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Old 20th January 2008, 11:50
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Default Ejaculation - No relief?

So, I've been practicing regulary now. And all I can say is that is does have some effects. I mean, I haven't had fireworks yet, by I get a REALLY high arousal every session now. Feels like I'm going to explode soon if it increases more.

Anyway, today was my day between sessions, and I wanted to do some good old time standard masturbation. I was actually quite aroused before I began, I guess that's the echoes. Okay so I ended up ejaculating. But then what happened was a bit annoying. I didn't feel much of a relief. No release so to speak. I was almost as aroused as before I began masturbating.

So, I wanted to ask if anyone else has had the same kind of experience?
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Old 20th January 2008, 23:28
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So, I've been practicing regularly now. And all I can say is that is does have some effects. I mean, I haven't had fireworks yet, but I get a REALLY high arousal every session now. Feels like I'm going to explode soon if it increases more.
Kutso, If you're feeling the energy all pent up, remember to use the technique of allowing that energy to flow out through the sound.

I think one of the reasons you're having trouble calming down, even after ejaculation, is that perhaps you may not be allowing the spontaneous vocalization that naturally accompanies higher arousal - provided we don't block it.

What do you think?

Note that this spontaneous sound should also be as relaxed as possible. It's important to keep your throat relaxed so you don't strain your vocal chords.

Since it's spontaneous, it doesn't have to be a Key Sound™, just whatever sound wants to come out, but with a relaxed voice and throat to the extent possible. A lower sound (without straining!) is better because this too helps keep the vocal chords looser.

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Anyway, today was my day between sessions, and I wanted to do some good old time standard masturbation. I was actually quite aroused before I began, I guess that's the echoes.
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Okay so I ended up ejaculating. But then what happened was a bit annoying. I didn't feel much of a relief. No release so to speak. I was almost as aroused as before I began masturbating.
Again that could be because you may not have been allowing enough vocalization.

Please remember, the arousal has to go somewhere. So it's very important to allow the spontaneous sounds.

If you are with your wife when doing this, it is likewise very important to be sure to turn your head to the side so the sound does not hurt her ears!

An alternative to turning to the side when with a partner is, with her permission, to direct these sounds into her heart or other body area... This can serve to muffle the sound, yet your partner will feel the energy and that can be very arousing for her.

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So, I wanted to ask if anyone else has had the same kind of experience?
It is not uncommon!

Likewise, after ejaculating, for example, if you feel more aroused than feels good to you, take a shower or bath that may be slightly cooler than is typical - don't get a chill though!

For some people a warmer bath or shower can have a similar calming and grounding effect, that is, it helps this arousal energy dissipate.

Likewise if you're feeling frustrated or upset about this, then it's a good idea to take a few days or even a week off of active practice.

That is, if high arousal is bothering you, take a break from doing activities that are designed to elevate arousal - for example the 20 minute Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol™ practice sessions.

Perhaps replace them for a while with meditation, Tai Chi, or some other calming practice.

I hope these suggestions are helpful, and that you'll keep us posted as to how things are going for you.

Wishing you and her all the very best,
Jack
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Old 21st January 2008, 19:07
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Default Re: Ejaculation - No relief?

Thanks for your reply Jack.

I don't see the high arousal as a problem, rather I see it as a step in right direction. It was just that I was stunned that ejaculation didn't release it.

And about the spontaneous sounds. I do have those, but not very often. And I wonder, what can I do about it? I mean they are spontaneous sounds. If I try to do them more frequently they won't be very spontaneous at all, would they?
Tell me what you think.

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Old 21st January 2008, 20:50
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Thanks for your reply Jack.
You're quite welcome, Kutso!

I don't see the high arousal as a problem,
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rather I see it as a step in right direction.
I tend to agree.
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It was just that I was stunned that ejaculation didn't release it.
Ah,OK!

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And about the spontaneous sounds. I do have those, but not very often. And I wonder, what can I do about it? I mean they are spontaneous sounds. If I try to do them more frequently they won't be very spontaneous at all, would they?
Tell me what you think.

Kutso
My point is, that if you are feeling highly aroused to the point where you are starting to feel tension, what in English we refer to as feeling pent up, that is the time to express that pent up energy through sound.

It's fine to direct that energy through a Key Sound™, although that will of course tend to have the effect of further increasing arousal, or, if you are wanting to release the tension of the increased arousal, simply allow some other and more spontaneous sound.

I do however recommend that, to the extent that you have the option in that moment to affect the quality of the sound, that it be a lower and huskier sound somewhat similar to a Key Sound™, but without the arousal amplifying rolling quality in the middle of it such as has the Key Sound™.

The reason for this suggestion about tending towards the deeper and huskier sound range, is that by doing so, you help keep your vocal chords more relaxed while, in a seemingly paradoxical manner perhaps, allowing some of that pent-up arousal energy to flow through your vocal chords.

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Old 22nd January 2008, 18:06
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Okay. I understand now. Thank you very much!

Kutso
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Old 22nd January 2008, 21:03
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Arrow Re: Ejaculation - No relief? - Breathing pattern tips during high arousal

Gold Nugget - Breathing tips during high arousal and orgasm

I must qualify the following remarks as simply what has worked for me, and is based on a layman's understanding of breathing.

I am not a physician nor am I licensed or trained as a respiratory therapist or coach.

Perhaps coldsteel (who IS a physician and surgeon) will comment on this issue.

That said, you may also just expel breath without sound, but this too can be a little tricky as it's important not to lapse into a rapid panting pattern.

Instead, I recommend a pursed lips exhalation of expressing the energy.

By pursed lips, I mean to purse your lips somewhat as if you are going to whistle, and then exhale through those pursed lips, while consciously slowing down the exhalation to the extent that you can.

Here are a couple of links that can better explain this method:

Teaching pursed-lip breathing | Nursing | Find Articles at BNET.com
Breathing Techniques - Diaphragmatic Breathing - National Jewish Medical and Research Center
and for more info:
pursed lip exhalation - Google Search

This method creates a little bit of resistance to overly rapid expulsions of air, creating a mild back pressure in your lungs as you exhale.

It's my understanding from respiratory therapists that this maintains a better blood chemistry than if you are just constantly allowing a series of full and rapid expulsions of all of the air in your lungs. That can be hazardous, as well as making you feel dizzy and light-headed.
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