Please place your suggestions for albums and music
that others may enjoy during their solo practice here.

Also, feel free to describe these music selections
and why you find them helpful for practice.


Thank you for your contribution to the community,

Pan :-)

Hi Laly and Hlaser,

>I sometimes use the Ecstacy CD after a KSMO 20 min. session...<

I, like Laly, am a dedicated "Ecstasy" enthusiast. The pieces, both tracks 1 and 2 suit me well because, as well as being so seductive in promoting arousal and cosseting the old brainwaves, they are both an abstract kind of sound without any appreciable melody or rhythm. I find that anything with drumming or pronounced rhythm is a big turn-off! Moreover, I don't want to listen to any recogniseable songs, poems or anything from "The Best Speeches of Adolf Hitler" even if they were to incorporate brainwave entrainment(G).

But, seriously, I've always assumed that, apart from the initialisation into a newly-acquired entrainment piece they are most effectively used actually during a session. I use all my pieces that way using a small player and earpieces. I find that, played during a session, they will promote arousal, accelerate the arrival of the first orgasms and finally amplify the intensity of the best of them. Laly: {The Ecstacy CD just brings all that forth a lil quicker :-)} Agreed, Laly!

But I'm just a little confused, possibly in my innocence, that others, e.g. you, Hlaser, and also perhaps Pan (remembering a previous exchange of KSMO experiences I had with him when he seemed to express surprise at my session use of entrainment) seem to use them (and possibly exclusively) actually *outside* your MO sessions. We are all, of course, free to do with our aural aids whatever pleases us but I had assumed, perhaps naively, that it was taken for granted that their best and ultimate use was actually within sessions.

Am I on my own here?

BTW, I don't want to give the impression that audio input is an essential component of my MO sessions. I can easily do without and some of my most extreme events have ocurred at times when I had not been using it.

What about you, Laly - do you use "Ecstasy" within or outside your sessions? Or both maybe. Which of the two Kelly Howell tracks do you like the best?

Regards to you both (and all),

Mog

Hello Mog, HUGS


Laly is grinning...yeah those tracks sure a fantastic.

Yeah I agree...

" I find that anything with drumming or pronounced
rhythm is a big turn-off! Moreover, I don't want to
listen to any
> recogniseable songs, poems."


> But, seriously, I've always assumed that, apart from
> the initialisation into a newly-acquired entrainment
> piece they are most effectively used actually during
> a session. I use all my pieces that way using a
> small player and earpieces. I find that, played
> during a session, they will promote arousal,
> accelerate the arrival of the first orgasms and
> finally amplify the intensity of the best of them.
> Laly: {The Ecstacy CD just brings all that forth a
> lil quicker :-)} Agreed, Laly!

OH YEAH...sure does do that-usually with 3-4 min my
heart is racing and i am panting.

> But I'm just a little confused, possibly in my
> innocence, that others, e.g. you, Hlaser, and also
> perhaps Pan (remembering a previous exchange of KSMO
> experiences I had with him when he seemed to express
> surprise at my session use of entrainment) seem to
> use them (and possibly exclusively) actually
> *outside* your MO sessions. We are all, of course,
> free to do with our aural aids whatever pleases us
> but I had assumed, perhaps naively, that it was
> taken for granted that their best and ultimate use
> was actually within sessions.

Mog- to clear up your confusion...I dont use the
Ecstacy CD on the days the i choose to do A KS
practice- or while in KSMO practice for that fact (i
dont reguarly do a KSMO practice really-at least not
the 2-3 times a week like in the beginning or
suggested in the pfd file). I may listen to it before
a KS session- in the fact of getting my mind to relax
and not 'think about' anything. Once I feel the echos
starting I switch to the KS 20 min track and am off to
the "O". Or if it is late at nite (past 9 pm) and the
echos are just so fast or won't settle down for me to
sleep - I will play the Ecstasy cd track 1 and I
settle in my chair climbing ever so to a heartgasm.

> Am I on my own here?

No , you are not on your own!!

> BTW, I don't want to give the impression that audio
> input is an essential component of my MO sessions.
> I can easily do without and some of my most extreme
> events have ocurred at times when I had not been
> using it.

yeah , I can achieve KSMO with or without and music or
KS music/auditory stimulation= as well as without any
genital stim too.


> What about you, Laly - do you use "Ecstasy" within
> or outside your sessions? Or both maybe. Which of
> the two Kelly Howell tracks do you like the best?

I answered this in the above Mog. Before a KS session
if i feel the need to get my mind out of practice then
switch to the KS 20 track afterwards. BUT most of the
time it is outside my practice.

Track 1 is the one that really gets me 'revving' ,
track 2 is good - sets a nice pace for relaxing , kind
of like those 2-3 breaths in between each KS made.

> Regards to you both (and all),

And to you as well Mog-
Have a GREAT New Year!


With love,
Laly

Just been browsing thorough the threads here and thought i'd put up a few links so that anyone interested in the following music suggestions posted by forum members can purchase them.
Note - the links had to be edited for technical purposes. But the following albums can still be found at www.amazon.com


"Tantric sexuality" by Leora Lightwoman (Pan suggestion)


"The Mirror Conspiracy" by Thievery Corporation


Michael McGoldrick - "Fused"


Ekova - "Space Lullabies" (posted by Yomo)

With Love, Light and from my Joyously singing heart,
Laly

Hey mog and Laly,

just thought I'd throw my two cents in here.

Mog, you're right that I was a bit surprised when you mentioned using brainwave entrainment during your KSMO sessions. I guess I just assumed that most practitioners considered using things like the Ecstasy Cd during their sessions to be a form of continuous stimulation, and therefore off-Protocol.

However, like you said, we're all free to experiment as we please. And yes, I have also used the Ecstasy Cd during my sessions and agree that it can indeed be a powerful arousal and orgasm intensifier!

Of course, I think it's important to mention that I strongly believe that new practitioners should avoid combining the Ecstasy Cd with their practice sessions until they have become confident in their ability to enjoy multiple orgasms without any outside assistance.

In my opinion, it's usually best to first learn how to enjoy multiple orgasms without external aides of any kind because it provides the practitioner with confidence in their own, natural ability to give themselves all the pleasure they could ever want.

I do think the Ecstasy Cd can still be a great help for KSMO beginners when used at times other than during their practice sessions. For instance, as Laly mentioned it can be a good meditative "primer" before a session, or in my experience, it can also be a powerful experience to use after a session, or late at night, in combination with visualization techniques or Amygdala Clicking, etc.

Personally, I no longer combine brainwave entrainment with my KSMO sessions because as my practice continued to grow I eventually found that in combination, it's simpy too much energy for me to process safely. At this point, I feel that I gain the most benefit by using them separately.

But while we're on the subject, I thought I read somewhere that you had posted about using the "Gamma Meditation System" by Dr. Jeffrey Thompson. Is that right? If so, I would love to hear about your experiences and how they might compare with the Ecstasy Cd.

Best Wishes,

Pan

Hey Guys!

I find that the Ecstacy CD works best for me, after my 20 min. KSMO session. At this point in my practice, I always try to keep the KSMO totally clean and free of anything else!

Pan said: "I strongly believe that new practitioners should avoid combining the Ecstasy Cd with their practice sessions until they have become confident in their ability to enjoy multiple orgasms without any outside assistance."

I agree with this and at this point, I don't feel strong enough or confident enough, to mix in brainsync, Aneros, or anything else with my KSMO. I keep the Aneros on a different day, actually... (I found out early-on that I couldn't handle, the mixing of these!)

When I AM strong and confident enough, I will look forward to trying all kinds of experimentation with different mixes. It's in my nature and sounds like fun!

This is an interesting discussion, tho! Full of great info from you experts!

Later, Hlaser

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As you see tho- Pan said NEW practitioners Hlaser :-).

I dont use it the Ecstasy Cd with or while using the KS - just before my practice as i mentioned or on my alternate day - where is springboards to some AWESOME heartgasms.

laly

Hey Guys!

I find that the Ecstacy CD works best for me, after my 20 min. KSMO session. At this point in my practice, I always try to keep the KSMO totally clean and free of anything else!

Pan said: "I strongly believe that new practitioners should avoid combining the Ecstasy Cd with their practice sessions until they have become confident in their ability to enjoy multiple orgasms without any outside assistance."

I agree with this and at this point, I don't feel strong enough or confident enough, to mix in brainsync, Aneros, or anything else with my KSMO. I keep the Aneros on a different day, actually... (I found out early-on that I couldn't handle, the mixing of these!)

When I AM strong and confident enough, I will look forward to trying all kinds of experimentation with different mixes. It's in my nature and sounds like fun!

This is an interesting discussion, tho! Full of great info from you experts!

Later, Hlaser

With Love, Light, and*a Joyous singing heart...Have a blessed day!
Laly
*

Hello again, Laly!

I guess I am not exactly a NEW practitioner, Laly, but compared to people like Pan, Mog, Z and yourself, I have alot fewer miles on my journey's road...

You Guys are what I aspire to be in the future, so I feel that if I mix my pleasures at this point in my journey, some of them may cancel each other out?

Doing Aneros and KSMO on the same day did this to me in the beginning of my KSMO. I was proficient with the Anerose, as I had over a year of experience, but the KSMO was new.

As soon as I started doing them on different days(recomended by Jack), I had my first KSMO only FBMO! So, I guess I am a little gun-shy about mixing my peasures, right now?

Make sense?

Right now, I am going thru a strange period, where my O's are different in some ways! The "intensity has lessened", but I am having interesting vibrations and in various locations. Can't really explain it yet?

Maybe it is this "dry spell" or what ever the term is, that people talk about? I am hoping it is just my body taking on new information and experiences and re-grouping for a higher plateau of experience!

Or building new receptors on my neural net... An idea from the "What the Bleep Do We Know" movie! Any one seen this movie? (NetFlix has it) Interesting food for thought about Quantum Physics, neural nets, peptides and the like in the human body... Check it out!

Any expert advice is greatly appreciated on how to get back on line after the protocol takes a strange detour...or the dreaded dry spell!

Later, Guys!

Hlaser

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Hi Hlaser HUGS....

No one was suggesting or implying the you were a NEWBIE to MMO. Pan, Mog and I are more experienced in our "journies".

Awww...mixing pleasures and feeling like they may cancel each other out?? Do you mean use of the Aneros and KS practice? Please explain this a little more. Do you mean at the same time, same day, back to back?

"Doing Aneros and KSMO on the same day did this to me in the beginning of my KSMO. I was proficient with the Anerose, as I had over a year of experience, but the KSMO was new.
As soon as I started doing them on different days (recommended by Jack), I had my first KSMO only FBMO! So, I guess I am a little gun-shy about mixing my pleasures, right now?"

That was a sweet feeling huh! And I can totally relate to that gun-shy feeling about mixing to two techniques. Mine was more in the fact that I couldn't directly touch the genital area. (which led me to use of a similar device used in Aneros, once I actually read that thread.


"Right now, I am going thru a strange period, where my O's are different in some ways! The "intensity has lessened", but I am having interesting vibrations and in various locations. Can't really explain it yet?"

YEAH, I can totally relate to that. Those vibrations and in various locations are what we term 'echo effects'.

"I am hoping it is just my body taking on new information and experiences and re-grouping for a higher plateau of experience!
Or building new receptors on my neural net... "

you just answered your question!!

An idea from the "What the Bleep Do We Know" movie! Any one seen this movie? (NetFlix has it) Interesting food for thought about Quantum Physics, neural nets, peptides and the like in the human body... Check it out!

Thanks...I just may do that!!

Any expert advice is greatly appreciated on how to get back on line after the protocol takes a strange detour...or the dreaded dry spell!

I can't really tell you how it'll work for YOU, but for me I did quite a bit of meditating, listening to the Ecstasy Cd (with NO stim - just listen for about 10 min- no more every other day). I also reflected back on my year of sessions and took a good HARD look inside and checked to see if any fur-balls or things of the like nature popped up for me. I tryed various body positions while listening to the CD - on the floor, in my chair, on my back, both naked and clothed.
The point is i NEVER forced myself into any of this. My 'vacation' from KSMO was voluntary. Did I miss actual practice - oh yeah...but in my heart I also knew that my choice was a good one.
My wish for you Hlaser- do listen to the CD =whether it is the KS one or the Ecstasy one WITH NO ACTUAL intention to the ultimate goal of orgasming...but to allow your body to just FEEL!
For me the past 9 months has been a real-eye opener for me. I have wept so much, delved inside myself more than I thought I could, Looked at myself , not as I SEE myself but how others see me. (i'll tell you that one was pretty weird feeling, but I did come away from it with a freer feeling and some of the stress i'd been feeling was gone).

HUGS - Happy New Year

With Love,
Laly

HUGS Mog...

No worries K. I knew that you were speaking from an Adepts or Veteran KSMO/MMO member's point of view on this. That is why I clarified this for Hlaser and the others.


"Let me say that I'm emphatically a firm believer in strict adherence to Jack's KS Protocol during the KSMO learning phase. Having successfully passed through that phase I can vouch for the importance of not succumbing to any temptation to jolly things along during a KSMO session or to employ any additional devices to hasten an end result. I'm sorry if I gave any impression that might cause some learners to try to take short cuts around The Protocol. I know that doesn't work because I've tried it myself too many times!"

We all, i feel, have come to that very conclusion in our KSMO/MMO journeys. That is why i said that actually RUSHING too fast can actually be a DETRIMENT to the practice and the individual's progress than a help or benefit, if you will.

"However, when one eventually reaches the grail of mammoth orgasms without limit the Protocol has completed its work and you should then be free to explore the orgasmic high ground as you wish. At that point along the trail one can move on from The Protocol. The new skill that has been learned won't go away."

I agree with you on that. ONCE you've reached that momentous point, then by all means explore other avenues.


"I do find that the use of aural brainwave stimulation during my sessions can heighten the experience substantially, particularly when, for me, it helps to promote a trance-like state of continuous orgasm."

Oh yeah...same for me. Altho the orgasms of mine are not all sexually based, I get heartgasms that sometimes cycle down and trigger the sexual organs below . If I am being too graphic, I apologize. Or sometimes the energy will cycle up through the brain and kick off some really awesome colors and bliss tears and shuddering occurs shortly thereafter.


"Thanks, guys for your reminders!"Once again..no worries - that is 'family" for you. *smiles

With Love,
Laly