Hi guys!

It's been so long since I posted, I'm not sure how many of you will even remember me ;-)

I think all in all I haven't been committed enough to this practice to really make it worth my while. College life is very unlike normal life, and privacy was a very real issue from time to time in trying to set up an effective practice routine. Now that I'm on summer vacation, I'll have all the privacy I need until mid-August, so.. it's the perfect time to revive the KSMO!

I'll give you a brief account on where I stand with KSMO at the moment. I've had some slow but encouraging signs over the last year or so (since I first bought JJ's materials), to where I've experienced at least a light FBO a handful of times but not consistently. The sensations in the FBO's have been mostly tingling that I've been feeling since the beginning, bouncing throughout my body and gaining energy as they do so. I usually get these on an off day while I'm relaxing-I've only had one FBO during actual practice.

The echoes I experience regularly (but not in FBO yet) include more aching feelings (not in a bad way), fluttering pulses (does that make sense??), and a feeling of pressure kind of inside my stomach. Today while relaxing I felt a fluttering feeling in my chest and stomach area (prelude to heartgasms??), and afterward I was extremely relaxed and a feeling of emotional stimulation followed me for several hours. It felt peaceful and emotionally stimulated, the way I'd imagine the beginnings of an "emotional orgasm" to feel like. I'm taking this as an exciting preview of what could be in store down the road.

These experiences are interesting and I like them very much, but I can't help thinking my progress is abnormally slow. Today I practiced the KS some more, and I confirmed what I already knew: Most of the time, but not all of the time, I am doing the KS incorrectly. Sometimes it feels really resonant and I know it's a good one, but many times I just can't seem to get anything good to happen at all in that department. I reviewed Jack's seminar and it stressed (ironic word choice :-p ) keeping the throat completely relaxed, and then I noticed I was trying to make the KS out of my throat most of the time! And to make matters worse, I can't seem to figure out how to move the sound down into the chest for the life of me! :-P Obviously I am doing it right enough, enough of the time to get echoes, but this is clearly a problem area.

I think this has a lot to do with my slow progress, and my first order of business in following with a new commitment involves listening to the KS samples, experimenting, reading in the forum, etc. to get this KS skill ironed out ASAP.

Well in retrospect I'm not sure that was a brief account after all, but I think I said what I had to :-P

Last week I looked online for some info on voice production etc. and got some decent tips at being able to feel and create vocal resonance in the chest. This is helping, and I'm starting to be able to make the KS resonate from the chest more and more often because of it. Keeping my throat relaxed is still an obstacle for me.

Right now I'm doing practice w/o stim every couple of days, concentrating on making a resonant KS. Last time I tried going along with Jack's 20 minute practice, but next time I'm going to try an even more direct comparison and compare my voice recording to a 20 min sample KS. actually it's not doing the practice at all - I'm putting active practice completely on hold until I can produce a good, solid, consistent KS (although there's always experimenting in the conventional :-D )

As for other developments, I went to a music festival this weekend, and the very loud bass started to resonate with parts of my body. I began to feel it vibrating areas on the left side of my neck, which have become erotic hot spots recently. I was able to enjoy echoes while standing in the crowd listening to the music. Yesterday I started getting an erotic sense in these hot spots while relaxing in a chair. I just relaxed more and paid attention to the erotic feelings I was experiencing in these parts in my neck. As I got better and better at not giving in to "holding on" to the sensations as they happened, I got to experience stronger echoes over a wider area as I "let go" of the feelings and allowed them to go where they would. I moved to the bed to relax more and after a while the echoes turned into several low-intensity orgasms darting around the left half of my body before going away. These effects have been centering more and more on certain hot spots recently, and I like the very erotic feeling in these hot spots while this is happening.

That's all for now, more soon I'm sure

Hi Airn,

Would you please post the link(s) as a reply to this thread, so that others may benefit as well? Thanks!

Great! I firmly believe that learning to use the Key Sound in a way that you notice vibration in the chest when you place your hand there is vitally important. I believe that there is an actual physical benefit of somehow vibrating the energy centers along our spinal column to help awaken them and allow the increasing arousal energy to flow more freely.

What are your hunches about why that is?

Are you trying to make the Key Sound louder or to get it to make the Echo Effects happen? Or???

Unless there is some particular reason, I'm not sure I understand why this is necessary. Nevertheless, I think it's fine if you want to as a means of exploring your own body's responses further.

That said, I want to encourage you to use the single touch of a pleasurable area of your body (not necessarily genitals) on alternate practice sessions - that is, one session with no stimulation as you described, then at least one day off from practice, then the next time go ahead and use the single touch or caress followed by the gentle Key Sound and two to four relaxing breaths and then repeating - doing so for not much more than twenty minutes per session.

I'd really like to know what results on the Echo Effects that may have.

What do you mean by experimenting in the conventional? Do you mean more traditional masturbation?

Of course you have the ultimate decision in how you want to approach your practice... My intuition resulting from my 14 years of experience with this practice keeps whispering that you go ahead and practice at least once a week in the manner specified in the pdf Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol Summary Update unless there are emotional furballs (i.e., negative associations or emotions) that are coming up during practice, in which case it's important to identify and resolve the emotional furballs - with professional counseling assistance if they persist.

Then alternate that baseline practice with your other explorations.

Excellent! It's really great that you are noticing these responses. Music that stirs your emotions in a positive way is a wonderful way to help continuing to open your responsiveness!

As you feel these erotic hot spots awakening in your neck - what emotions are accompanying them? I'm asking this because above you mentioned feeling some blockage in your throat. I'm wondering if there are sounds you are naturally feeling moved to allow during practice privately (but not in public, of course!), but don't feel emotionally comfortable doing so. Any chance of that?

Excellent! Right on Protocol, Brother!


Great! Relaxation is key.

All right!!!

For the benefit of others learning this lifelong skill, are you comfortable sharing where these hot spots are located? (As always, sharing of details is optional!)

I agree! Thanks very much for this great report... Very promising!!!

All the best,
Jack

Thanks for replying, Jack.
I'm not quite sure how to do several small quotes, so I'll try to cover everything w/o quotes or confusion.

http://happybrainstorm.com/voice-and...h-development/

That is the site I used to get a bit of a clue on how to bring my voice down into the chest. Like I said, it has been helping, but I have the sense I still need to practice and practice to get it so I can consistently produce the sound deep down in my chest (I can do it now, but my body keeps "forgetting" how and I have to remind it). This goes hand in hand with my quest in mastering the KS. Sometimes I find it easy to get really good resonance in the chest, and sometimes because of how I've trained my voice to make sound it just wants to stay in the throat. IMO getting consistent chest resonance for my voice needs to happen first, before I can have MAXIMUM results from practicing getting the KS bang-on, although I'm working on that in the meantime too. I believe the tension in my throat I mentioned to be purely physical strain, because how my throat feels seems to be directly related to how much talking I do w/o finding my deep resonant voice.

I think you're right about practicing with stimulation, too. My KS might not be the best but I'll roll with it and keep on improving it in the meantime. In my practice today my KS kind of conked out on me (hard to stay in chest), but I think coupling the (weak) KS with the stimulation did more for my echoes than trying to hold it a bit longer and "correcting" my KS to make it better, which I also tried. The echoes seemed to respond faintly but directly to the KS. That doesn't happen very often. Usually the KS doesn't seem to affect the echoes in an immediate way and I'm not sure why. Maybe I'm not timing it right or need to be more sensitive to the arousal the stim is generating, or something.

That said, I don't know how to describe the emotions that accompanied the sensations in my neck during the music festival. I guess it just felt like I was feeling the music. Like I said earlier, I'm more of the opinion that too much vocal strain is going on in the throat area, but I won't completely dismiss that there might be emotional blockage too. Most strong emotions have been triggering big responses in several spots along the left side of my neck, which are the hot spots I was talking about. These are where my orgasms have been originating lately. My feet also tend to get involved quite often, along my hands and especially fingertips too. In fact, for a while the echoes in my feet would get so strong I was convinced I couldn't handle them and had to find ways to "turn them off" all the time. And not that long ago I discovered that I could relax more and my body would then be able to handle them.

Most of my "unprovoked" echoes happen in the evening, especially right before bed. Sometimes my body won't let me fall asleep before giving me sometimes light and occasionally strong echoes, after which I can easily fall asleep because I was tired to begin with. This week something strange and exciting happened too. I was having a sexual dream, and eventually I dreamed I was having an orgasm, when I instantly awoke to an orgasm of probably the highest intensity I've had yet, though solely located in my balls. It lasted maybe 20 sec and had me rolling around the bed spontaneously for the first time, but no spontaneous noises. I haven't yet experienced a spontaneous need to express myself with sound. I should probably be even more excited about this, but after it happened I pretty much instantly went back to sleep, and so my memory of it is kinda hazy. In fact, if it weren't so strong of an experience I probably would have remembered it as part of my dream.

Well, I think this is long enough for one post. Thanks again for the reply.
Signing off,
Airn

So last night when I decided to go to bed my body had other plans for me. This time while enjoying the echoes as usual, I noticed that the spots emitting the most energy seemed to seemed to have MORE deeper down just waiting for me, like a miniature well of erotic feeling where I was only drawing from the surface. I noticed this feeling before, but last night I decided not to wait too long, and I "followed" the erotic feeling down. Well what I got was much stronger echoes and feelings spreading to other parts of my body.

Now after that something new happened. A new hot spot identified itself and became a strong source of echo energy (the "million dollar spot" along the perineum). Then, my fingertips started orgasming strong and in very quick succession. Think of an engine firing. These strong feelings sparked other echoes throughout my body. I had a feeling I've never had before - it felt like an explosion in character, coming out of my first two fingers. An energy pop I guess :-P My feet were having very strong echoes as well throughout the entire time, and the older hot spots on my neck got involved later as well.

So in summary my feet, perineum, fingertips and neck seemed to be sources of energy to spread around throughout my body, and these have got to be the strongest echoes I've experienced to date. My overall impression is my body likes what I'm doing practice-wise :-) My whole day today has been brightened because of it

Airn-- one word came from my lips when I read your magnificent post- AWWRIGHT!!!! and a mile wide smile was on my face - happy for YOU!!!

A TRUE testament to what MMO is all about in the fact of being aware of any new feelings/sensations that arise with practice.

my hat is off to you!!

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With Love, Light and with a Joyously singing heart,
Laly
Old forum threads of mine :
http://tiny.cc/KOx0x - shy newbie
http://tiny.cc/mt9sd - letting go of anger
http://tiny.cc/wR7Hb - multiple orgasm success-insight

I read this in a book today "You never know how much courage you have until you face your greatest fears head on".

Laly- thanks so much for the encouragement. I haven't been reading much in the forums lately, but I've read some of your posts and I respect you for what you've gone through.

In spite of my previous post, it turns out that all is not fun and games over here. Jack suspected that the tension in my throat might be from an emotional blockage and suddenly I have to agree with him. Today I became keenly aware of an emotional blockage--pretty severe blockage. I feel there's great emotions below this that I'm keeping carefully dammed up, and once they've been released I doubt I could stop tears from coming.

The lucky part of all this is that I know what I have to do to resolve this. And my body tells me it has to happen tonight, provided I have the courage. This feeling came up probably a month ago, and I didn't act on it but instead filed it under the "I'll get to it" category. I'm feeling a strong dread as I write this.

I'll be checking in soon
Airn

And I respect what you have and currently going through as well Airn.

I never meant to offend you Airn-I truly wonder if it was EVER a fun and game-y journey for any KSMO/MMO member all the time. Yeah-i know all to well about damming up emotions and burying them til they just come out and 'grab' ya's unaware. And I also agree with you about the tears- I personally can say from my experience- they ARE hard to stop- but I also realize they are also stress-relieving at times, and I find myself just openly weeping just for the sheer joy of it.

*smiles. good to know that you know what to do in resolving this. Am curious tho when you say it has to happen tonite !! Be gentle with yourself- rushing any healing is not good for you ...may even be discouraging if you feel that you havent healed/had the 'correct' amount of courage to do it all in one shot.

I too know about the 'get to it' feeling-and the feelings of dread - but you know - imo ...i found that once I talked it out- I felt better. A weight lifted and i took a deep breath and released it - like 'okay-you've said this and that = now how do you feel?' As i type now the tears are jsut freely flowiing making it hard to see to type -recalling what I had done in facing my past and continuing to do to banish the nightmares and move on .


- just remember be gentle with yourself-

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With Love, Light and with a Joyously singing heart,
Laly
Old forum threads of mine :
http://tiny.cc/KOx0x - shy newbie
http://tiny.cc/mt9sd - letting go of anger
http://tiny.cc/wR7Hb - multiple orgasm success-insight

I read this in a book today "You never know how much courage you have until you face your greatest fears head on".

Laly- no offense taken.. that comment was not intended to be pointed in any way. My humor can be dry especially when in emotional circumstances and doesn't always translate well online. I'll try to be clearer about what I mean.

As far as the furball goes, that entire day was very strange. It brought up strong emotions that wore me out early in the day. I felt an urgent need to spend time with my father, so when I said it had to happen tonight, that was just what it felt like to me, not trying to rush things. Now that there's been some time to get more perspective I think that my body was calling me to be more authentic and emotionally open. Since that day I've been paying more attention to being both and I think it's helping.

Thanks for writing in with advice and experience. I think my body might have over-reacted, but maybe it was necessary to shake me up and make me more aware of the situation.
Airn