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Old 12th August 2008, 10:12
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Very sage advice from Grandmaster Mog and fellow Adepts!

By the way the olfactory sensations, etc. are known as Synesthesia.

You can use that keyword in our Google site search tool to come up with other discussions on this topic.

You are really getting well along the trial* now, my friend... Congratulations!
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*lol that was a 2:15 AM "slip" but it's valid so I left it in... This is a Trail of an Adventure and a Trial at times. And as the KSMOT crew so frequently remind us all... well worth it!

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Hmmm..lotta great advice here I see... yeah I agree with Canuck on the range of feelings and body awakenings with advancement of sessions.

I have read a few of Mog's posts where his sessions sometimes run for 2 or 3 hours at a stretch. I myself do not set my mind to a time limit as it puts a sort of tension to the session BEFORE I ever begin. I start out some of my sessions with some relaxing Reiki music - to get the energy flowing and my body to relax and let go of tension and the day's stresses.
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Hi Even,

>Have anyone else experienced these “body shakings”? And do they tend to go away on their own after one becomes more experienced in the training, and learns to relax a bit more?<

Making progress down the KSMO trail one can encounter so many different and unexpected phenomena especially during the re-wiring process. Any or all of the body and senses can be affected. I first encountered shiverings and shakings of torso and limbs, and then later, mild convulsions, feelings of extreme heat in arms and fingers, numbness in the limbs, feelings of floating over the bed, feelings of a heavy weight pressing me down, the well-known bodily "buzz" or humming vibration, ringing in the ears, areas on the body of intense orgasmic sensation, strange visual and virtual effects in the vision, even the sense of smell can be affected! The occasional "Terror at the Gates" can be temporarily alarming when it happens.

Some of these persist and have grown even more powerful; some have gone away completely. I rarely have a terror nowadays and the visual and olfactory effects have mostly gone. These various effects can come and go but, overall, those that persist tend to meld and blend together and grow the general acute orgasmic result.

I would let these manifestations take their own course, relax and don't fret over them - enjoy them in the knowledge that something good is happening to you

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Thanks for sharing your experiences regarding these “body shakings”! I will follow your advice, and try to appreciate these manifestations instead of fighting them away.
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Very sage advice from Grandmaster Mog and fellow Adepts!

By the way the olfactory sensations, etc. are known as Synesthesia.

You can use that keyword in our Google site search tool to come up with other discussions on this topic.

You are really getting well along the trial* now, my friend... Congratulations!
Jack


*lol that was a 2:15 AM "slip" but it's valid so I left it in... This is a Trail of an Adventure and a Trial at times. And as the KSMOT crew so frequently remind us all... well worth it!
Thanks, and I really appreciate your feedback along my trail (trial)
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Hmmm..lotta great advice here I see... yeah I agree with Canuck on the range of feelings and body awakenings with advancement of sessions.

I have read a few of Mog's posts where his sessions sometimes run for 2 or 3 hours at a stretch. I myself do not set my mind to a time limit as it puts a sort of tension to the session BEFORE I ever begin. I start out some of my sessions with some relaxing Reiki music - to get the energy flowing and my body to relax and let go of tension and the day's stresses.
Great tip there. I followed your advice on my last session, and it seems to work pretty well!

I've had a few decent sessions the last few days. But today, I had the best session so far in this adventure! I started off with the KS for 5-10 minutes, which resulted in some serious body shakings in my hands and some spasms in my foot. I then decided to try to relax a bit more. The result of that action was that good feeling got more concentrated in my stomach. And I also noticed that my stomach contracted after each KS. And as I did more sounds, my stomach contracted even more. Up to a point where my abs got really rock-hard, and it was really difficult to breathe fully! I could only take in small shallow breaths at this point. The experience was very delightful, but also a bit overwhelming.

My first reaction at that point, was: "Am I just making these stomach-contractions myself?" I.e.: a sort of a placebo-effect? But I'm now 100% convinced that these contractions happened because of an automatic response, and not something I'm just making up on my own.

After that, I decided to get out of my bed to inhale some air. I'm also noticing that I'm still sore in my abs, even a half an hour after this session. I also followed Laly’s advice regarding not to set any time limit. Her advice seems to work well, and this session ended after about 27 minutes.
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Old 15th August 2008, 00:53
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Great tip there. I followed your advice on my last session, and it seems to work pretty well!

I've had a few decent sessions the last few days. But today, I had the best session so far in this adventure! I started off with the KS for 5-10 minutes, which resulted in some serious body shakings in my hands and some spasms in my foot. I then decided to try to relax a bit more. The result of that action was that good feeling got more concentrated in my stomach. And I also noticed that my stomach contracted after each KS. And as I did more sounds, my stomach contracted even more. Up to a point where my abs got really rock-hard, and it was really difficult to breathe fully! I could only take in small shallow breaths at this point. The experience was very delightful, but also a bit overwhelmin.


My first reaction at that point, was: "Am I just making these stomach-contractions myself?" I.e.: a sort of a placebo-effect? But I'm now 100% convinced that these contractions happened because of an automatic response, and not something I'm just making up on my own.

After that, I decided to get out of my bed to inhale some air. I'm also noticing that I'm still sore in my abs, even a half an hour after this session. I also followed Laly’s advice regarding not to set any time limit. Her advice seems to work well, and this session ended after about 27 minutes.

That's awesome to hear even....I read this and a huge smile broke out on my face and I wept haapy tears for you.

Yeah I get aches too from some of my body shakig and full body orgasms as well. And thanks for taking my advice on not stressing on the time frame of practice...I myself ...like you said about 5 minutes into KS practice am trembling and weeping bliss tears and feeling like am floating , go hot and cold like Mog reported, and even broke out all over with goosebumps... I think the best orgasms of mine are ones that hit my brain and trigger color patterns or shoot from the brain down to my heart - thus triggering even more heartgasms.



The pdf file is NOT a strict rule following- but a guideline. The 20 min three times a week is a safe guideline for people beginning this wonderous journey ...and the day off in between is to give that person's body a chance to "catch up" to the "re-wiiring" process that Mog refers to. The 20 minutes is so that the person doesn't get so caught up in the "moment" that he or she decides to "go for it" by ending the session with a ejaculatory orgasm. Or that at the most, someone could get frustrated and feel that "nothing" good was felt from that session. Things that Jack likes to refer to as "mind noise".

Feel free to use the Google search tool at the top and type in "mind noise".
Keep up the great results !!
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Old forum threads of mine :
http://tiny.cc/KOx0x - shy newbie
http://tiny.cc/mt9sd - letting go of anger
http://tiny.cc/wR7Hb - multiple orgasm success-insight

I read this in a book today "You never know how much courage you have until you face your greatest fears head on".
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That's awesome to hear even....I read this and a huge smile broke out on my face and I wept haapy tears for you.

Yeah I get aches too from some of my body shakig and full body orgasms as well. And thanks for taking my advice on not stressing on the time frame of practice...I myself ...like you said about 5 minutes into KS practice am trembling and weeping bliss tears and feeling like am floating , go hot and cold like Mog reported, and even broke out all over with goosebumps... I think the best orgasms of mine are ones that hit my brain and trigger color patterns or shoot from the brain down to my heart - thus triggering even more heartgasms.



The pdf file is NOT a strict rule following- but a guideline. The 20 min three times a week is a safe guideline for people beginning this wonderous journey ...and the day off in between is to give that person's body a chance to "catch up" to the "re-wiiring" process that Mog refers to. The 20 minutes is so that the person doesn't get so caught up in the "moment" that he or she decides to "go for it" by ending the session with a ejaculatory orgasm. Or that at the most, someone could get frustrated and feel that "nothing" good was felt from that session. Things that Jack likes to refer to as "mind noise".

Feel free to use the Google search tool at the top and type in "mind noise".
Keep up the great results !!
Thanks again for sharing your experiences and tips!

Today I had an even more amazing session, and thus the most intensive one so far! Already 5 minutes into the session I started to experience these stomach-contractions again. But this time it was even more intense than in any of my previous sessions. As last time, it was incredibly difficult to inhale air because of the intensity I was experiencing.

Up to this point, I had been using the keysound for about every other breath. But as I went further into the session, the intensity of the energy actually became so high that I almost couldn’t handle it. So I started to express the keysound for just every 10 breaths. I didn’t even need to use any stimulation this time.

I also noticed some new “side-effects” from the practice during the today’s session. I noticed that I started to sweat a lot, and started to breathe much heavier than usual. Actually, my breathing became just as heavy as it becomes just after a really intensive workout. Also a grin appeared on my face and the muscles in my eyes started to clamp together. These are all an exact replica of what I experience during an ordinary orgasm.

Today, I noticed stomach-contraction even after the session has ended! And sometimes I’m able to experience echo’s and stomach-contractions just by thinking about the last session I’ve had.
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Old 18th August 2008, 17:39
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And sometimes I’m able to experience echo’s and stomach-contractions just by thinking about the last session I’ve had.
Congratulations even! And VERY nice post Laly: You covered all essential training points in your reply!

Well done, y'all!

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>But as I went further into the session, the intensity of the energy actually became so high that I almost couldn’t handle it.<

You're making some rather wonderful progress there, even!

Learning how to generate these awesome orgasmic sensations is one part of the KSMO journey: another, and as important a part, is the growing of your tolerance of these extreme and mind-testing sensations. Fortunately, the two aspects track reasonably well and ratchet themselves forever upwards more-or-less together.

But you might find sometimes that one gets a bit ahead of the other. If so, don't let that be a cause for alarm. I'm sure you will find that as you progress and experience the growing orgasmic power you will be able to readily handle all that you discover without discomfort.

Keep up the good work!

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Even, likewise, very sage long-experience-based comments from the Grandmaster OMG Mog himself!
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Who is this Grandmaster OMG Mog fellah?
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I've often wondered that myself

He's certainly a marvel, clearly a Master at this practice, and just enigmatic enough to be delightfully intriguing!
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