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Old 11th April 2006, 21:22
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Laly, It is always good to read your wonderful posts, Its so good, to receive from you, your gift of words and sounds so freely given, Thank you.
It does help to know that I'm on the right track!

I took some quality time to tune the KS from my body to feel the resonances at various sound levels and note. The 'rolling' of the KS has become quite natural.

The journey for me is just going fine, the scenery is more varied than I expected :-)

So, Laly,
sing your symphonies
so clear and bright,
for who knows what;
thou brings forth -
in so much light!
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A quick holiday opportunity post... (Its Easter).


I had a hight stim. session yesterday - nothing spectacular about that - except some directed breathing after orgasm produced some wonderful full body effects from the charged breath. As a result of increased orgasmic capacity?
I hesitate to call these 'full orgasms' but it was a delightful expansion of aftershocks.

My reduction in high-stim conventional orgasms, from one-a-day (sounds like a vitamin regime!) to once per 10 days has given me an appreciation of other ADDITIONAL sexual feelings.

Imagine drinking through a straw. the last dregs are hard to appreciate aren't they?
this is like having a conventional hi-stim orgasm once a day. There is no reserve of energy left in the container.
Now compare that to allowing the charge/fluid to build over 10 days. Not only can you then drink a draught, so to speak but there is plenty in the glass!

I found constant stimulation daily can induce swelling from overuse. By keeping back for a while, One allows repairs to be made to oneself, the sensitivity goes up AND you start to become aware of OTHER feelings associated with sex, not just that tingly achy feeling on your primary sexual organ. One's skin becomes quite sensitive, breath becomes sensual and a sexual charge fills your body. And the tank gets a chance to fill. So when it is released...

And you get rid of that lethargy you've been carrying around...

The biggest advantage for the protocol is that this also clears the stage of 'body noise' to allow you to notice EXTRA feelings such as the echo effects that begin to appear all over your body as described by Jack. It's quite a surprise to get these feelings in other parts of your body and not just in the obvious place! :-D
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TY Laly I hope your Easter was nice too!

Over the holiday I've been thinking about why reading some of the
posts in the forum have affected me. I suspect there is some
internal mental/physical processing going on.

For example, imagine that someone wrote:

"...then I had a itch on my nose..."

Most people would understand the sentence as written, and from
the words they may construct an image and construct an itch of
which to scratch. I wonder how many people scratched their nose
in response to this post? :-) Go on scratch THAT itch!

So when people writing in the forum recount their sexual
experiences in using the protocol and sucesses, I wonder how many
people construct or enact their own 'version' within themselves
through association or synesthesia - additional sense experiences
- FROM THE WORDS?

One idea that language shapes our world is suggested by the Sapir-Whorff
Conjecture.

some links here:

conj#1

conj#2

conj#3

My personal thoughts lead me to suspect there is actually some
interplay through association/synesthesia with language and sense
experience - whether it is directly sensed, constructed or
remembered.


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Old 18th April 2006, 02:49
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Zeitgeist ...

That is sooo true...I have read posts myself and done
that very same thing.

I have also (blushing as i mention this) have had some
really wild and pleasurable echo waves from these
posts as well, reacting to the sheer excitement that I
"feel" come from these posts.
I also have had a time (*smiling at rememberance)
where I was in live chat with Jack and Pan and the
discussion of KSMO protocal with a newbie member and
reading the words that Jack was saying to him/her as
Jack described the protocal I automatically began
doing the things that Jack was writing about...that is
involuntary! Was not something I had intented BUT my
body just went into "auto-mode" and 'I' was along for
this sacred and very pleasurable ride :-).

I think I shocked Pan (or made him laugh- not sure
..LOL) when I mentioned this lil session I just had
that resulted in a doubly highly-arousable KSMO
orgasmic peak-all without stimulation. Just from
reading Jack;s words and breathing in and out slowly
and relaxing my entire body and just letting go of
stress and limitations.

Thanks for sharing those wonderful links as well -- i
will be sure to chek them out!!

With a joyous heart and smiling vibrant soul!

With Love, Light, and a Joyous singing heart...Have a blessed day!
Laly

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I am not surprised at your response Laly. I am fond of a saying that says; "Attention goes when attention flows". I sense also that you have a degree of empathy too and I suspect that empathy and association (with other people's experiences and words are also linked.

I use the 'success' forum posts in a similar way that sports-people mentally rehearse before they undertake their event in 'real time'. A sort of future pacing. I mentally go through the experience from beginning to end paying real attention to the descriptions provided.

I also use affirming messages such as; "I shall get this... I deserve this... move forward when you are ready... etc."

Of course, I can't know exactly what type of progress lies ahead although I can indulge in a little generalisation. It is also very easy to intellectualise all this and forget the pleasure of the journey!

Now I let my body tell me when its ready for a KS session. I use the opening part of a session to 'tune up' with the KS only, to find the definite point where the resonance makes contact with the dispersing mechanisim in the genital area (dispersing the energy to the rest of the body). Only then do I introduce the erotic touch.

Now THAT is when it gets interesting! :-)

I think, due to past behaviours, my body has been conditioned to accept a low level of orgasmic energy. So current progress has been to accept a higher and higher charge by degree. I notice a circuit breaker effect at the end of each session with a higher level of charge being attained.

Intuitively, I suspect a step-change may be due...

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zeitgeist...i am humble before you and the brimming
tears are falling quite freely as i read your
beautiful post. Thank you for adding a bright shining
light to my soul and a huge smile to my face and my
heart.

For once the words fail me as I sit here and the
toughts scramble quite rapidly as the engery waves
resonate back and forth. I am sit here and I am calm
but my heart is racing and my skin from the arms to
the legs tingle and the heat roling waves just keep
going.

Thank you for your joyful words... Bless you and have
a joyous and Happy Easter holiday!!

With Love, Light, and a Joyous singing heart...Have a blessed day!
Laly

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Hey zeit, thanks for your post.

I definitely agree with you re: Laly's high level of empathy.

It seems that now it's serving her better than ever! :-)

>I use the 'success' forum
>posts in a similar way that
>sports-people mentally
>rehearse before they undertake
>their event in 'real time'. A
>sort of future pacing.

This is an EXCELLENT TIP FOR READERS,
and the positive results of this kind of practice
are confirmed numerous times in this Forum over the years.

>I mentally go through the
>experience from beginning to
>end paying real attention to
>the descriptions provided.

EXCELLENT practice!
>
>I also use affirming messages
>such as; "I shall get this...
>I deserve this... move forward
>when you are ready... etc."

I especially like that last one, as it takes
all of the pressure off. That is VERY important!
>
>Of course, I can't know
>exactly what type of progress
>lies ahead

That is a perfect frame of mind to maintain in this practice:
An open, relaxed curiosity, without chasing after
any particular result on any particular pre-defined timetable.

>although I can indulge in a little
>generalisation. It is also
>very easy to intellectualise
>all this and forget the
>pleasure of the journey!

That's a very important caveat!
>
>Now I let my body tell me when
>its ready for a KS session.

READERS PLEASE NOTE THAT IMPORTANT TIP!

>I use the opening part of a
>session to 'tune up' with the
>KS only, to find the definite
>point where the resonance
>makes contact with the
>dispersing mechanisim in the
>genital area (dispersing the
>energy to the rest of the
>body). Only then do I
>introduce the erotic touch.

Good strategy!

>Now THAT is when it gets
>interesting! :-)
>
>I think, due to past
>behaviours, my body has been
>conditioned to accept a low
>level of orgasmic energy. So
>current progress has been to
>accept a higher and higher
>charge by degree.

Emphasis on: by degree, i.e., a little at a time...
step by step as I say in the title to the first audio seminar. :-)

>I notice a
>circuit breaker effect at the
>end of each session with a
>higher level of charge being
>attained.

I'm not sure what you mean by the circuit breaker
in this context. I hope you'll elaborate about what's
happening in your body and emotions that you are describing
as a circuit breaker. Thanks!
>
>Intuitively, I suspect a
>step-change may be due...

Yes! I hope you'll give the readers more clues about
what's going on inside of your body, sensations,
and emotions that gives you this clue!

Congratulations zeit!

All the very best,
Jack
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Hey Jack, Thanks for the extremely useful feedback! :-D

Yeah, Laly's empathy is positively {{*radiating*}} so well in posts to me, to others and also in her own reflective words, back to herself in so many *healing* ways! Way to go!


Ok, I shall give more details of my experiences, I hope to give a fuller explanation, however, sometimes I struggle to give exactly the right words to my experiences so please bear with me...

...During my current KS session, after a time that feels 'right' - usually when the area around the prostate to perineum feels 'full' or buzzy as a result of using the key sound only, I introduce the slight erotic stim. The increasing charge of sexual feeling is dissipated with the FULL key sound. [The forum discussions about the _rolling quality_ is essential reading as it appears to be efficacious in helping] producing the echo effects.

Over the time of the session, these echoes are producing sporadic hotspots of sexual feeling (like one would get in one's sexual organs) in other parts of my body - as in my right shoulder area for example. Other echoes of buzzy or pins and needles sensations, muscle spasms, hotness may also be present in other areas as I continue to practice. It feels like my body is 'awakening'. Some of these feelings I cannot attribute to any part of my body yet are a part of my experience.

My intuition which I hinted at in my last post, comes from several experiences of sexual sensation that are new to me. Towards the end of the past few sessions, where the level of recognisable sexual feelings is high, I sensed a few, brief, momentary, intense experiences of different NEW sensations that appear to be sexual in nature and have different 'flavours'. One of these experiences had such intensity that I meta-commented:
"Will I be able to stand being fully immersed in THAT (amount of feeling)?" :-o
I can now begin to understand the concept of 'the terror at the gates' - even if my sensations are only precursors to what's to come. Maybe its a good question to ask those whom have travelled this path before.
However, my present intention is to 'be in the moment' and continue to allow the growth of the echoes.

One trap that I do recognise and have caught myself doing once or twice is trying to keep the sexual energy up by concentration rather than letting go. Breathing helps!

The end of each KS session can end in two ways. I can decide to finish the session and just stop what I am doing or I find the sexual charge disappears in a sort of "Huh? Where did it go??" I think this is a circuit breaker. I'm guessing that my body needs time and space to process what's going on, maybe is part of the charge acceptance, or has come up against an issue that needs sorting - although I'm not conscious of anything... yet. Emotionally, I had some down days recently for no apparent reason which maybe part of my growth.
Hey, I've become a moody teenager again!



More soon!


'ZG'

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Old 29th April 2006, 00:13
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Thanks Z

hearing that re-affirmation brings a gerat joy to my
heart and the tears of happiness are ever-flowing
tonite.

HUGSSS!!!!

With Love, Light, and a Joyous singing heart...Have a blessed day!
Laly

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{{{Hugs back}}} FANTASTIC, Laly! :-D


I reflected soon after my last posting about my 'intuitions'. My meta-comment of "Will I be able to stand that amount of pleasure?" could be answered as:

"Not right now" and also

"Soon - as my body prepares and becomes ready for this".


I'm very grateful to that part of me for showing me potentially what's to come...


Regards, ZG

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