While I've been practicing the key sound with success using the first seminar CD, I've just recently purchased the second seminar Multiple Orgasm Trigger™ Key Sound Training to make sure I have every iota of information available with no stone unturned.

I just listened to part of the second seminar. I noticed the key sound in the 20 minute session mp3 file is quite a bit different (e.g. lower, deeper, more raw) than the sample key sound that comes with the first seminar.

What is the main difference between the two? I noticed a slight difference in echo effects when I mimicked both sounds, but I'll have to play around with it some more to pin down details.

Thanks.

Very good idea! That's why I made the second one, since that Key Sound discovery I made is the secret to pumping arousal to the multiorgasmic intensity without using more stimulation - which is what triggers the ejaculation reflex in men...

That is how you learn to enjoy all of the multiple orgasms you want without any squeezing, tensing, edging, breath-holding, or other holding back!

It's really so simple that a lot of people have trouble believing it could be that easy! It's just the Key Sound plus relaxation plus maybe that little single caress of a pleasurable area now and then, and then learning to quiet all of the doubts, impatience, and other mind noise.

Imagine that!

It's essentially the same sound... looks pretty much the same in a digital sound editor, but you're right, I took more time to relax when I made the second CD.

The more relaxed and deeper, without straining (very important not to force or strain), usually the stronger the effects.

Good idea! Use the version that triggers more Echo Effects. The Echo Effects are your primary guide for letting you know when you're on track.

Wishing you all the very best,
Jack

The last few weeks I've been testing the key sound, first as how I perceive it from the first seminar, then again using the 20 minute mp3 from the second seminar. The first key sound, at least when I make it, is a bit more tense compared to the sound I make when listening to the 20 minute mp3. After some observation, this definitely produces different echo effects.

In the former case, the echo effects are a lot more "acute". I can only describe it as this because they feel "sharp", and my body tenses up easily, which I then have to constantly relax. The arousal does build into a full-body feeling, but I end up involuntarily shaking very quickly. When I was practicing with this more "tense" key sound, I would usually stop my practice at around the 10 minute mark because the echo effects were so intense (e.g. acute) that I was jittery and uncomfortable sitting in one spot. These were the effects I described at the end of my Success Story post.

Now in the latter case (mimicking the sound from the 20 minute mp3), I would first notice the resulting echo effects as more "diffuse". They were not "sharp" this time, but more gentle and less intense. And while I didn't feel as much pleasure from it, I was able to remain relaxed, with only a few muscle groups in the stomach and legs occasionally tensing up. With this more relaxed sound, I could easily sit through an entire 20 minute session with no discomfort.

Since my initial few test sessions, I have decided to model my key sounds as I hear them in the second seminar. To you more experienced folk, I'm sure this is a no-brainer. After all, relaxation is key to this practice! These more diffuse echo effects have grown in strength. In fact, the last couple sessions, I've experience my most powerful echo effects yet. They're not yet at orgasmic levels, but it's oh so tantalizingly close. The wonderful thing is I'm still able to remain relaxed while these powerful echo effects ripple through me. I'm looking forward to what comes next!

I hope this helps illustrate what the difference a complete, relaxed key sound can make in one's practice.