I had an empathy check last night; I was watching a drama on TV, in which a woman gasped with a particular 'intake of breath'

Was I surprised by the strength of MY echo from that!



My KS session last night was the best yet.

My body overall felt somehow more elastic and less stiff and;

Still more resonance within the Key Sound - growling... and diffusing throughout my body, particularly within my torso, the centre of resonance appeared to move depending on the key sound timing along with definite muscle movements of the stomach.

The Echo Effects were at their most intense level of magnitude to date - All limbs, all parts of the torso - like a flicker of a flame throughout. And the HEAT, I seemed to be burning up...

..and all I did was surrender *into* the experience like a ship meeting the waves...

Fantastic!

Hi Zeit,

You appear to be on the brink of things - congratulations! Do you mind my asking if your practices involve any kind of stim., or whether you're just using the KS along with the breathing?

TANTROS

Not at all! I replied here:

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:-)



'Z'

That is awesome isn't it Z!!

I have found that , much like Laguna has mentioned, when in a group
of people I am able to perceive their energy and if allow it -
sometimes even bands of color. As Jack has mentioned numeerous times that this
is a private sexual act- I do not let it go much futher than the warmth
that fills my heart and the bright smile that comes thereafter.

"Echo Effects were at their most intense level of magnitude to date -
All limbs, all parts of the torso - like a flicker of a flame
throughout..."

I can relate quite well with that and add that with those flames I
also get the feeling of being dipped in an icy bathing sensation as well
- but doesn't detract from my practice- it actually is quite
arousing...bringing me higher into the orgasmic planes of pleasure and arousal.

"..and all I did was surrender *into* the experience like a ship
meeting the waves..."

AWWESOME!! way to allow yourself to grow!! As i read your post, my
heart was filled with such joy and happiness for you and am smiling in
that 'knowing what you are feeling' emotions.

Congrats !! Hugs to you !!


With Love, Light and from my Joyously singing heart,
Laly

Hello Laly!

>That is awesome isn't it Z!!

YES!!


>>"Echo Effects were at their most intense
>>level of magnitude to date -
>>All limbs, all parts of the torso - like a >>flicker of a flame
>>throughout..."

>I can relate quite well with that and add >that with those flames I
>also get the feeling of being dipped in an
>icy bathing sensation as well
>- but doesn't detract from my practice- it
>actually is quite
>arousing...bringing me higher into the
>orgasmic planes of pleasure and arousal.

Wow! I get a similar numbing sensation on the epidermis - outer skin layer...

> AWWESOME!! way to allow yourself to grow!!
> As i read your post, my
heart was filled with such joy and happiness >for you and am smiling in
that 'knowing what you are feeling' emotions.

>Congrats !! Hugs to you !!


TY Laly, I was suprised last night, My Echo Effects was *even better*! I was expecting some sort of plateau, but no... The key sound was richer and even more mature, somehow the sound has a sort of vibrato added to it.

The feelings have really ramped up and I wonder, what on earth will happen NEXT! :-0


Hugs back to you Laly! TY for your wonderful support... :-)


'Z'

[snip - with thanks to Laly for her great supportive reply]
>
>>>"Echo Effects were at their most intense
>>>level of magnitude to date -
>>>All limbs, all parts of the torso - like a >>flicker of a flame
>>>throughout..."

EXCELLENT NEWS Brother!
[snip]
>TY Laly, I was suprised last
>night, My Echo Effects was
>*even better*! I was expecting
>some sort of plateau, but
>no...
!
Once again, the conscious expectations are
foiled by the genetically inherited map the Echo Effects are using!

>The key sound was richer
>and even more mature, somehow
>the sound has a sort of
>vibrato added to it.

Wonderful!

You are really demonstrating in this post the power and
benefits of ALLOWING with a sense of awe and wondering
what may happen but without being attached to
a particular outcome.

You are IN THE ZONE !

>The feelings have really
>ramped up and I wonder, what
>on earth will happen NEXT!

Yeah that is a perfect example of showing up for practice
with the Empty Cup !

>:-0
>
>
>Hugs back to you Laly! TY for
>your wonderful support... :-)
>
>
>'Z'

I second that emotion re: Laly's great support!

All the best,
Jack

Wow!

High level feelings increased *yet again*...

Before today's KS session I felt so 'erotic' for several hours with my perineium wanting some, ahem, attention. The echo effects were quite strong and significant, this was then followed by a strong, single wave of orgasmic feeling (like that feeling just before orgasm) IN MY TORSO. NOT in the genital region! oh, the tears of joy from this!

The area in which it was felt was on my left hand side, from my waist through my hip and left buttock to mid-thigh.

It was a peak experience, and I intuited that was enough for today although for the rest of today (including now, eight hours later) I still feel 'erotic'. This IS new to me! But GOOD!

VERY MUCH worth the journey....

and yet, still to venture gently onward...


More soon!



'Z'

Beautiful, zeit!

Congratulations!!!

Yes... continuing gentle progress.

You're really starting to taste the fractal nature
of this inherent function!

All the Best to you, Brother!!!
JJ

I seem to have entered a period of calm... This bears out Jack's observation that KS practice is a journey that undulates in terms of responses - in !magnitude! and in *quality*, I did wonder whether it was in synchronism with the moon, 28 days etc. but it seems the rhythm is more subtle and complex than this. I'm not going to analyse this any deeper. I no longer feel sad about knowing that responses have diminished as I know that the practice is part of a greater pattern of learning and growing.

I have put coffee back on the menu after a period of abstinence. No measurable effects were noted between *some* coffee and no coffee on my practice, although moderation is a good qualifier.

I seem to have a KS practice rhythm of sorts - not too rigid, cos that's not how it works, I seem to have a series of every-other-days of building energy cycles interspersed with conventional masturbation every 3/4th day.

I'm on a non-KS practice day today on a building cycle, with background echo effects present; deep feelings within my core, a specific awareness of my perineum, tingles in various limbs, various rhythms of waves, pulse-like and fine vibration pattern that feels like small relections of movements from parts of the body that affect other parts of the body - similar to interference patterns you see like dropping two stones into a pool of water. My body seems to have adopted a 'fluidic' flexibility. This manifests itself in odd ways; if I cross my legs, I get a muscular ripple through my body like a slinky spring! If I shake a bottle then... you guessed it! %-P

I have just read one of the most informative and emotional chats I have ever read on this forum; Chat # 0256: It includes some fantastic tips on technique to advance one's KS practice which I shall incorporate. It also contains some conversations that really *moved* me in deep and positive ways :'



'Z'

Ohh yes, I'm back on the trail alright,

Maybe this recent dip I documented will help those who are to follow, it was almost two weeks of very little echo effects during practice before they started to return in strength. I had faith in my previous experiences and no evidence they would return but return they did.

Simple conclusion; Have Faith when practice results seem to be in retrograde.

Now I'm still affected by today's session more than 5 hours later. I started off by the usual tuning up with the key sound on max husk which has now returned, then placed my hand on my perineum whereby some lovely electric feelings made themselves available in that region and then spread outwards, several deeper feelings were noticed also within my trunk and a combination of these, waves and muscle spasms and trembling filling my body. I never had so many echo effects in so many areas before at once simultaneously and at a high level of pleasure, two lots of bliss tears followed over the course of the session with the intensity of feelings overall.

Regrettably real life intervened at this magic time and I cut short the session. I wondered whether I should resume as the energy levels were still high with echo effects still present. Expression of the key sound helped a little but I still had this full body 'aura' of low level pleasure with an increase in the groin area 8-p

Finally, I initiated a further session where the energy levels increased again and I was *aware* that there may be an issue of a PONR to Ejaculate. By noticing the localised prostrate feeling based on fluid - the siren of ejaculation rather than orgasm, I expressed the key sound at higher levels which worked. *Finally* I felt more grounded - and congratulated myself on the PONR recognition.

Now my body is effected by waves, still, and a full body awareness similar to an afterglow - so I suspect I still have energy circulating through me. Methinks a long walk to ground this energy may help.


More as and when!



'Z'