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Old 20th July 2007, 17:41
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Hi,

Relatively new here but have had great experience for the last couple of years using Aneros. I have come to this practice already able to achieve full body orgasms. My question is about the length of a session. I have been told that you should only do about 3 - 20 minute sessions per week. By the time my 20 minutes is up....things are just getting started. So far, I have extended that to about 40 minutes. Anyone see any issues with that?
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Hi, Relatively new here but have had great experience for the last couple of years using Aneros. I have come to this practice already able to achieve full body orgasms. My question is about the length of a session. I have been told that you should only do about 3 - 20 minute sessions per week. By the time my 20 minutes is up....things are just getting started. So far, I have extended that to about 40 minutes. Anyone see any issues with that?
Thanks for the post, Buster!

RE: Extending the time... it depends on what your goals are...

One of the most important things we discovered about this practice is that the strongest and newest effects tend to happen following - and between the active practice sessions.

Therefore I want to encourage you to explore what unexpected effects you might experience by, say, once a week at least... stopping the active practice session after 20 minutes and just relaxing for a while - no aneros, no active stimulation, no ejaculation at the end of it to... "finish off"... Just to find out what unexpected experiences might happen!

The ten-plus years' of posts in this Forum show a consistent pattern of the biggest, most satisfying most delightfully intense new awakenings of sensation and emotion frequently occur after- and on the days between the active practice sessions!

The practice sessions are not intended to produce immediate results during the 20 minutes, but to awaken the multiple orgasm response process, which then often tends to occur spontaneously between these sessions.

When this starts happening, it signals a new level of openness to your true, innate (= not something you have to chase after!) multi-orgasmic potential that will be available to you virtually at any time you simply choose to access it - any time you simply choose to go there!

I look forward to your reports!

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Welcome Buster!

It's great to see another Aneros user on the forum, especially one as helpful and friendly as yourself. Looking forward to hearing how your practice progresses.

For me, my KSMO sessions kick into high gear during the 20 minute session as well. It seems that most of my new experiences have occurred during those 20 minutes rather than after or between the sessions. I'll admit though, that I sometimes follow a KSMO session with an Aneros session or one on the following day. I may even masturbate later as well, but I usually just edge and try not to ejaculate. I certainly don't want to waste the energy that I've built up by ejaculating. All this to say that I need to get back to basics and see if any of those new and unexpected experiences that Jack refers to start occurring on the off days between my KSMO sessions.

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Old 21st July 2007, 03:49
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Hi Onthepath,

It was certainly easy for me to feel welcome over here with all the familiar guys that I have been kabitzing with over at Aneros. I appreciate your kind words. Now, all I need to do is be able to figure out how to manuever around on this site and I will be good to go.

Per Jack's recommendation, I just got out of a 20 minute KSMO session. When I say 20 minutes, I mean of doing Key Sound. I stopped doing that after 20 minutes then kept going for another half hour or so. The whole time, I had one hand on my stomach and the other on my chest. No stimulation what so ever. I had some incredible moments during that half hour that were induced by nothing more than my mind and breath.

Jack, I can see what you mean. I just need to slow it down and almost make the post Key Sound time be almost meditative in nature. I had my eyes closed and just continually took my breath in and out. My breathing during a full body orgasm has been a problem in the past. I believe that this will be a key as I proceed.

I was enjoying full body orgasms throughout a good chunk of my session tonight. They were not as intense as I have experienced in other sessions. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being best, I was hovering between 4-7. Not bad for 5 or so KSMO sessions under my belt. Where things got pretty interesting was during my post-KSMO period. I was feeling some different feelings that I want to explore.

Onthepath, I have not had an Aneros session on the same day as KSMO at this point. Masturbating to the edge is a pretty common occurance. There is a certain power in it that I can't explain. I have found that withholding the ejaculation does provide me with an energy that has been discussed before. I will have my Aneros sessions on alternate days. I dont have the time to do one or the other every day, but I am working into a pattern that will work.

Sorry about the length of the post, but I guess I had a lot on my mind. My best to all.
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Hi Onthepath,

It was certainly easy for me to feel welcome over here with all the familiar guys that I have been kabitzing with over at Aneros. I appreciate your kind words. Now, all I need to do is be able to figure out how to manuever around on this site and I will be good to go.
Buster, I definitely add my warm welcome to you as well!

The vBulletin software that supports this Knowledge Base has many powerful features! vBulletin is one of the most widely used Forum software programs on the web so what you learn here may also be useful at many other sites (literally, thousands!).

Therefore, it will probably be well worth your time to click the FAQ link on the horizontal navbar and read all of the topics under For reasons of privacy and security, not all of the features may be implemented here, but you will be surprised at what you can do, nevertheless.

You may also find additional tips in the sub-forum:

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Per Jack's recommendation, I just got out of a 20 minute KSMO session. When I say 20 minutes, I mean of doing Key Sound. I stopped doing that after 20 minutes then kept going for another half hour or so.
You kept going with what activity? Please be specific, for further guidance.

The whole time, I had one hand on my stomach and the other on my chest.

Cool! Although it's not necessary to keep hands in a single place like that. It is not specified in the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol Summary Update pdf that is included with your copy of the Introductory Seminar.

No stimulation what so ever.

Ok... That may certainly be effective, but it is not required.

Again, please keep in mind that that is not what is specified in the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol Summary Update.

The Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol(tm) specifies that you do use a single touch or caress of a pleasurably responsive area of your body (genitals, nipples, or anywhere that simply feels nice to the touch) just before each use of the Key Sound(tm).

I recommend that you give that document another careful read, and... just for fun follow it exactly for at least some of your 20 minute practice sessions... just to learn what you might discover about how this awakening process may work!

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I had some incredible moments during that half hour that were induced by nothing more than my mind and breath.
Well done! Congratulations!

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Jack, I can see what you mean. I just need to slow it down and almost make the post Key Sound time be almost meditative in nature.
It doesn't even have to be almost... At least some times, go ahead and make it fully a meditative, very relaxed and relaxing kind of practice!

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I had my eyes closed and just continually took my breath in and out. My breathing during a full body orgasm has been a problem in the past. I believe that this will be a key as I proceed.
Fantastic! That's a big plus!!!

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I was enjoying full body orgasms throughout a good chunk of my session tonight.
Well done!!!

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They were not as intense as I have experienced in other sessions.
...And that is one of the reasons that single touch or caress is part of the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol(tm)... to give that intensity level just a little nudge!

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On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being best, I was hovering between 4-7. Not bad for 5 or so KSMO sessions under my belt.
And definitely not bad for using no stimulation whatsoever!

You have definitely taught yourself the inherent power of the Key Sound itself, plus relaxation!

Now put that together with that single touch or caress... to discover even more!

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Where things got pretty interesting was during my post-KSMO period.
And that is what we've been talking about!!! That very often, the strongest, most remarkable effects occur after the actual 20 minute sessions, and on the days in between!

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I was feeling some different feelings that I want to explore.
Great! At least some of the time, please give yourself plenty of room to learn new sensations by not continuing with any... active erotic activity at all, such as edging or whatever.

At least some of the time, after the 20 minutes, just relax, maybe listen to some music, and do not continue with any other erotically stimulative activity such as using the aneros, genital stroking and edging, or whatever.

This is not a rule... but it is a very enthusiastic suggestion!

It addresses our pre-conceived prejudices that it "just can't be that simple" when in fact, it actually is THAT simple!!!

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Onthepath, I have not had an Aneros session on the same day as KSMO at this point.
Good!

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Masturbating to the edge is a pretty common occurance.
On the same day as the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol practice?

If the answer is yes, once again I urge you to explore at least some of the time that you do not masturbate after the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol practice.

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There is a certain power in it that I can't explain.
Wait til you check out the even greater power when you do not follow the KSMO practice with other masturbation!!!

You may not notice this the very first time, and you might feel tempted to use that as a rationalization to revert to the masturbation and edging after KSMO practice - i.e., reverting to more familiar territory - but... at least some of the time, I encourage you to explore what happens when you practice the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol exactly as suggested in the pdf document - a method that has been time-tested by hundreds (if not thousands!) of people for over a decade!!!

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I have found that withholding the ejaculation does provide me with an energy that has been discussed before.
Yes... familiar territory, and thus it may soothe the anxiety and temporarily avoid what we refer to as Terror at the Gates, but... I wonder what you might be missing be always reverting to this familiar activity??? Curious???

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I will have my Aneros sessions on alternate days.
Good plan!

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I dont have the time to do one or the other every day, but I am working into a pattern that will work.
Good! Please take a day off from both active practices at least once - and sometimes twice a week - just to discover what might happen!!!

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Sorry about the length of the post, but I guess I had a lot on my mind.
Please do not feel concerned about the length of your posts! There is plenty of server space left, and when you fill this one up, we'll add another!!!

The more you share, the more you learn, and... the more you help others who read your posts learn!!!

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And to you!!!

Wishing all the very best that life has to offer!
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Thanks for the post, Buster!

RE: Extending the time... it depends on what your goals are...

One of the most important things we discovered about this practice is that the strongest and newest effects tend to happen following - and between the active practice sessions.

Therefore I want to encourage you to explore what unexpected effects you might experience by, say, once a week at least... stopping the active practice session after 20 minutes and just relaxing for a while - no aneros, no active stimulation, no ejaculation at the end of it to... "finish off"... Just to find out what unexpected experiences might happen!

The ten-plus years' of posts in this Forum show a consistent pattern of the biggest, most satisfying most delightfully intense new awakenings of sensation and emotion frequently occur after- and on the days between the active practice sessions!

The practice sessions are not intended to produce immediate results during the 20 minutes, but to awaken the multiple orgasm response process, which then often tends to occur spontaneously between these sessions.

When this starts happening, it signals a new level of openness to your true, innate (= not something you have to chase after!) multi-orgasmic potential that will be available to you virtually at any time you simply choose to access it - any time you simply choose to go there!

I look forward to your reports!

All the best,
Jack
Thanks for the reminder of all that. I definitely needed to hear that and the timing (of your posting) is right on (for me).
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Thanks for the reminder of all that. I definitely needed to hear that and the timing (of your posting) is right on (for me).
You're very welcome bredelly. It's great to hear from you again! I wish you all the very best...

Hey Buster, do you see what I mean about how your questions and comments wind up helping others? Good onya Brother!
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Old 22nd July 2007, 16:28
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Hi Jack,

Thank you for your reply. I will try to answer some of your questions/concerns.

I have gone through and read the FAQ area and it is pretty self explanitory. I appreciate your direction there. It is just structured differently and I will have to spend some time with it. I am sure it will all come with some time.

As far as the other things go. When I mentioned that I "kept going" after my initial 20 minute KSMO session, that meant that I stopped making the Key Sounds and just laid there with my eyes closed and tried to concentrate (yet not concentrate) on the feelings that I was experiencing. I kept my hands on my stomach and chest to have that time be just for my mind to discover.....not my hands. I will give the protocol another read. It appears that this caressing/stimulation is something that I will need to make a part of these sessions. With everything that I have been attempting to learn, it is always good to refer back. In other sessions, I have used the "edging" as part of that stimulation. Not exclusively, but part of it. Obviously never completing it to ejaculation. Perhaps the stimulation needs to be more subtle than that. I have stuck to the protocol of no ejaculation on the day of a session.

These echo feelings that I will feel from time to time I have always felt was an indicator that I should fire up for an Aneros or KSMO session. What I am thinking is being implied here is to do neither but to find a quiet spot and see what I can do with it??

Still learnning and appreciating the feedback.

Update to this mornings post: Hi Jack, I have gone back and re-read the protocol. I get what you are saying now. The stimulation that I was using (edging) would be considered too intense and distracting. While the stimulation is important, I need to figure out one that is far more subtle. Thanks
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