Hi Jack,
I wanted to let you know there's a simpler way to get mmo without ejaculation control, holding back, squeezing and so on.
Read this:
"My technique does not involve the use of any kind of apparatus of any kind. My technique is based on a simple little trick I learned to do at the moment of ejaculation, which allows me to climax without the loss of erection. I don't have to do any of those things I mentioned above. I just go ahead and reach my climax and continue on like nothing happened. That is what separates my technique from all the rest. My technique allows you to climax as fast as you wish, and not worry about it. NO MORE FEAR OF PREMATURE EJACULATION!!
Most remedies found on the web are based on something like the squeezes technique, stopping intercourse all together, for a short while, pre-intercourse masturbation, to take the edge off your excitement, diverting you're attention from the pleasure of intercourse, pulling out, just before the moment of ejaculation, cox-rings, numbing jells, and on and on......!"
Great isn't it?
So, what do you think?

Hi Folks,

I checked out this guys website:

>Hi Jack,
>I wanted to let you know there's a simpler >way to get mmo without ejaculation control, >holding back, squeezing and so on.
>Read this:
>"My technique does not involve the use of >any kind of apparatus of any kind. My >technique is based on a simple little trick >I learned to do at the moment of >ejaculation, which allows me to climax >without the loss of erection. I don't have >to do any of those things I mentioned >above. I just go ahead and reach my climax >and continue on like nothing happened. That >is what separates my technique from all the >rest. My technique allows you to climax as >fast as you wish, and not worry about it. >NO MORE FEAR OF PREMATURE EJACULATION!!
>Most remedies found on the web are based on >something like the squeezes technique, >stopping intercourse all together, for a >short while, pre-intercourse masturbation, >to take the edge off your excitement, >diverting you're attention from the >pleasure of intercourse, pulling out, just >before the moment of ejaculation, cox->rings, numbing jells, and on and on......!"
>Great isn't it? Additional info at >http://multiple-orgasam-info.com/
>So, what do you think?

What do I think? I think if anyone, ESPECIALLY my fellow Adepts, are looking for a good laugh, they should visit this guy's website! He expects you to send him money before he'll even TELL you what his, "Ultimate Method," is! Now THAT's impressive.


;-)

Multiple orgasm without the loss of erection. That is the big title. I
am not taken with the language or with the style of presentation on
the site.

Less than 900 page views as of today, there is a counter at the
bottom, the site must be new, or is not popular. I don't know, the
selling angle is "performance" not "pleasure". To me, sex/
lovemaking is best experienced as "felt" not as "performed." It is
good to know about this site as it is "another method."

However, credit card orders are not accepted due to high cost, PO
BOX in Detroit, 3-4 weeks until delivery, the guy's profile says his
main interest is "link swapping." I'd consider leaving the message
here but removing the active link back to his site.

Who is Pete? Pete, what do you think?

>I'd consider leaving the message
>here but removing the active link back to >his site.

I think you may have a point there, Mike. I have mixed feelings about it myself. On the one hand, he's obviously just trying to use the Forum for cheap advertising. So why not just delete this entire thread? On the other hand, it sure does do a lot to show how much more Jack has to offer (and for a cheaper price no less!), not to mention how much more credible Jack and his technique are compared to what's out there.
At any rate, I'm glad I could share this bit of ridiculousness with a fellow Adept while this thread still exists! In the meantime, I'm looking forward to hearing from Jack on this one...

Pan :-)

Yeah guys leave it up 4 sure.

Any curious newbies please note that this guy is using the name of a famous person to post to the multiples forum?!

Inspire confidence? Seems pretty dishonest to me anyway.

Phil

Yeah, fairly obviously a spam, so I deleted the link.

[Hey Phil, WELCOME BACK TO YOU AND ANDI! I hope you both had a great, regenerating time in A-dam...]

I really like everyone's comments about this post.

I'm leaving the post of the issue though, more or less for "consumer awareness."

This guy was the focus of a single-subject study done by Dr. Beverly Whipple.

Basically, the guy can experience ejaculation without any refractory period, i.e., no "down time" until the next ejaculation.

Generally, the belief seems to be that this condition is genetically-based, which is the case for a VERY small percentage of men.

There's considerable skepticism as to whether the experience is actually learnable.

I think in his information he winds up right back at the old squeeze technique.

Oh, by the way, where is HIS list of testimonials, Adepts, etc.?

Did I miss something?

:-)

Jack

Hey cheers Jack, Amsterdam was wonderful thanks!
So this is the guy that the awful pseudo rutgers thing was done by eh? Max - right?

Yeah nice one for deleting.

Anyhoo thanks for the welcome back Jack, you would LOVE Amsterdam!



Bilko

"the awful pseudo Rutgers thing was done by eh?"

Hi,

I've been working on a general definition of MMO. Searching the web for variations in usage, I came across an account of the "Rutgers thing." There was a study of one subject, a 35-year-old man, who demonstrated "six natural and fully ejaculatory orgasms within a 36-minute time span with no decrease in erection or ability to continue. (In other words, with no male refractory period in evidence)"

That is unusual. And interesting in a way. But, from the web page seeking funding for more study of the male refractory periods, the researchers seem at pains to make of that one subject the defining example of MMO.

Here is a sample of their rhetoric:

"So what are TRUE Male Multiple Orgasms? Exactly as nature intended, and the same as it is for women: one natural (fully ejaculatory) orgasm after another -- without "techniques" and with all the same pleasurable contractions experienced by both sexes and that in men produce ejaculation -- yet without suffering any refractory period ("down time"), thereafter. Here, male orgasms are defined exactly as Nature has defined them.... no redefining the term "orgasm" to mean something it isn't."
http://www.multiorgasmic.com/truth.htm#tmmo

The only "techniques" they are aware of are the ones that involve going to the brink, then blocking. They write:

"...what of male "multiorgasmic" techniques? It is not the purpose or intent of this site to discredit or invalidate the techniques and procedures granting men greater sexual variety and capability within the limits of current male sexual capacity.... However, it must be acknowledged that all such techniques do in fact interrupt and interfere with orgasm and its full pleasures. And thus, through such techniques, men are capable only of mimicking, rather than experiencing, the actual multiorgasmic response resulting from the natural uninterrupted orgasms of female sexual capacity."
http://www.multiorgasmic.com/truth.htm

Well, having experienced the orgasm reflex without any going to the brink or control technique, I'm inclined to agree with much of what they say. What they simply don't seem to know is that there are men having multiple non-ejaculatory orgasms without control techniques and with intense pleasure. They had one subject. On this list, we have many.

Who will define MMO?

Bewell

Hi Bewell,
>
But,
>from the web page seeking
>funding for more study of the
>male refractory periods, the
>researchers seem at pains to
>make of that one subject the
>defining example of MMO.

That's because the author of the website is ALSO the subject of the Rutger's Study. He's simply self-promoting in a round-about kind of way.
>

What they simply don't
>seem to know is that there are
>men having multiple
>non-ejaculatory orgasms
>without control techniques and
>with intense pleasure. They
>had one subject. On this
>list, we have many.
>
>Who will define MMO?
>
>Bewell

Actually, the funny thing is the author of that website DOES know about KSMO and the completely different (and dare I say, far superior) effects of it's practice in comparison to the ejaculation control, and PC muscle-based techniques.

I know this because we corresponded at length over the course of several emails about 4 years ago. I made every attempt to explain to him how KSMO is completely different from all of the other methods he refers to at his website.

Each time, he would reply by thanking me for explaining how KSMO is just another ejaculation control method, the same as all the others.

Confused by his responses, I kept responding by offering more and more detailed explainations of KSMO, as compared to other MMO techniques, but each time he simply thanked me again for proving his point and verifying that KSMO was exactly the same as every other "supposed" MMO method.

After several exchanges like this, it finally dawned on me, that he was deliberately pretending not to understand the details of KSMO so he wouldn't have to acknowledge in writing that the entire premise of his website is based on limited data.

Not to mention, he could potentially lose his noteriety as the only "scientifically proven" multi-orgasmic man.

So, to answer your question, I'm sorry to say that I believe the definition of MMO will most likely ultimately rest with science and pharmaceutical companies, rather than the simple and effective, all-natural techniques like KSMO...
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