Thank you Mog for your valuable insights. I realised (thankfully) early on, that the RATE of change/step change is variable. I'm happy with the progress I'm making - having set my expectations loosely.


>the very sudden, unexpected and substantial breakthroughs as...<

These comments inspire and provoke my curiosity :-) AND SETS SOME INTERESTING OUTCOMES FOR WHICH TO OBSERVE, TY!!


I noticed that I wrote (quite unconciously) >I had my first furball< This presupposes that there is at least one more to come...
...and that each represents an opportunity for growth.


>If not, you have some interesting "side effects" to look forward to!<

Again, TY Mog for your insights, VERY useful for me to set the frame for my mind & body to know what may lay ahead.


>>My last session was not as zingy as the last one......<

Yes, I know those! But they don't depress me any more. Usually, the next session, as if to re-assure me, is that much better than any previous.<

I agree; At that time I realised my body was sending me a signal, so I TOOK NOTICE.
As a counterpoint, Sunday morning (Yesterday) I decided to have a 'conventional' on a non-practice day. Just ONE brush on the shaft of my penis gave me echo effects all over my body for the first time ever. (Reassuringly!) I immediately stopped any further stim. and took the time just to savour and acknowledge these. I didn't NEED anything else. It was satisfying enough in itself. I did masturbate later in the day and I feel that doing this once a week is now enough for me - giving 'space' in which to develop echo effects and notice other, possible 'weak signals' that my body may provide.



More when the next shift occurs...

So an update on my progress...

I think I have, after my first month, got to the stage where I am starting to get the overall rhythm of of the protocol. Do you remember when you first started to drive? Trying to coordinate feet, hands and controls to work in concert with each other? It feels like I've just got that initial sense of everything working together at last.

In terms of my journey, I am experiencing echo effects (including spikes of full orgasmic energy) spontaneously even on off-days and during the practice, my echoes are deepening and these seem to growing in size to cover larger areas of my body than before and different areas of my body at the same time.

I'm also aware of a 'pool' of energy in my lower regions that ebbs and flows erratically and some of this energy seems to flow somewhere within my experience that I can't describe in terms of location, only within my conciousness. Breathing also, appears to have effect on the overall experience.

A difficulty I did have was a blockage in producing the Key sound - between the first and second parts. This was fixed by paying attention to the jaw position. by dropping it much lower led to a better expression.

One side effect I have noticed is for example, when reading posts on this forum. I tend to get echo effects when reading certain key posts - like Pan's obsevations on what it feels like. A sort of combination of synesthaesia and empathy I suspect.

One tip I can pass onto other initiates, is to broaden your focus of attention over the whole of your body and not just the crotch area during your practice, and if you can, refrain from fantasising as your attention is then effectively elsewhere and you will miss those little echo effects that will surely grow!

>I think I have, after my first month, got to the stage where I am starting to get the overall rhythm of of the protocol. Do you remember when you first started to drive? Trying to coordinate feet, hands and controls to work in concert with each other? It feels like I've just got that initial sense of everything working together at last.<

I know exactly what you mean; that is a definite waypoint in the KSMO.

> Breathing also, appears to have effect on the overall experience.<

I regard the Valley Breathing as crucial to my sessions. It rhythmically pumps up the arousal level and deepens and quickens as the excitement builds and the sexual energy in the body increases. I suggest you bring your breathing to the forefront of your awareness during your sessions.

>One tip I can pass onto other initiates, is to broaden your focus of attention over the whole of your body and not just the crotch area during your practice, and if you can, refrain from fantasising as your attention is then effectively elsewhere and you will miss those little echo effects that will surely grow!<

Mmmmm. I hadn't thought of that. I find that fantasising, given that I've passed my driving test(grin), can be very effective in promoting the best orgasms.

Mog

>I know exactly what you mean; that is a definite waypoint in the KSMO.<

Good to know this Mog!

>I suggest you bring your breathing to the forefront of your awareness during your sessions.<

TY for the tip, 'pumping up' seems quite apt. I'll pay more attention to this.


>Mmmmm. I hadn't thought of that. I find that fantasising, given that I've passed my driving test(grin), can be very effective in promoting the best orgasms.<

It may be different for other people. As I was a bit compulsive before I started the protocol, most of my activity was centred around fantasy and I think that given the goal was fairly clear but the route itself was a bit of a blur. I feel I had to go back to the beginning of 'noticing' what can happen in my body. Initially I felt virtually nothing because previously all the 'handiwork' was high-tension, high-activity with no subtlety. Virtually all of my of my sexual feelings was centred in my crotch so that was naturallly where I held the focus of my attention. It seemed to me that to have a FBO, I'd invite myself to go beyond the normal territory of feelings..

I can return to fantasy once I 'pass the test'! :-)

I can report that I have lost all feeling of compulsion - and no longer feel permanently tired!

>I feel I had to go back to the beginning of 'noticing' what can happen in my body. Initially I felt virtually nothing because previously all the 'handiwork' was high-tension, high-activity with no subtlety.<

You're right to recognise and understand the different approach to multiples. Pushing things along by willing things to happen or straining any part of the body's frame definitely doesn't work. It is said that multiple male orgasms occur in the mind, and that has been my experience. The mind (plus Valley Breathing) is the driving force - the body just follows - let it.

>It seemed to me that to have a FBO, I'd invite myself to go beyond the normal territory of feelings.<

And the KS protocol, when a degree of proficiency has been reached, will give you FBOs which will take you into regions of sensual pleasure of an entirely different character to conventional ejaculation.

>I can report that I have lost all feeling of compulsion - and no longer feel permanently tired!<

Mmmm. At eighteen months I'm still experiencing substantially stronger and more exciting orgasms even from day to day and I'm still wondering if there is any sort of performance plateau ahead. It's hard to believe that the crazy KS orgasms that I've had already can get even better, but they continue to do so entirely of their own accord. I marvel at their intensity and duration. This morning I had at least two hours of FBOs which, from the start, became progressively stronger until each orgasm's peak was lasting for a whole minute, dying slightly, and then repeating itself a minute later. Practically a continuous orgasm, lasting for about thirty minutes. This happens usually once each day, sometimes twice. Amazingly, I don't get physically exhausted. Once my brain has recovered from the excitement and I've got my breath back I feel on top of the world and start thinking about my next session. I hardly ever have an off-day now. It saddens me to know that I missed all this in my pre-KSMO life.

Maybe I've given you an inkling of understanding why I now rate conventional ejaculative orgasms at slightly higher than zero. Apologies for going on about my own affairs but I have to tell somebody occasionally. You just happened to be nearby at the time!

Keep us posted on your progress. We're all interested.

Mog

>Apologies for going on about my own affairs but I have to tell somebody occasionally. You just happened to be nearby at the time!<

Mog, No need to apologise! Probably along with others, I find it not only motivating to get reassuring feedback to 'good practice' on the path with the protocol, but ALSO to to hear about and begin to perceive what joy and other experiences may lay ahead from the perspective of 'the other side'.

More at the next level of experience...

all the best

'Z'

I guess I?m at the fine tuning stage?

I found myself searching through the forums looking at key words in order to optimise an aspect of my practice. E.g. ?Rolling? is a particularly good key word. As I felt this is central to the whole protocol and links very well to Mog?s post above?

I think my body was also telling me that there is a subtle difference between self-denial and self- control ;-)

My last KS practice session ended in ejaculation, but this was cool. I had wanted to reduce E+O to once a week and on the 8th day my body ?told? me it was a day overdue! ;-) Well, it was nice to learn from and pay attention to the specific feelings! :-D Reflecting upon the experience, the contractions appeared much slower - every part of the ejaculation played out in slow motion from my anus to the tip of my penis (how I imagined womb contractions to be actually). Sexual feelings (orgasmic energy) spread well down into my legs. NO vigourous stim was used - not much touching at all actually - but hey! yeah, still too much that triggered the prostatic reflex! One thing that surprised me was that it was almost entirely a mental action of direction from just before the PONR into O+E; there was a definite easing into the experience of Orgasm. Maybe there was some helpful breathing as well but I wasn?t conciously aware of it, although I did notice some individual muscle tics and more general trembling. Given the relaxing (and slower) circumstances, it was a good experience to do some sightseeing too ? just to remind myself what happens during an E+O. Plus it gave me an additional insight into Ron?s experience about staying on the protocol at that critical time.

So all in all, I felt there was some good lessons from the session. Today is a day off from any activity just to reflect and savour the experience (from echoes etc.)

More soon!

Z.

This post may seem off-topic and self-indulgent to some readers, however there is a connection with the KS protocol in a much wider sense from my perception...

A conversation with myself:

I picked up one of my many bought-yet-unread books; 'The Courage to Love' by Stephen Gilligan. He draws on some Bhuddist, Aikido and other traditions to harness the breath and muscle in order to relax with alertness and to centre, to use breath in order to transmute bad experiences into good and to locate the relational self between a somatic self and a thinking self within a wider field of being.

Who am I? may appear to be a deceptively simple question which can lead to the many identifications of a person. What did I find?

I previously shied away from any identification as a potentially psychological/philosophical dead end. Now though I can say for starters:

I am of X and Y (Chromosomes). One of many whom seek self-knowledge; I am one whom thinks about thinking and feeling - feels about feeling and thinking. Being conscious about consciousness... To be in balance and at times to be at one.

H'mm it sounds a bit lofty but its a start,


back to the simple protocol! :-)

Having found my centre, back to the practice notes...

Did my practice yesterday and reached a definite new level.

Majored on breathing and use of the KS with (new improved) rolling sound. I can feel the diffusing of energy away from the genitals and into the rest of my body during most soundings. The fine tuning plus re-reading of the notes/forums really paid dividends.

Listening again to the CD, I found that different parts of the protocol were emphasised - dependant upon the QUALITY and level of current practice.

I got quite giddy (not as a result of any breathing pattern) and felt VERY floaty with quite a charge of sexual energy. Plenty of tics, trembling and sexual hotspots (echo effects) - some almost painful - in my limbs. Spasms in my stomach. Hot lower back. My genitals were very sexual to touch with no hint of being over-senitive/near pain. (I haven't had that level of intensity for a LONG time). That place on the bottom of the visible shaft was VERY sensitive, far more pleasant than its ever been, less of being uncomfortable and more pleasurable.

It really helped to cut out the daily bash - which dulled the senses in all respects.

Not looking at the time, I probably went for more than 20 minutes when the charge dissipated quite quickly - probably a circuit breaker effect, so I wrapped up the session for the day - and stayed on protocol by 'warming down' and not 'going for it'.

Real progress, I feel.

Z -- that is the best news I've heard in awhile!!!
I am soooo happy for you !!!

Congratulations!!! I am grinning ear to ear and the
energy waves are just exploding with colors as I read
your beautiful post!!!

That is great to hear that you went back and read the
MOTP again too- I myself re-read it occassionally!!


JUST AWESOME!!! HUGSSSS

With Love, Light, and a Joyous singing heart...Have a blessed day!
Laly