Hi everyone
OK, I get that it’s not necessary to have an erection to experience multiple orgasms using the Key Sound approach (or so I gather ‘cos I’m not there yet!) but I’d like to hang on to my ability (which is rather less strong than it was) to have one when I’m in the mood. The KS practising is really pleasurable and I feel it meets my desire for pleasure without my erection reflex being used. I guess that those body reflexes we use less tend to get weaker, and so I’m worried that my ability to have an erection is being compromised as I enjoy in pleasurable but erection-free MMO experiences. Should I be “practising” sex or masturbation alongside the KS protocol to keep my erection ability working? I posted this question earlier this month as the second part of a post called “Practising with my wife, and erection query”, and had a nice reply from Laly on the first point but none of you guys commented on whether the erection reflex may be affected. I’d really appreciate your ideas, experts and fellow travellers!

THere are multple physiological pathways that appear to be being manipulated during the KSMO practice. The key from my experience is that pleasure and erection and not necessarily related. I've been practicing the KSMO for almost a year and a half and have never had an erection during the practice. It just isn't intrinsically erotic enough for me. I would have to get wrapped up in some fantasy for it to occur and the practice is too distracting too allow for that. Despite this, whenever erotic stimulation is present, an erection occurs easily. THe purpose of the exercise isn't essentially sexual. It increases genital sensitivity; it increases sensitivity of other areas; it prolongs and deepens pleasure. THis results from the rewiring of the nervous system and the sexual responses. You will find that the only things that diminish the erection response are unfortunate vascular, neurological, psychological or hormonal issues. I have found that my libido is up for action for more than it has in decades. So enjoy the process. Relax.

Hi again Kando,

>........so I’m worried that my ability to have an erection is being compromised.......<

I think you can put that worry aside!

I've been KSMOing for about five years and if my experience is anything remotely typical I can say that you will not find that your KSMO practice compromises any other sexual activity that you might wish to embark upon. I've found precisely the reverse to be true and I expect you will find the same.

>Should I be “practising” sex or masturbation alongside the KS protocol to keep my erection ability working?<

Not neccessary - just do whatever takes your fancy. But do your KSMO practice and any ejaculatory activities on separate days.

Good luck,

Mog

Hi kando, tandello and sir mog!

kando, I agree with tandello and mog but I do suffer from a drug induced erectile dysfunction. My wife actually prefers me semi-soft, but able to give her the energy jolts, for significant lengths of time in our mutual prostate practice.

Don't worry! Find out how to use this as an advantage, as well as ways to overcome it when you want to. KSMO practice should not lead to any loss of capability. Erections are not part of any orgasmic rewiring. They (or an undue focus on them) can actually be a distraction and inhibit/slow the rewiring.

If ED is an issue for you, here is a recent post on mine on the topic on the Aneros Forum:

<<<I have medication induced ED. I have to take a Beta-blocker drug and my cardiologist, when I asked about this problem, says all Beta-blockers can cause ED.

Prostate stimulation definitely assists with this problem, as my urologist found out when he was poking around on my prostate too long, and suddenly something else was too long, despite my mental effort to prevent it!

Yes, helping to mitigate the ED was part of my early interest in Aneros, along with BPH therapy, and OH YEA!!! something about orgasmic voyaging possibilities... ...because I have been a prostate massager/stimulator solo since my teens, and knew what that could do for an erection up to a point.

insearchofme, you also might want to recommend to your friend David and Ellen Ramsdale's book Sexual Energy Ecstasy and the sexual energetics techniques. Once a guy is focused on the orgasmic energy flows and being able to call up and direct them, erections, as they are in our Aneros rewiring phase, can be somewhat beside the point.

I found that a semi-erection, what I've called in other posts here a "leatherman", is equally effective for Super-T-ing to fabulous fluid finishes, AND MORE IMPORTANT, preferred by mrs. a (and others research confirms, other women) for gentle G-spot focused intercourse, and still times, and penile energy jolts to your partner!!!, that can go on for a couple of hours... ...all with the sustaining stimulus of my Eupho while Super-O-ing and Calms Seas-ing... Mrs. a also likes the feel for her if I give my prostate a "bump" gently with a voluntary anal/rectal contraction.

Yes, Aneros can be a great boost in getting beyond ED as a barrier/worry in sexual performance, if the male is open to a wider variety of techniques and erectile states. The truly powerful phallus does not have to be a rock hard erection all the time, or even most of the time, in actual orgasmic voyaging and multiple deliveries. Hallelujah!!!

all the best orgasmic energetics to all >>>

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Hi Artform, tandello and Mog (perhaps Sir Mog!)
Thanks so much for your reassurance in these great posts. I'll continue to do and enjoy the KSMO practice with an easier mind now. Artform, there are several ideas I'd like to hear more about if you've got the time. (I haven't learned how to quote bits of previous post so I'll just do it the old fashioned way.)

You said:- "Essentially you can develop the ability to choose whether to activate the erection/ejaculation system while using KS and or an Aneros in triggering, amplifying or directing the orgasmic energies, solo or with your wife. I am happy to discuss this further with you here or on the other recent thread."

This sounds as if it would be a great skill to master. Do you just mean I will get it using the KSMO approach? Or, if it's different from this, please elaborate on what you can manage to do, and how you got there. I would like to enjoy both solo and
with my wife.

"Have you used your Aneros and Super-T-ing with your wife at all?"

I haven't used the aneros since I started KSMO. Maybe I will give it another try, but to be honest I find the business of cleaning and lubeing rather a nuisance. I don't think I ever had an erection with the aneros in and in fact it seems to be difficult to give myself one with it in even by direct stimulation, so I haven't introduced it into lovemaking with my wife. Do you think it adds something the KSMO approach doesn't? And what is Super-T-ing? (I've read what Super-O-ing is, and hope to enjoy that experience one day). I'd like to know more about Super-T-ing and how you do it. The multiples site search gave no hits.

"My wife actually prefers me semi-soft, but able to give her the energy jolts, for significant lengths of time in our mutual prostate practice."

Sounds fun! I think my partner would enjoy some penile energy jolts! How do you (both) use your penis, or should I say "leatherman", when it's rather soft, or completely soft? What positions are good?

So many questions! Thanks in advance for any advice or thoughts.
Kando

Hi Kando,

Just a quick one:

>I'd like to know more about Super-T-ing and how you do it.<

Mmmm.....that puzzled me, too!

It's a term that has currency on the Aneros forum more than here.

It simply means an enhanced traditional masturbatory orgasm. Presumably the term applies whether or not an Aneros is used.

I, and I think adepts with the Aneros, find that an inserted Aneros considerably enhances the Super-T event.

But the Super-T is equally valid with a pure KSMO practice.

Mog.