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Old 17th November 2007, 20:24
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Default Zeitgeist's Success Story

A definite Gold Nugget Success Story from today's chat:

zeitgeist>well:
zeitgeist>its been a few interesting weeks ksmo wise...
zeitgeist>I've made some progess with technique
zeitgeist>as per my recent post
zeitgeist>and, I've manged to increase the energy in my key sounds
zeitgeist>and
zeitgeist>calibrated more closely the way my body moves
zeitgeist>at the higher energy levels.
zeitgeist>I really 'get' the automatic nature of "...that expanding belly.." movement
zeitgeist>which generates a sort of delayed poring into my boots effect immediately after the key sound
zeitgeist>[pouring]
zeitgeist>and experiencing more local effects in my lower body cavity area
Jack>That's a very apt description, Z!
Jack>(the pouring into your boots!)
zeitgeist>as well as generating more all-over effects elsewhere
zeitgeist>:-)
zeitgeist>more metaphor :-))
Jack>That's great re: lower body cavity area. What are the local effects like?
zeitgeist>sort of a tickle - similar to that effect when...
zeitgeist>someone comes up close behind and speaks gently into one's ear
zeitgeist>and you are not quite expecting it
zeitgeist>one ca experience a sort of tickling effect...
zeitgeist>and these little tickling and indeed resonances from the key sound can
zeitgeist>be anywhere within the lower body along with the
Jack>I believe that's a great example of the classic literal meaning of a THRILL!
zeitgeist>rising energy ;-) elsewhere
zeitgeist>(chuckles)
zeitgeist>I've said before about the co-ordination of muscle movement...
zeitgeist>it seems like the whole front of my body wants to move in a certain way
zeitgeist>sets of muscles have sensual and sexual effects
Jack>Yes, do you allow your body to go ahead and move in the way it wants to?
zeitgeist>upper, lower intermediate all seem to have their own rhythm
Jack>Yes, indeed they do!
zeitgeist>YES! I try and 'ride' the movements/breaths/{x}
zeitgeist>/energy(ies)
Jack>Excellent!!!
zeitgeist>and there is a sort of coordination to maximise the effects which
Laly><grins
zeitgeist>allowed me to discover the expanding nature which
zeitgeist>up til now has not been apparent...
Jack>You are riding the kundalini serpent! Yeee haaaa!!!
Jack>Ride'im, buckaroo!!!
zeitgeist>AND I suspect that's down to an increase in KS volume conmensurate with the rising energy...
zeitgeist>interestingly...
Jack>Yes, very important point not to force the Key Sound to be louder, but equally important to
PoohBear>
Jack>ALLOW the Key Sound - and other spontaneous sounds - to become louder as you feel more energy flowing through you.
zeitgeist>if one disprupts the energy etc... the pattern seems to dissipate into eddies which go their own way
Laly>(hi poohbear)
Jack>Like the song says: Express yourself!
zeitgeist>focus seems to be the word..
zeitgeist>and without forcing or moulding
Jack>(Warm welcome back, Poohbear!)
zeitgeist>to try and allow the energy to synergise (ie to coalesce)
zeitgeist>into a whole (no pun intended!!)
Jack>Yeah that's very important, Z, about not forcing or molding as you say... rather... ALLOWING...
Jack>Yes you see we both typed ALLOWING!
Jack>LOL.
zeitgeist>YES!
zeitgeist>LOL
zeitgeist>getting in tune with the {pattern}
zeitgeist>experience
Jack>Wow!!! How is this new opening impacting you emotionally?
zeitgeist>interestingly I'm also getting
zeitgeist>echo effect between echo effects viz:
Jack>Yes I really like that tuning metaphor - getting in tune!
Jack>Wow re: between!
zeitgeist>if something happens in my legs I might get an echo of that in my scalp
Jack>Truly a Grand Awakening!!!
zeitgeist>Emotionally: I like to think of my core state as a sort of calm and
PoohBear>/Laly Hi, again.
zeitgeist>also a gathering of
zeitgeist>anticipation - I might even get excited!
zeitgeist>One cool effect I've written about is
zeitgeist>that feeling at the back og the neck - but all over
zeitgeist>of
zeitgeist>when listing to some favourite music
zeitgeist>One great thing is that these effects can be called upon at any time
zeitgeist>just by breathing or even thinking about them.
zeitgeist>This calls for
zeitgeist>some restraint in public...
zeitgeist>in terms of self-control
Jack>Definitely a higher level gripe - but true - and no joke!
zeitgeist>I'm good in creating a boundary within a private space
Jack>It is NOT appropriate to willfully splash this energy around in public
zeitgeist>That certainly IS a higher level gripe!
Jack>which is a condition of lack of informed, mutual consent.
zeitgeist>Agreed; as you say - onlly between consenting adults
zeitgeist>is appropriate.
Jack>Re: boundary within private space. Yes Z, I trust that with you and really appreciate that about you.
zeitgeist>TY....
zeitgeist>I felt it as taking personal responsibility for my..
Jack>And I LOVE that you are REALLY OPENING and ALLOWING yourself to feel the power of this sensual opening of that natural undulating energy!
zeitgeist>energy and influence
Jack>That is why the Eastern traditions refer to it as a serpent - the kundalini serpent.
zeitgeist>YEAH I'm in the P O W E R phase al'right!
Jack>Yes VERY well said about your taking personal responsibility for your energy and influence!
zeitgeist>It's still growing..
Jack>RE: power phase YEAH Brother, you ARE!!!
zeitgeist>no rush...
zeitgeist>just enjoying that ride
zeitgeist>like a sundown as a prelude to a moon eclipse
Jack>no rush (as in no hurry) just the spontaneous rushes of energy
zeitgeist>yeah; spontaneity is a goood word!
Jack>Oh that's a lovely simile re: sundown prelude to a CELESTIAL event!
zeitgeist>dont' rush the rushes!
Jack>Lol exactly!
Jack>Just ALLOW them!
zeitgeist>TY..
zeitgeist>to creep up on one..
zeitgeist>to whisper in the ear...
Jack>You have really allowed the Opening of the Gates of the Thousandfold Pleasures, Z!
zeitgeist>so much sensitivity in power...
zeitgeist>there's a thought..
zeitgeist>I'm on my WAY.. :-)
Jack>re: whisper in the ear... the whispering of your INNER LOVER.
zeitgeist>nice!
Jack>Yeah Z, you are definitely on your WAY and IN your Way!
Jack>In THE Way of Being...
zeitgeist>well, Ive hogged the mic for a while...
zeitgeist>yeah!
Jack>Ah no worries there, mate!
Laly>(getting shivers just thinking of that Z )
Jack>re: the mic.
zeitgeist>YW..
Jack>Woo Hoooo Zed!
zeitgeist>I guess the next step is
zeitgeist>to just continue to match the energy and key sound more and
zeitgeist>keep that movement in sync
zeitgeist>though even more allowing :-)
zeitgeist>.
zeitgeist>Wooo hoo indeed!
Jack>Well at this stage I wouldn't worry too much about trying to match stuff, etc. Just ENJOY THE RIDE! Just ALLOW the energy to flow as it will - IT will teach you... you can really let go and ENJOY... IN-JOY!
Jack>Whew what a testimony, Brother!
zeitgeist>sure ... fun rather than analysis!
Jack>My heartfelt CONGRATULATIONS to you!
zeitgeist>yes, I'm really pleased with my journey
zeitgeist>ty Jack!!!!
Jack>Yeah Z re: analysis - just enjoy these luscious fruits!
Jack> You are VERY welcome, my friend!!!
zeitgeist>
Jack>Shall we pass the Talking Stick for a while?
zeitgeist>Please do...

Last edited by Jack; 17th November 2007 at 21:57.
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