zeitgeist - first of welcome to KSMO™/MMO forums!

As I was reading your beautiful post, I found myself smiling and nodding my head yes as alot of what you were saying 'cause 1. I've had similar sensations you've described and 2. The joy and happiness at hearing just how you are approaching your practice.
To hear that you are following the protocol and Jack's advice brings the greatest joyous burst of light and joyous energy.
Thank you for sharing such amazing and wonderous experiences!!
I look forward to hearing more. I have been practicing KSMO for 6 months.
A small bow to you and a hug !! Do not worry - I HUG everyone k. :-)

With Love, Light, and a Joyous singing heart...Have a blessed day!
Laly

Hello Laly *bows in return with a flourished wave of the hand*, Thank you for your kind and thoughtful reply. Your feedback on my practice is invaluable. It?s good to know that I?m on the right path, knowing that I?m getting the right sensations is not just encouraging but also positively affirming for my forthcoming practice. Several times recently I have managed to refrain from conventional ?hands on? knowing that something better awaits, something that I would not have dreamt possible until quite recently. This has had an affect on my other beliefs as a result - although the tangible effects are yet to be felt.

I would like to expand on my thoughts about the protocol. Having had experience of meditation has helped me develop a better degree of self control and self awareness. I feel that after reading the protocol and these chat conversations ? which seem to shout KEEP TO THE PROTOCOL!!!! It seems to be the best thing to do. In parallel to your kind help, Pan?s conversation about the specifics of what actually happens was VERY useful about where I?m headed. Some of the sensations ? some of which are new I find very difficult to describe and have to resort to simile and metaphor: its? like? and is?

My last session was not as zingy as the last one, however, I?m concious that sometimes one has to go back to go forward. My unconcious at least, knows what?s going on better than I do. So onward with the practice of the KS and corresponding sequence? I shall report back when I reach the next stage of perception.

So from me, a hug too, just know that you can be satisfied with knowing that your reply was deeply invaluable in so many ways to me; I know that your heart can sing many songs. May it start to find new voices, new ways of note; to find harmonies of new depth and diversity that YOU can so confidently conduct on your own true way of being.

zeitgeist- thanks-- hearing that today - I got the
greatest wave of rainbow-colored energy burst. I
smiled so big and I bowed to the screen and said a
silent thank you. My heart energy just went wild with
joy. *Grinning

"So from me, a hug too, just know that you can be
satisfied with knowing that your reply was deeply
invaluable in so many ways to me; I know that your
heart can sing many songs. May it start to find new
voices, new ways of note; to find harmonies of new
depth and diversity that YOU can so confidently
conduct on your own true way of being."

*Blushing -- thanks - that means ALOT!

I look forward to hearing more.

With Love, Light, and a Joyous singing heart...Have a blessed day!
Laly

:-)

So latest sensations...

After my last practice, about 30 mins, I experience several flashes of light internally. I don't know whether it was connected to the practise, maybe a discharge of energy?

Yesterday was a 'day off' from the KS practise, and time for a 'conventional'

Actually the experience was 'ok' but what was interesting was that I normally get several 'aftershocks' or surges of pleasure.

Strangely, I can NOW summon these little 'shocks' by influencing my breathing and internal control, even days later....Interesting!

WHOO HOO -- I am dancing with joy Z!!!!!

Those are what we call echo effects AND aren't they SWWWEEETT!!! :-)

There are times i get them and I am able to focus and expand them into a HEART-gasm. :-)

Congrats!!!!

With love, light and Joy,
Laly

Hey, this is is good to know, L!

My last practice was a returning to making sure that the key sound was produced correctly. I think my focus was probably too much in this regard, A good key sound was produced with that rolling quality, however, I think my body was having some down time and little energy was produced this time. Probably due to some emotional 'noise' from the external world.
The best thing to do was to listen to my body and not push it. Also to 'habitualise' the (correct) key sound and allow my uncouncious to work to it's own rhythm.

One benefit has been a large reduction of 'compulsion' of gratification and I can feel my body repairing itself after years of over-physical stimulation.
I know this from the internal signals I recieve from the genital region. Maybe there was a degree of ongoing inflamation...
A healing process in so many ways!

In fact I have better self-love at the moment through mental means and weak-signal recognition. Maybe some integration going on at lots of levels!

More soon!

Z

So my first furball hit me. A lot of emotion involved. It happened during a walk when my mind was in a fairly restful state and contemplating the protocol and attendant feelings. Totally unexpected and coming out of nowhere; I don't usually cry in public, but let it flow, acknowledging the emotions.. and the self reassurance. Phew!

It seems that I now carry around echo feelings with me a lot of the time. Like watching the moon on a cloudy night sky, every now and then, peeping out from behind a cloud, making their presence known.

I am concious also of that rolling quality in the middle of the key sound affects the torso musculature movement in a more regular way now I'm habitualising the KS itself. I am concious of the energy in the breath. 'Charge' is a good name for it!

My masturbation 'need' has reduced down to twice a week, I feel I don't 'need' to do this any longer, and I'd be probably be happy at once a week. The quality of orgasm has much improved, I notice it takes longer to climax and when I do, it is much 'sweeter' with no sharpness. Full sensitivity has returned to my genital area.
Interestingly, I notice echo effects along the way until I reach the plateau phase then they disappear, then make themselves known again during orgasm and then during the little aftershocks. It must be the sympathetic system masking.

I also made a connection that these echo effects were the same feelings I felt in my limbs during the handful of really intense orgasms I encountered during my life (I'm 48).

Progress!



As a post script; I re-cognised that I had, when I was much younger, foreseen this particular path. Of course, at the time I didn't put any credence or weight upon its meaning. I'd be interested to know if any other Adepts had similar foresight.

zeitgeist, thanks very much for sharing some of the tough times
as well as the triumphs.

You seem to be handling your opening process just right...

It's REALLY GREAT to hear that the more compulsive,
less satisfying patterns are extinguishing, replaced by
authentic enjoyment... Fantastic!!!

I hope you'll continue to share your story as your Adventure continues...

Enjoy!
Jack

Thank you Jack for your encouragement and feedback, it's VERY useful for me to know how I'm doing.

Since you have provided a model of how to get there, I reasoned it makes sense to stick to it(!) with a degree of discipline involved. I have found the forum particularly useful to appreciate the multiple descriptions of other people's experiences.

I realised after my first week that my body requires [unspecified] time to adjust or as Pan or Mog suggests; 'rewiring' so change will not necessarily happen overnight, Your advice to treat it as a meditation was useful as it diminishes any 'thinking' and any inner dialogue - save some affirming values & beliefs during the exercises.

So my adventure continues; Travels with delightful diversions along the way, with an open mind and growing curiosity!

Hi, zeitgeist,

>I realised after my first week that my body requires [unspecified] time to adjust or as Pan or Mog suggests; 'rewiring' so change will not necessarily happen overnight...<

It's only natural to wish for quick results and I was much the same when I started on the KSMO trail. Although I was given some pretty extraordinary new orgasmic sensations just within a few days it wasn't until about six months when I knew that I was definitely getting into the FBO league. But as I'm quite a lot older than most of the new members currently writing on the forum seem to be it may be that I took longer than is typical and that younger people like yourself might achieve the results they're wishing for much sooner. I would expect that.

>So my adventure continues....<

Yes, those are the right words! The KSMO trail, if followed enthusiastically and consistently is certainly an adventure. The steady climb up the ladder of orgasmic intensity and sensual pleasure is exciting enough but the very sudden, unexpected and substantial breakthroughs as new gates open which, for me, have occurred many times, are something else. After some weeks of gradual climb, something comes out of the blue which represents a major enhancement in the character and intensity of one's orgasms to the extent that one feels in a new and different game. These breakthroughs are still happening for me and I still start each session with a corner of my mind ready and prepared to take in new and different sensations.

>......delightful diversions along the way.....<

Yes, they are good words, too. As well as the opening gateways, some of the outrageous visions that suddenly jump into one's conciousness for a few seconds during the peaks of the orgamic cycle are truly delightful. The amazing morphing light and colours can be very surprising and they remain imprinted in the memory afterwards. Maybe you have experienced some of these already in your other pursuits. If not, you have some interesting "side effects" to look forward to!

>My last session was not as zingy as the last one......<

Yes, I know those! But they don't depress me any more. Usually, the next session, as if to re-assure me, is that much better than any previous.

>My masturbation 'need' has reduced down to twice a week....<

That doesn't surprise me. I hardly bother any more. IMHO conventional masturbation is totally boring when compared to a good and long session of KSMO FBOs.

Good luck with the furballs! (I've had more than a few!).

Mog