you said makes sense.

You say that you no longer need to use the Key Sound to trigger off orgasmic sensations: how does that help with ejaculation control? Does triggering off orgasmic sensations release erotic energy thereby reducing the urge to ejaculate? If one wants to ejaculate, what does one do? Is it possible to control how the erotic energy is dissipated, i.e. through full body MOs or through ejaculation?

>You say that you no longer need to use the Key Sound to trigger off orgasmic sensations: how does that help with ejaculation control?<

Ejaculation "control" is not normally necessary in KSMO practice and, generally, should form no part of it. But if you mean unwanted or accidental ejaculation all I can say is that I've never had a problem with that whilst practicing the KSMO Protocol, possibly on account of my age, although I suppose it might happen with some young and excitable fellahs.

The arousal amplification and distribution around the body of erotic energy which results from successive key sound sequences should, with practice, eventually reach a level where explosive dry orgasm occurs. This together with the heightened erotic sensations that can occur immediately after that (The Ride) is the orgasmic objective - not ejaculation.

Your question could imply that you might be ejaculating accidentally during your KSMO practice - is that so?

>Does triggering off orgasmic sensations release erotic energy thereby reducing the urge to ejaculate?<

The KSMO practice simply by-passes the automatic ejaculative reflex (and allows the erotic energy to build to much higher levels before being released into dry orgasm).

Bu if you mean a global lowering of desire for ejaculative events, I think so, and certainly in my case that is true. The KSMO practice can release such protracted and hyperbolically erotic sensations that ordinary run-of-the-mill ejaculative events can seem utterly tame by comparison - hence a widely reported loss of interest. But, I've not heard of an acquired KSMO skill actually reducing one's ability to engage in other sexual activities - quite the opposite seems to be true.

>If one wants to ejaculate, what does one do? Is it possible to control how the erotic energy is dissipated, i.e. through full body MOs or through ejaculation?<

The Protocol should be practiced without any deliberate attempt to ejaculate, at least on the same day, so ejaculation by stimulation should not be sought.

But if you wish to ejaculate at any time during your KSMO sessions, there's no federal law against it (yet), and you might find that the resulting orgasm is considerably enhanced - but if that were to become a regular occurrence it would very probably slow down your progress in acquiring the KSMO skill.

I hope that helps.

Mog

Thanks for the reply Mog.

The reason I was asking the questions about ejaculation is because I am practising KMSO so that I can please my wife for longer periods of time. Certainly there may be times I want to ejaculate, so I was curious as to whether I can ejaculate when I want to.

hi abelian
I'm sure mog will have a better reply but I thought I'd reply to ur post if that's ok
I'm not aware that ksmo can be used after u get a full blown erection or even during penetrative intercourse
my assumptions so far are that the path to ksmo is largely non penile where as conventional ejaculation is penile
so I think the 2 are mutually exclusive in the same session but complement each other when performed separately
is that a narrow viewpoint? I'd be keen to hear from others as amazing new experiences are something I now expect routinely
cheers
A

Anerosmith and Abelian....To answer the question "I'm not aware that ksmo can be used after u get a full blown erection or even during penetrative intercourse my assumptions so far are that the path to ksmo is largely non penile where as conventional ejaculation is penile so I think the 2 are mutually exclusive in the same session but complement each other when performed separately"

I believe that KSMO FULLY compliments sexual intercourse- whether before or after an erection occurs.

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Thanks for ur reply.I am now really curious.I find that with an erection ongoing any penile stimulation would bring me close to an ejaculation and move off the ksmo protocol so to speak (though I have been fully rewired for a while).
Cheers
A

Hi again, anerosmith,

>I believe that KSMO FULLY compliments sexual intercourse- whether before or after an erection occurs.<

I agree with that view from Laly - my own experience aligns with it.

>I am now really curious.<

If I might re-assert my own personal take on the discussion:-

Whilst in the process of acquiring the KSMO multi-orgasmic skill your KSMO training sessions should follow the Protocol and be separated at least day-by-day from ejaculatory events if the fastest and most effective progress towards dry multiples is desired.

But after one has become multi-orgasmic via the KSMO training the KSMO Protocol has delivered the goods and you are then free to go your own way. You can continue to do KSMO-based sessions or you can ejaculate 24/7 if you want! - or you can mix and match entirely as you wish - you won't lose your KSMO skill!

You will very probably find that every other type of sexual practice is greatly enhanced by the acquisition of the KSMO skill. In my case I find that the key sound is no longer required in my multiples sessions - with some relaxation the orgasms begin to flow entirely spontaneously - I just let them happen!.

Does that clarify anything?

Mog

Mog
Thanks for your reply.It was your guidance that helped me reach the zone and I have never looked back.
Currently my KSMO sessions occur with solo practice and do not involve penile stimulation.But I agree wholeheartedly that my ejaculatory sessions are much more intense since KSMO.

My real curiosity is whether you can use the KSMO (or other) trigger (I too no longer need to use the sound) to go on a non ejaculatory MMO path while physically in the act of penetrative union with a partner.
I am male and my partner is my wife.
Cheers
A