Zadok One I cannot help but respond to Tantrabear's experience with another man. I met a young man over the internet, though our common interest in energy healing. He is a student. I told him before we me that I was old enough to be his father. We met for lunch as strangers, but with our very deep common interest in healing, energy, metaphysics, and common life problems, we soon established a bond. He told me of one experience, and in the telling our eyes met, and engaged in a deep, loving exchange. We were in silent gaze for about a minute. I asked, "Do you feel the energy?" He replied, "Yes". Our gaze continued briefly. Being older, I felt I did not know how to handle it any further, and I broke the "spell". But, we left with a bond and a friendship, and an experience I will never forget. It was a real heartgasm, I felt intensely in heart and in the sexual chakras.

Dear Zadok,

Thank your for sharing your similar experience.

I wonder if you would agree with the following?

Society implies sexuality onto the individual and it is always limiting - whereas if the individual decides to step outside sexuality and instead sees themself as sensual, then endless depths open up to them. Simply put - sexuality always has limits, sensuality never does.

The notion of being with another in complete stillness and communing with this energy, reaching a point where individual physicality and spirituality merged so that in a sense a third being emerged, an energy complex more than the sum of the two individuals - this I am deeply interested in, but forums are rare to even discuss this and I can only offer my thanks again to Jack for initiating and maintaining such a forum.

Zadok One Tantrabear: Thank you for your response. I hasten to let you know that I appreciate your hearing what I have to say. I have had a number of experiences such as I related. However, until reading your posting on this board, I was unable to put it into an intelligible context. Thank you for listening and responding. It would be very helpful to me to be able to discuss further; perhaps we could e-mail an exchange of experiences, because, perhaps our particular angle is not of general interest to this board, although, until I discovered what Jack has to teach, I had no idea that it was possible, except that I do know profoundly that I have been searching diligently for many years to find it! I do offer deepest gratitude to Jack for his great offering.

On 12/22/97 2:10:07 AM, tantrabear wrote:

>Society implies sexuality onto
>the individual and it is
>always limiting - whereas if
>the individual decides to step
>outside sexuality and instead
>sees themself as sensual, then
>endless depths open up to
>them. Simply put - sexuality
>always has limits, sensuality
>never does.

I found this a very resonant concept,especially after the past few days, in which I managed to open up to this experience, or at least to something so consistent with what's being described that I quite honestly don't care whether or not it's the "same" thing... in fact, that's one of the things I'm finding so wondrous about this "new" dimension... each time, each sensation is profoundly different from the next, while each is ecstatic to a degree that was only rarely and briefly touched with ejaculation as target, endpoint and "unfortunate" companion to the orgasmic sensations.

I find that I'm experiencing every facet of daily life with far more pleasure, attention and clarity than I can recall, at least since puberty, or perhaps since my first EO.

The limitlessness of the sensation is so incredibly liberating, I'm sure it will take me a very long time to translate this sensation, even crudely, into words.

Thanks to all three of you for your posts to this issue. I'm really glad to see how you all seem to be resonating to the phenomenon of "Heartgasms".

This board is not just about "getting off", but about the exchange of loving energy, with oneself first of all, and then, once learned, with the rest of the world.

What you report as being more in tune with everything in daily life is a COMMON BENEFIT of learning how to open to MMO.

There is much writing about this in the chat transcripts...

http://www.multiples.com/chats/multi..._archives.html


I hope you will all continue to report your thoughts and experiences of these kinds of ENERGY ORGASMS, and how this experience is affecting your relationship with yourself, and with other men, and with women.

I LOVE the warmth you are all communicating here. THIS was the goal of providing this forum.

With loving best wishes,
Jack

Zadok, I would be glad indeed to communicate, but your present e-mail address does not register, have you an alternative I could try? Tantrabear

I have had similar experiences. I am a Christian, and the first time this happened was during a time of deep prayer. I thought
at the time that I had sunk to the absolute depths of perversion, but have begun to realize that this is an authentic Spiritual
connection (with God/and/or someone else) and doesn't necessarily have much to do with sex. Yesterday I was with a close
friend who is going through some really serious vocational and professional issues. He is a Christian as well, and it seemed
appropriate to end our time together with prayer. The energy flow was really present and the warmth and friendship was
powerful. Yes, I did feel it in lower regions as well, but this doesn't scare me anymore. I am secure with my physical relationship being reserved exclusively for my wife. I think that this level of male friendship is really healthy if you are not afraid of it.

Diver

VERY well said, Diver... thanks!
JJ