I'm another Aneros user venturing over to the KSMO way of doing things. I have listened to the whole seminar, and read through a few forum topics and blogs.

Tonight was my first session. I have done my best to follow Jack's Protocol as closely as possible, though I didn't monitor my session time and as a result, I believe I went over the 20 minute cutoff by a fair margin.

I began by laying on my waterbed and relaxing on my back with my knees bent. I spent at least 5 to 10 minutes just breathing and trying to become as relaxed as possible. Then I started making the Key Sound as described by Jack, attempting to keep my throat as relaxed as possible. I could feel the vibration go almost to my abdomen, so I hope I was doing it correctly.

I paid very close attention to any feelings throughout my body as I took the relaxing breaths in between each Key Sound. I believe I started to feel tingles on my arms and very briefly it seemed that a small area in and around my prostate started to feel good. I also noticed a sensation about 2 inches away from my anus toward my scrotum.

Most likely I spent at least 30 minutes, maybe more, on this session. I'm a little concerned and even a bit guilty that I didn't time it closer to the recommended length, but the tingles were enjoyable even if they were nowhere near orgasm-level in intensity and I admit I was hoping they would increase even further if I continued.

At no time during this session did I do any erotic stroking and I'm a little uncertain about when (or even if) I should begin doing so.

Overall, I'd say I had a very positive first experience. I'm really making an effort not to have any "mind noise." I have felt tingles like this before, but I choose to think it's a step in the right direction down this new path.

I'm also wondering what I should do with my Aneros. I have had the distinct impression I should leave it alone for at least a while, as I train myself to become aware of these new feelings.

Hi Justn_Otherguy! Welcome to our community.

Don't sweat it. One of the key discoveries to this process is learning how to relax into to the Key Sound and relaxing into the Echoes that ensue. Jack's recommendation for a 20 minute session is so that new users don't create the impression that this process is in any way like traditional tension-oriented stimulation.. that being: "The more I push the closer I get!" KSMOs are most enjoyed when the body is released from this tension and in complete relaxation. When you read through the chat transcripts you will often read of the 'fawn' analogy.

KSMOs/Echoes are like frightened fawns. If you chase them they will flee. You must let the come to you.


Release your guilt and enjoy every pleasurable sensation you experience. It is a VERY GOOD thing that you had such an experience with 'the tingles' in your first attempt at this. Congratulations! Give yourself a pat on the back. That said, don't discount your Echoes as they are the guide to whole body multiple orgasms that Jack speaks of (and many others attest to) in his seminars and in this forum. Trust that with dedication, relaxation and patience the orgasms will come to you when your body is ready to experience them. Enjoy the ride along the way!

From personal experience I know that as soon as I consciously acknowledge the feeling and attempt to will the intensity higher, they do the very opposite. Enjoy all pleasurable feelings and let them take you to your orgasms. With KSMOs your thinking mind wont take you there.. but you body will if you let it.

Do what you feel comfortable with. If you are experiencing Echoes without the gentle caress then play with that setting for a while until you feel that the gentle caress might be a fun thing to add.

Awesome man. It's always great to see people acknowledging discovery with their very first step. Keep it up!

Be careful of the thinking trap: I don't want to have any mind noise. The very focus of not wanting to have the noise IS noise in itself! Just relax and let go.

I have no experience with Aneros but have read a few times that it is wise to separate the two. You can either set the Aneros down as you begin to rewire your body with KSMO or at the very least use the Aneros on days that you dont practice the KSMO. I would recommend you search the forum for posts by Pan or Mog who both have had great experiences with Aneros and with KSMO.

Correct Key Sound articulation is essential to your discovery and growth within this process. Lucky for us we get to 'hope' no longer. Jack has set up a FREE Key Sound Validation service where you can upload recorded samples of your Key Sound. He will then let you know if you are articulating correctly or not.

You can find more information about this service here:

http://www.multiples.com/howtolastlo...play.php?f=661

Ok thats it from me. Congratulations and keep it up. You've made a fantastic start!

Lopez.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, Lopez!

Last night something interesting happened. I didn't sleep well and woke after maybe 5 or 6 hours. My eyelids were heavy but I didn't feel tired. Still, I laid there and attempted to go back to sleep.

I felt what I can only describe as a brief slow tingle on my left butt cheek that lasted a few seconds and was highly pleasurable. I've never felt anything like that, and it further cements my certainty that I'm unlocking something in my body.

Now I have to wait until tomorrow to have another session. I'm very interested in where this is going. The tough part is making myself wait. I know it's only a guideline, but I really want this to progress as rapidly as possible, and it's been months with my Aneros use with very little in the way of results. It wasn't much, but I feel like I've made more progress in one night than I have all this time with my Helix.

I'd still like to continue using it, but I'll wait and see how this goes for a while first.

Hi Justn-Welcome to the forum!

>I felt what I can only describe as a brief slow tingle on my left butt cheek that lasted a few seconds and was highly pleasurable.<

I know the feelings that come in the night! If your KSMO progress is anything like mine, being woken in the darkness hours in a pleasantly orgasmic whoosy state will happen quite often. If you have to depend on a good night’s sleep you might find that this becomes bit of a problem. It never bothered me because, being retired, I enjoy the luxury of living the full 24 hours. But the great positive thing about these feelings is that they're evidence that the KSMO is beginning to work for you – be very pleased!

>I've never felt anything like that, and it further cements my certainty that I'm unlocking something in my body.<

You’re precisely right there! Stand by to be entertained!

>…….but I really want this to progress as rapidly as possible…..<

Please be very careful with those thoughts. Take good notice of what Lopez and Jack say about avoiding any tendency to want to jolly things along. Positively do not will things to happen – that will seriously slow down progress. Do try to get your mind into a totally relaxed, blank and carefree condition during your initial sessions. Having, myself, a bit of a dim tendency I never found this much of a problem but I know that some find it hard to do. It becomes easier with practice.

>……..and it's been months with my Aneros use with very little in the way of results. It wasn't much, but I feel like I've made more progress in one night than I have all this time with my Helix.<

It's even possible that wishing for progress might have hampered your Helix adventures.

The KSMO and Aneros are totally different routes to the prized MMOs. But it seems to me that the KSMO is the more truly fundamental because it works directly upon the mind – where it really counts – without requiring any extraneous aid. The KSMO perfectly puts the mind to work. But the two practices still support each other and you will eventually find that your Aneros activities benefit hugely from a good basic KSMO skill.

There’s no need to stop your Aneros use. But while you are on the KSMO training wheel do keep your Aneros sessions completely separate, at least on different days.

Good luck, and tell us about your progress.

What Maslow (father of Humanistic Psychology who coined the concept of Peak Experience™) referred to as a higher-level gripe

I second that emotion!

I agree, 100%!

Please reframe this thought pattern to: I am progressing as rapidly as possible!

Very sage advice indeed!

Also known as the going for it trap!

One of the divine paradoxes of successful practice!

Likewise, advice most sage!

I think this assessment is spot on!

How about that!

My sentiments precisely! KSMO is more portable! Once you have it, you can't lose it!!!

I likewise concur...

Listen carefully to Grandmaster Mog!

Yes, please! You're right on track!

Session #2

This time I took a nice hot shower first to help with relaxing. Again I laid there for about 10 minutes, just breathing and trying to become as limp as possible.

Between each Key Sound I listened to my body, and again I felt a few tingles on my arms and some brief feel-good sensations around my prostate. I have tried to stay open minded and receptive, without trying to control anything, but that's harder than it sounds. Each time I feel a pleasurable sensation, I'm immediately seized with an impulse to make it grow or at least last longer. I know this is counterproductive but it feels like it's almost instinctive, like trying not to blink when something is flying toward your eye.

I also have a problem keeping my mind blank. Either random thoughts creep in or snippets of a song I've heard plays over and over in my head and it's an effort to remain "in the zone."


Afterward I just laid there and kept trying to feel my body without directing it and I felt more tingles. I tried not to have any expectations when I started this session, but in hindsight, this is about what I was expecting to feel. Whether my body gives me any delicious surprises like it did last night remains to be seen.

Again, there was no erotic stroking of any kind. I left my lower hand resting on my stomach the entire session, so that I could feel the vibrations as I made each Key Sound. My upper hand remained on the bed at my side.

2 questions:

1. Is the "on your back with knees bent" position necessary if you don't plan on any erotic stimulation other than articulating the Key Sound? I find it a bit awkward, especially on a waterbed. This time I propped a couple of pillows against each leg on the outside and that seemed to work ok, but am I safe laying on my back with legs extended?

2. I have discovered the wonderful world of nipple stimulation and I'm loathe to give it up. Does this fall into the category of avoiding erotic contact the day of a session? I'm purposely avoiding ejaculation because I want to keep my arousal up, but what about nipple play?

I'm a bad boy.

I decided to listen to the in depth training example to see how my articulation was compared to Jack's and I ended up going through the whole 20 minutes.

I sat in my chair in a relaxed state with my eyes closed and toward the end of the session (might as well call it Session #3) I could feel moments of increased tingling around my navel region.

This is addictive stuff, but I really think I need to practice some self restraint while I'm at it.

Good morning members and guests!

Not a whole lot to report today but once again something a little unusual happened after I went to bed.

I was laying on my side preparing to go to sleep but also trying to listen to my body and I felt a single strong muscle contraction in my abdomen, right around where I usually have that come-and-go pleasant sensation. At the time it wasn't feeling good, and there was no direct pleasure before, during or after this contraction.

I was a bit surprised at how strong it was. I have experienced muscle twitches before, but they're usually in my arms or legs and none have ever been as strong as this one. My whole body seemed to jerk.

I had another restless night's sleep as well.

Today I am firmly making myself stay away from KSMO even though I'd love to experiment some more. Easy does it!

Yes that's right, do take a day off between practice sessions, to give the Echo Effects™ an opportunity to develop on their own, without chasing after the sensations.

Keep in mind that one of the most common themes of breakthroughs to a new level in this practice is I wasn't expecting anything and then it happened!

I haven't really thought of myself as "chasing" the feelings. Each session I just try to lay there in an open, receptive state. It's pleasurable in and of itself but I can't keep from hoping that maybe this time IT will happen.