Hi Jack!

Just a thought:

I feel there is room for users to upload their Key Sounds provided they use a decent microphone.

1) Other users can hear a variety of Key Sounds. E.g. The KS of the 'adepts' within this community could add to the learning experiences of someone who has just started and looking to refine their own KS (this of course with permission and participation of said 'adepts')

2) Novice users can upload their Key Sounds privately for your online review (as an alternate to the Personal Phone Coaching)


Quick and easy for the tech savvy.. and also may encourage more users to explore the KSMO journey given the extra support available to them.

Cheers

Hi Lopez, thanks for this great idea!

Yes I can provide a special place in the downloads
area of the Introductory
Seminar, Male Multiple Orgasm Step by Step (4th
Edition updated for women as well).

Everyone who has purchased the introductory seminar
(and who therefore has posting rights to this Forum as
well) has the confidential address, username,
and password for that area.

What I will be offering is a new free service. This
will consist of the opportunity for people to log into
that download area where they will find a special link
that will take them to a page where they can do a
onetime upload of up to 5 examples of their sounds.

I will need a little time to have my programmer set
this up and will announce the service as soon as it's
available.

I will invest the time to listen to each person's sample free
of charge and will email back whether or not he or she is
articulating the Key Sound(tm) correctly.

Please keep in mind that only the truly correct
articulation of the Key Sound(tm) will ultimately take
one all the way to The Peak Experience of multiple
orgasms that are indeed way more intense than ever
experienced with ejaculation.

Not only are the sensations far more intense, but they
take one into a multiorgasmic zone that can last for
hours - really for as long as one chooses.

If the sound sample is not articulated correctly, I
will recommend personal coaching by phone. Note that
these coaching sessions often require only a short time
to help the person get their sound effectively
calibrated.

Personal coaching, including practice of the correct
Key Sound(tm) with additional feedback from me, whether
it is by phone or other means, is billable time, as
already described on the coaching
page. And I am willing to make the phone call to
virtually any land line in the world as part of this
service.

Lopez, please understand that to no longer charge for
that personal coaching would threaten my ability to
continue the extensive online support that I already
offer for free, including the Forum, blogs, and live
coaching chats that I frequently host personally, all
at my expense.

To my knowledge, there is really only one Key
Sound(tm)... (the one I discovered, that I demonstrate
in my seminars, and teach people here) that builds
arousal and awakens the readily-accessible
multiorgasmic response to the extent that I have
described above.

For another adept's descripton of these effects, check
out levingo's post from 2003 that roderik recently
brought back to the surface - a true
gem:, 20 minutes of non-ejaculatory orgasm followed by 5
minutes of ejaculation contractions.

To date I know of no other sound, chant, or mantra that
produces the effects to such a dramatic extent that
with correct articulation and practice of the true,
correctly articulated Key Sound(tm) does.

Yes it could be of considerable benefit - but it would
only be beneficial, rather than confusing, if I have had
a chance to verify that the arousal-amplifying Key
Sound(tm) has been articulated correctly.

For those who are in fact articulating the Key
Sound(tm) correctly, in exchange for my validation, I
would like to give them the option to donate to me the
publication rights of their recorded demonstrations.

I will use these recordings, along with my additional
commentary and perhaps some of theirs, as the basis of
a series of additional published training seminars. I
would very much appreciate such contributions to help
support and further the work that I do here.

Lopez, I sincerely hope that you will understand and
appreciate the necessity and appropriateness of my
policy regarding the services I offer to you and the
rest of our online community.

Wishing you all the very best that life has to offer,
Jack

That wasn't my intention When the idea came to me I kept your income stream in mind. I still feel that the above suggestion can be an additional stream of income for the company. It is a time effective way for the customer and for the teacher to perfect what needs to be perfected: the Key Sound.

To be more specific. Users upload a recorded version of their Key Sound. At cost to the customer, you can review and give specialised advice. You can call it: Personal Internet Coaching

To me the benefits are clear. Key Sound articulation is very important for anyone wanting to discover KSMO. With this option one could continue with their discovery with anonymity. The subsequent anonymity may encourage more to open to tutoring and open to the journey. And as I mentioned earlier, it could prove to become another income stream and could afford you some extra time efficiencies.

I think Laly summed up my point accurately.. there may only be one Key Sound but.. how its expressed will vary from individual to individual. Technique, volume and inflection may differ slightly.. If you dont think so then I guess we'll find out if others (adepts) choose to send you their articulations!

You are running a relatively inexpensive service for something so potentially great. It wouldn't make any sense to try and make it any cheaper. I'm sure most would agree with me here.

Oh and another idea.. if the "Personal Internet Coaching" idea gets off the ground, you could possibly bundle the service with the other packages you offer (http://www.multiples.com/orgasmorder/). I personally didnt understand how interactive this journey would become when I made my purchase. With internet coaching it could help introduce the new customer to the interaction that may be needed to get them to the next level (i.e. forum posting, blogging and forum reading).

I appreciate the current services you offer and am deeply grateful for how much time and mind you invest in the successes of others. I'm an ideas guy and am always happy to share.

(if my first name was Lopez.. I would be known as Lo-Lo)

Haha.

Regards,

Lopez

Thanks very much. That wasn't clear to me in your first
post.

This part isn't quite as clear to me.

I must say that to post suggestions about articulation
then waiting for another sample to be posted, etc.
etc., rather than phone coaching in real time would
seem to be very time consuming, be it paid or not, and
if paid, due to the extra time involved, could be quite
expensive.

Perhaps I'm still misunderstanding how this would work.

...by posting... where?

Yes it is. Absolutely!

There is anonymity vis a vis the online community, but
confidentiality in relationship with me, and that is
something I honor assiduously, as a professional Adult
Sexuality Educator and member of the American
Association of Sexuality Educators Counselors and
Therapists - www.aasect.org.

This is also true of telephone coaching.

I really appreciate your concerns about that, including
your concerns for your fellow community members!

That said, as I mentioned before, for me to attempt to
render in written form the correct articulation of the
Key Sound, without the person's benefit of my modeling
for them again in a manner they can actually hear the
difference, or my taking the time to model it, with the
time lags of the post-reply-post-reply sequences (known
as asynchronous communication) would be very time
consuming for that individual and for me, especially
since I already work 50 hours or more per week in
support of this site and this community.

My next birthday in May, I'll be 60 years old. I need
to be reasonable and prudent about my personal
capacities.

By contrast, the phone consultations (a form of
communication known as synchronous in contrast to
asynchronous), are highly efficient, not nearly as time
consuming for either party, and nearly always quite
effective, as attested to in our most recent chat by
community member: vamale4you.

Just a thought - re: need for anonymity in relationship
to me, versus confidentiality - are you by any chance
saying that this might be an issue for your personally?

I really appreciate your kind intentions on both counts.

However, as I mentioned above... in effect, typing
takes me a lot longer than talking, so I'm not
understanding how typing, plus keeping track of
continuity between the time gaps of the asynchronous
back and forth, would be more efficient.

Also, frankly, I really enjoy the opportunity to
actually speak with the individual - since we both then
have the opportunity to hear the quality of the other's
personality, etc.

In Marshall McLuhan's terms - asynchronous
communication is cool (not in the sense of groovy,
though - although there is some of that) while realtime
back-and-forth with all of the nuances of vocal tone,
etc., is hot, that is, very high bandwidth.

Yes there is some variation as to tone especially by
gender, but actually much less than you might imagine.
For example, you may think you are articulating
correctly, yet how do you know for sure?

That's why I am making the offer of additional free
time to listen to your sample - and to everyone's brief
sample to let you and them know whether or not you
are indeed within the parameters I know to be necessary.

Then to answer the question: How is it off the signal
line? What parts need to change? That will require
realtime back and forth between me and the individual
as they learn how to relax enough, etc. to bring their
sound into the requisite range.

I look forward to hearing from them! However even if
someone considers themself an adept, for me, the
question remains - what more might they gain by
articulating the Key Sound truly within the specified
range that I know for sure really opens the floodgates?

Thank you very much for your support in that.

It seems to me that my offer of free validation of Key
Sound samples (up to five examples delivered in one
upload) would meet that criterion.

Once my programmer has the area set up as I described,
then I will not only announce it and offer it to our existing
community, but include it as yet another benefit
included upon purchase of the introductory seminar.

Thank you very much for your appreciation - it does
indeed mean a great deal to me!

RE: Your being an ideas guy, I appreciate that as well,
very much! And that invitation goes to all members of
our online community as to how to improve services.

As I said in my first reply to you: I really appreciate
your bringing up this idea, as you have indeed inspired
and motivated me to create a new enhancement to the
coaching service, and have made it easier (i.e. free)
for all of our online community members to find out
directly from me if they are indeed articulating the
Key Sound correctly or not.

Thank you again, very much, for your generous efforts
and commitment to improving this learning experience
for everyone!

Wishing you the very best that life has to offer,
Jack

Ah... I understand. I was thinking more of a model where users could participate in asynchronous communication and then subsequently you could tend to the replies as a bulk process. I guess given the very personal and individual nature of KSMO there isnt much benefit from the bulk processing that asynchronous communication makes available.

60 years young!

Anonymity isn't an issue for me When signing up to the forums I actually didn't want to be anonymous and hide behind a screen name.. I felt it contradictory to the opening and honesty that I was to experience and engage in through the process. Hence why I've chosen to use my surname, Lopez. I'll also be engaging in synchronous communication with you in the very near future!

Well that's all from me about this idea.

Lopez.

Thanks for your understanding on that point!
Yes you're right! Thank you, Doctor!

I understand re: not an issue for you - that's fine, Lo-Lo

Of course, I want to give people the option, and in fact encouragement, to use pseudonyms as they do seem to help many if not most people be more comfortable to speak more freely about one humans' most personal subjects.

And I thank you for it again - it gave me that extra nudge - as I'd been thinking about offering a free validation of everyone's Key Sound and our discussion helped flesh out the structure of how to, ahem, allow it to happen!

I'll get my programmer working on that soon now, once he gets a few other tasks taken care of.

I'm really looking forward to the boost I hope it will give people in accelerating the benefits of their practice!

And I'm looking forward to speaking with you as well!

All the best,
Jack