This conference area is for posting stories, tips, and questions about using the incredibly well-designed Aneros stimulator!

It is designed especially for men, to stimulate both your prostate (prostate massage promotes prostate health!), AND your perineum (what I call the "Male Clitoris") at the same time!

A growing number of enthusiastic men are reporting that they are able to open to non-ejaculatory multiple orgasms VERY quickly,
when using the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger I teach in my seminar, along with
the Aneros.

By the way, an EXCELLENT resource I recommend highly is Jack Morin's excellent book: Anal Pleasure and Health. It's the most comprehensive, positive, and informative guide to this topic available.

To order just click the blue link on the black menu bar above, that says "Click here to order Multiple Orgasm Trigger audio seminar". That will take you to the order form for all of the products I offer.

Enjoy this incredible combo of the Aneros plus the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger!

And be sure to use this area to post your questions, comments, and stories about using this dynamite combo!

Hiya folks, I thought I'd try to describe my first experience with "Aneros" perineo-prostate massager.

First of all, let me just say that when I first heard about it, I was skeptical. I'm not normally inclined toward anal insertion devices. I've tried anal pleasuring techniques in the past as part of my Tantric practices and didn't find them very fun or effective.

But I figured if Jack recommended it, then it must be worth a try. I checked the Aneros support area that Jack emailed me right after I completed my purchase, read the testimonies from very satisfied customers, and printed out the "How to use the Aneros" section.

I went ahead and followed the instructions for beginners. As directed, I lay on my side with my knees drawn up in a fetal position, lubricated it, and inserted it slowly and carefully about halfway and allowed it to insert itself the rest of the way.

It felt surprisingly comfortable, almost custom made. In order to adjust to the new feeling of it, I simply relaxed and breathed normally for about twenty minutes. By that time I felt pretty comfortable with it and began the rhythmic clenching and breathing exercises by slowly and gently engaging my anus to full strength as I inhaled to a count of 6-8 seconds and then relaxing my anus as I exhaled slowly.

At first this felt slightly uncomfortable and sore-ish around my sphincter and prostate regions, especially at full contraction. But by about the twentieth or twenty-fifth time, the soreness was gone and I began feeling slightly pleasurable, massage-like sensations with the movement of the Aneros along the inner wall of my anus.

After the 25th time, I was ready for the next phase which was to gently engage my anus at about 1/4-1/2 strength and hold it continuously while breathing normally. I found this somewhat difficult, involuntarily letting go of the contraction periodically, but with the results I soon felt, it didn't really matter.

At first it was simply an interesting feeling, but as I continued, I noticed a building pleasure and a sensation like the need to urinate, which soon gave way to a slightly orgasmic, tingling sensation that seemed to start at my prostate and move out to my penis.

Eventually my anus began quivering which made the Aneros reverberate inside me in an extremely pleasurable way. When I suddenly, accidently relaxed my anus and the Aneros shifted slightly inside my rectum I felt a long, slow, explosive kind of orgasm I'd never felt before which lasted at least a couple minutes.

It felt something like my normal Key Sound Multiple orgasms, but it happened so fast it was wonderfully surprising and all this without the slightest penile stimulation or even a hint of an erection.

After taking this experience in for a moment I was more than ready to try it again. As I began to re-engage my anus, I was already more sensitive and aroused and after holding for a couple minutes, the quivering began again soon built into another, more powerful and slightly longer lasting orgasm that left me moaning and shaking all over, once again releasing hold of my sphincter muscles and relaxing into the pleasure of the moment.

I continued in this fashion for perhaps ten minutes or so, having one orgasm after another and an increasing feeling of constantly dry cumming in one continuous wave.

At this point I was ready for the final beginner's phase, which was to make singular, full strength contractions and release. At first it was just a tad sore again at the height of the contraction, but this soon passed as well.

The full strength contractions seemed to pull Aneros more fully against my perineum and prostate simultaneously, creating a whole new type of orgasmic sensation, which seemed to flow throughout my body as I released my sphincter and relaxed. This once again instilled uncontrollable shaking all over.

After trying this a few times I decided to try adding the Key Sound to it. So I would engage my sphincter as I inhaled, feeling that orgasmic energy building more and more and then would relax my sphincter and let out the pleasure with my Key Sound simultaneously.

The Key Sound seemed to release this new kind of orgasm all over my body and increase the sensitivity in the area of my prostate to the slightest movement of the Aneros. It was however, a little difficult to make the Key Sound properly while lying on my side, but the orgasms kept coming none-the-less. And it sure felt good just trying it!

By now prostatic fluid (non-ejaculatory) was dripping almost continuously from my penis and I simply felt like I was constantly cumming in waves, both little and big.

Also, I was able to experience different kind of orgasms by alternating how I engaged my sphincter. By holding it gently for extended periods, I would have quivering anal orgasms, by making stronger contractions, I had prostatic orgasms and sometimes combinations of the two. It was easy to control the Aneros and its orgasmic effects with different contractions for different lengths of time.

I continued playing with it in this way, having orgasm after orgasm for a total of an hour.

Removing it was easy and afterwards I felt like my entire uro-genital tract had gotten a really good workout without any soreness.

Even a few hours later, I was able to re-experience little echo-orgasms by simply making the Key Sound periodically!

All-in-all, I wasn't just impressed with the Aneros, I was amazed!

Just when I thought I had tried everything with the Key Sound, I have a whole new world of pleasure to explore.

Thanks Jack! You've done it again

I'm really looking forward to seeing what other pleasures the Aneros can bring to my MMO practice. And I can't wait to see what other MMO practitioners have to say about using the Key Sound with it.

BTW to order the Aneros, click here

Hi, Pan,

Nice to hear from you again.

As an almost-two-year adept at the KSMO and also an occasional user of the Aneros I was most interested to read your account of your first encounter with the device. I would judge that the quick success that you achieved was very dependent upon your long experience of the KSMO which has tuned up your orgasmic skills and sensitivity to a high pitch. I don't imagine that a complete newcomer to the Aneros without prior experience of the KSMO would be able to expect to derive such instant results. However, it's good to hear of your enthusiasm for the device and the evidence of the compatibility of the KSMO and the Aneros.

My main practice is firmly rooted in the KSMO, with occasional use of the Aneros, and I know that the character and intensity of my MMOs are very different when it is used. Generally I find that the erotic excitement that arises almost immediately upon insertion of the Aneros does accelerate greatly the arrival of the first orgasmic effects when embarking upon a session so where time might be limited there can be a definite usefulness there. But, negatively, as the session progresses and the intensity of the feelings strengthens I get an increasing desire, which becomes harder and harder to resist, to indulge in a conventional ejaculative end result. If I succumb to this temptation the session is effectively, for me at least, terminated. I'm then left with a feeling of disappointment that I didn't really want to do that and I've let myself down and that the session could have been a longer one.

However, I can't say that the actual overall enjoyment I get from a session with the Aneros is, in retrospect, that much greater than in a straight KSMO one. This might be due to the fact of my deriving such amazing experiences from my purely KSMO sessions that I feel that while I might get some different results from developing my Aneros skills they could not possibly be any better or more satisfying. The KSMO gives me long series of the most extreme mind-bending orgasms of which, once I get going, I can surf along their crests for as long as I want. Some of the best and most delightful heartgasms black out my vision and send me close to bottling out in a flat panic. I feel, at this time, that the KSMO gives me all that my soggy little brain is likely to be able to handle.

But, on mulling over your post, maybe I'm missing something and I should give more time to my Aneros practice so as to explore further its possibilities. I think I'll do that.

Which version of the Aneros were you using? I have all the current versions and, again, they all produce subtly different orgasmic sensations for me but it's hard to say that any one is any better than the others in terms of resulting orgasmic intensity.

Keep us updated on your Aneros exploration.

Best,

Mog

>Hi, Pan,
>
>Nice to hear from you again.

Hey Mog!

Thanks, it?s great to be able to post again after such a long time.

>
>As an almost-two-year adept at
>the KSMO and also an
>occasional user of the Aneros
>I was most interested to read
>your account of your first
>encounter with the device. I
>would judge that the quick
>success that you achieved was
>very dependent upon your long
>experience of the KSMO which
>has tuned up your orgasmic
>skills and sensitivity to a
>high pitch.

Well, I should probably first explain that I actually posted the above description of my first Aneros session about 6 years ago. It?s just been re-posted and so it appears to be a recent addition when in fact, it?s from somewhere around the year 2000. I began my KSMO practice in 1999 so I had actually only been multi-orgasmic for about 5 months when I first tried the Aneros. I suppose you could say I was still somewhat new to the realm of MMO?s at the time.

Having said that, I believe that just those first few months of experiencing multiple orgasms in my KSMO practice were more than enough to dramatically improve the way in which I was able to enjoy the Aneros. In fact, knowing what I know now, I think there?s a good chance that if I had tried the Aneros before learning KSMO, I might not have even derived much pleasure from that first session at all and probably would not have pursued it much further.

To me that?s just part of the magic of KSMO! It seems to enhance and amplify almost any pathway to sexual pleasure. I?m certainly convinced that learning KSMO made it easier for me to experience multiple orgasms through Amygdala Clicking, as well as Self-Hypnosis and Brainwave Entrainment, not to mention how it made many of the Tantric practices that I had given up on in the past suddenly much easier to understand and utilize.


I don't imagine
>that a complete newcomer to
>the Aneros without prior
>experience of the KSMO would
>be able to expect to derive
>such instant results.

Well, I?ve spent a lot of time at the Aneros Forum over the years and from what I?ve seen, I have to agree with you.

Every once in awhile someone appears to, ?win the lottery,? over there and experience multiple orgasms on their very time with the Aneros, without any kind of prior MMO training. But mostly, it seems to me that trying to become multi-orgasmic by using a device is like putting the cart before the horse. I just feel that orgasmic self-satisfaction is something that comes from within, and once learned, can be shared and applied in a myriad of ways, including the Aneros. But starting with a device as the ?source,? of one?s pleasure seems more to me like giving away one?s own natural abilities, rather than enhancing them.



>However, it's good to hear of
>your enthusiasm for the device
>and the evidence of the
>compatibility of the KSMO and
>the Aneros.

Oh absolutely! I believe they are a match made in heaven! LOL! But then again, I think KSMO is the perfect compliment to virtually any pleasure-seeking activity...

>
>My main practice is firmly
>rooted in the KSMO, with
>occasional use of the Aneros,
>and I know that the character
>and intensity of my MMOs are
>very different when it is
>used. Generally I find that
>the erotic excitement that
>arises almost immediately upon
>insertion of the Aneros does
>accelerate greatly the arrival
>of the first orgasmic effects
>when embarking upon a session
>so where time might be limited
>there can be a definite
>usefulness there.

Oh that?s interesting. Personally, although my very first Aneros session did have a kind of instant-arousal aspect to it, after that for some reason I found that in general, my regular KSMO sessions tend to go by much more quickly than my Aneros sessions.

Usually, in my regular KSMO sessions, I will enter a multi-orgasmic state very quickly, within a few minutes or so, and tend to plateau after around 45-90 minutes. When I use the Aneros, or a similar prostate stimulation device, I tend to have a slower build towards full-blown multiple orgasms, but once I?m in that state, I will most often feel compelled to continue for at least 3 hours and sometimes as long as 5 or more.

As you mentioned, the Aneros orgasms seem to have a certain character and intensity to them. For me, it?s a specific feeling of ?dry ejaculating,? that becomes far more amplified in my Aneros sessions than in my typical KSMO sessions. And there?s something about that sensation that I find almost addictive in a way. For some reason, once I start experiencing those wonderful contractions, I feel compelled to keep going and going until I am utterly exhausted. LOL!

With my regular KSMO sessions, the feelings are much more full-bodied, energetic, emotional and spiritual. I tend to reach wonderful peaks of pleasure and satisfaction very quickly, so I rarely feel any desire to continue for much longer than a couple hours in a regular session.

As much as I enjoy the Aneros and other prostate stimulators, I only use them on rare occasions when I can really devote a good part of my day to it. For me, it?s my regular KSMO sessions that make for good MMO ?quickies.?


But,
>negatively, as the session
>progresses and the intensity
>of the feelings strengthens I
>get an increasing desire,
>which becomes harder and
>harder to resist, to indulge
>in a conventional ejaculative
>end result.

In my experience, The Aneros tends to focus one?s energy more acutely around the prostate and genitals unlike the more full-bodied, ethereal ecstasy of regular KSMO practice. So the Aneros may tend to create a feeling of ?building ejaculatory pressure,? in and around the prostate.

I?ve often found that if I can relax and fully let go into those feelings, eventually they will culminate in the spontaneous contractions of a ?dry ejaculation,? and relieve some of that pressure. Over the years I began to realize that more often than not, what I thought was an urge to ejaculate, was actually just another impending dry ejaculation, a series of orgasmic contractions waiting to be triggered. And once I learned to fully surrender into those contractions over and over again, the desire to conclude my sessions with a conventional ejaculation was greatly diminished.

In my opinion however, the most effective way to avoid that building of pressure is to begin in a state of complete relaxation and maintain that relaxation throughout the entire session. The more relaxed my body is (especially around my abdomen and pelvic floor), the more easily my energy can flow upwards, through all of my chakras. This diffuses that feeling of pressure around my prostate while at the same time expanding the feelings of pleasure and orgasm over more of my body. And of course, the more relaxed I am, the more easily I can re-direct that sexual energy through my Key Sounds!

Also, I think it?s important to mention that, unlike in my original post, I no longer use voluntary muscular contractions of any kind with my Aneros. I?ll explain more about this further down, but suffice it to say, I believe that the LESS one consciously contracts the muscles around their prostate, the less urge there is to ejaculate while at the same time allowing the orgasmic sensations to be felt even more fully.


If I succumb to
>this temptation the session is
>effectively, for me at least,
>terminated. I'm then left
>with a feeling of
>disappointment that I didn't
>really want to do that and
>I've let myself down and that
>the session could have been a
>longer one.

I totally know what you mean! That sense of disappointment and failure is one I am VERY familiar with. And what I found for myself is that the best way to surpass it and achieve the experiences you desire, is to continue focusing on all the wonderful new pleasures and abilities that you ARE ALREADY experiencing on a regular basis.

Due to a pinched nerve in my neck, I have not posted here in months (and believe me, I have sorely missed participating in this wonderful community!). But I always take the time to read everyone?s posts, and from what I?ve seen you describe in your posts over the past few months, we both know you have already transformed your experience of orgasm into something that most men can barely dream of! Please take a moment to really think about that and then go ahead and congratulate yourself, you deserve it!

From what I?ve seen in your posts, you are STILL continuing to discover even more pleasure around every corner. Just remind yourself of that fact before and after each and every session, regardless of how they may end. Just remember to praise yourself for every accomplishment, whether big or small, and always focus on what you want rather than what you don?t want. I guarantee, the rest will take care of itself.


>
>However, I can't say that the
>actual overall enjoyment I get
>from a session with the Aneros
>is, in retrospect, that much
>greater than in a straight
>KSMO one. This might be due
>to the fact of my deriving
>such amazing experiences from
>my purely KSMO sessions that I
>feel that while I might get
>some different results from
>developing my Aneros skills
>they could not possibly be any
>better or more satisfying.

I feel exactly the same way! For me, it?s not about ?better? or ?worse,? it?s about variety. The Aneros has a very specific effect and results in a very specific type of orgasmic experience that I have a craving for once in awhile.

Of course, this where I find it so fascinating learning how to blend additional techniques and methods into my existing KSMO practice. For me, it?s a wonderful kind of game to take that primal, first chakra, intensity of the Aneros, and see how much I can soften and expand it throughout my body using the Key Sound, as well as Amygdala Clicking, Self-Hypnosis, Brainwave Entrainment, and anything else that may come to mind. I?ve used each of these individually and all of them at once, and it never ceases to amaze how many ways there are to experience ecstatic bliss!

I love each and every one of those techniques for what they are, and I?m always on the look out for more to learn. But KSMO is always at the core of it all, no matter how many ways I learn to enjoy multiple orgasms.

To me, KSMO is like that famous ?Yin Yang,? symbol. All pathways to pleasure begin and end within it?s profound simplicity. Literally every technique, method, device, or substance I have ever tried in my pursuit of orgasmic bliss has always been enhanced and amplified through the Key Sound. Somehow, the Key Sound always manages to be the perfect compliment to whatever I?m doing. It?s like the ultimate blank canvas on which anyone can learn to paint their own individual erotic self-portrait. And like a blank canvas, KSMO can never really be improved upon, only interpreted in an infinite number of ways.



>The KSMO gives me long series
>of the most extreme
>mind-bending orgasms of which,
>once I get going, I can surf
>along their crests for as long
>as I want. Some of the best
>and most delightful heartgasms
>black out my vision and send
>me close to bottling out in a
>flat panic. I feel, at this
>time, that the KSMO gives me
>all that my soggy little brain
>is likely to be able to
>handle.

LOL! And there ya go! I think that?s the true secret of KSMO. Where most guys (including myself once upon a time) come into this practice wondering how they can use it to ?control,? their bodies, and ?create? orgasms, the truth is that the more they learn to surrender themselves to process, the greater the pleasure becomes. And the eventual result is always the same, sooner or later, in one way or another, we become overwhelmed by the sheer ecstasy of the experience. The fun part is never knowing exactly how we?ll be overwhelmed! Some of us blackout, others see visions, others experience phantom tastes or smells. Personally, I tend to reach a feeling of ?ecstasy saturation,? like my entire body is a vessel that has been filled with so many sensations that I can no longer process them, like I?ve been pleasured to the point of numbness. That?s when I know it?s time to pack it in and call it a day!


>
>But, on mulling over your
>post, maybe I'm missing
>something and I should give
>more time to my Aneros
>practice so as to explore
>further its possibilities. I
>think I'll do that.
>
>Which version of the Aneros
>were you using? I have all
>the current versions and,
>again, they all produce subtly
>different orgasmic sensations
>for me but it's hard to say
>that any one is any better
>than the others in terms of
>resulting orgasmic intensity.
>
>Keep us updated on your Aneros
>exploration.
>
>Best,
>
>Mog

Well, I really don?t get the sense that you?re missing anything Mog! But I?m glad you?re still interested in continuing your adventures with the Aneros. I hope my experiences can be of some use to you.

To start off, I was using the ?Aneros Classic? model for my first session, which has since been discontinued. Their ?MGX? model is a modified version of that original design. I personally prefer and am currently using the Helix design, the only other Aneros model I own. But my impression is that they all have their own advantages and disadvantages. So I would simply recommend whichever model tends to feels the most comfortable for you and go from there.

When I made my first post about the Aneros, it was just after my very first experience with the device, and so I had simply followed the instructions given by the manufacturer. Since then, I have reached the conclusion that, at least for me, all of the focus on PC and sphincter contractions are not only unnecessary, but actually counterproductive to achieving orgasmic pleasure - just like in KSMO. Go figure!

So...I generally begin simply by inserting the device and then relaxing, usually distracting myself with some neutral (non-stimulating) TV shows or reading material for at least 20-30 minutes. Personally, I find that this makes it much easier to achieve and maintain a state of complete relaxation for the rest of the session.

Now, as for the stimulation phase, here?s what I do - nothing physical whatsoever! Everything I do with the Aneros is purely mental/emotional, except of course, for the occasional Key Sound. That?s it! No specific muscular contractions required or even recommended. Of course, you may feel an occasional urge to contract your PC or sphincter as a natural reflex, and by all means allow those contractions to happen on their own. Just don?t try to control the process in any way, or make anything happen.

In terms of position, I simply lay comfortably on my back for the entire session. I generally begin with some form of mental arousal, either by watching soft-core erotica, engaging in fantasies, or closing my eyes and listening to a brainwave entrainment program called, ?Hypnogogic Passion Extreme? by the Jerrico Effect (this is similar to the Ecstasy Cd by Kelly Howell, except that it?s a more intensive brainwave pattern, and actually includes some sexually explicit audio as part of the program).

Anyway, I make sure from the moment I begin to feel the initial sensations of pleasure that my entire body remains relaxed and that I am able to fully express my feelings through my Key Sounds. Any time that I notice the slightest tension in my muscles, or an inability to fully express my pleasure through the Key Sound, I simply slow down, breathe deeply, and allow my muscles to return to a state of complete relaxation. In my experience, as long as my muscles remain tension-free, the orgasmic energy will flow more freely throughout my body and accidental ejaculation is virtually impossible.

Now, essentially that?s all there is to it. Relaxation and fantasy are about 90% of what I do with the Aneros. I also use things like Amygdala Clicking and self-hypnosis as well, but they?re not necessary to achieve a continuous state of orgasm, only additional enhancements and completely optional.

Now if I specifically want to induce ?dry ejaculations,? (and that is usually my main reason for using the Aneros), I simply fantasize very specifically that my penis is being stimulated to an ejaculatory orgasm. In my experience, simply imagining that I am ejaculating actually results in the spontaneous orgasmic contractions associated with ejaculation but without any loss of fluid. The key is to imagine, as vividly as possible, the sensations of having one?s penis sexually stimulated to the point of ejaculation and beyond. The more vividly I do this, the more quickly and easily I can induce and maintain the orgasmic contractions.

As long as I don?t actually touch my penis in any way, this method rarely results in ejaculation, even after several hours of nearly continuous orgasmic contractions (it?s happened twice in the past 6 years). Often, as my sessions progress, the waves of contractions will continue for longer and longer periods of time (sometimes as long as 15-20 minutes or more). It?s usually at this point where all the initial focus on relaxation and expression through the Key Sound really pays off. As long as the muscles of my abdomen and pelvic floor remain relaxed, and I never actually touch my genitals in any way, it?s almost impossible to ejaculate. Of course, it also helps if the rest of my body is relaxed as well...

The only physical activity involved in the entire process is that once in awhile, after I?ve already been experiencing orgasms for a good period of time, I will lightly stroke my inner thighs, arms, or chest. I?ve found that this can feel surprisingly ecstatic when I time it just right. You may also enjoy trying this with a feather, a silk scarf, or The Rabbit Fur Glove.

Um, that?s really pretty much everything I?ve learned regarding the Aneros to date. At the Aneros forum when I am giving advice to men who are struggling with achieving ?The Super-O,? using the contractions I usually just tell them something like this:

1. Insert the device, relax and forget about it for 30 minutes.
2. Begin to fantasize or watch something erotically stimulating but do NOT touch your genitals. Remain completely relaxed throughout the entire session.
3. Once aroused, imagine, as vividly as possible, that you are being sexually stimulated to an ejaculatory orgasm.
4. Continue to imagine that you are continually experiencing one long ejaculatory orgasm (without ever touching your genitals) until your body spontaneously triggers the contractions.
5. Repeat from Step 2 and enjoy!

I recall this method worked for at least two members of the Aneros Forum who had no prior experience with KSMO, and had been struggling for a number of months at ?the edge? of the Super-O, but never quite reaching it. The were using the standard PC contraction method. After one session of simply relaxing and visualizing the orgasm occurring, they both experienced multiple ?Super-O?s.? In my opinion, next to KSMO training, it?s the easiest and most effective way to experience MMO?s using the Aneros. In combination with KSMO training, it?s even better. And if you add Amygdala Clicking it?s even better! And if you add Self-Hypnosis it?s even better! And if you try listening to this brainwave CD while you do it...

Pan ;-)

Hi, Pan.

>Well, I should probably first explain that I actually posted the above description of my first Aneros session about 6 years ago. It?s just been re-posted and so it appears to be a recent addition when in fact, it?s from somewhere around the year 2000.<

Ah Yes! Not that it matters - I'm quite used to being six years behind the times<G>.

Many thanks for your interesting and generous response to my post.

>In fact, knowing what I know now, I think there?s a good chance that if I had tried the Aneros before learning KSMO, I might not have even derived much pleasure from that first session at all and probably would not have pursued it much further.<

I did experiment with the Aneros for some months *before* involving myself in the KSMO and I can confirm your thought that it didn't really begin to show its inherent possibilities for me until after I had started and begun to obtain a certain proficiency in my KSMO practice.

>To me that?s just part of the magic of KSMO! It seems to enhance and amplify almost any pathway to sexual pleasure.<

Magic indeed!

>I?m certainly convinced that learning KSMO made it easier for me to experience multiple orgasms through Amygdala Clicking, as well as Self-Hypnosis and Brainwave Entrainment, not to mention how it made many of the Tantric practices that I had given up on in the past suddenly much easier to understand and utilize.<

I can't say I've yet had any experience of pure Tantric practice. But I'm a frequent and enthusiastic user of brainwave entrainment and I've also attempted to aquire skill in the Amygdala department. Regarding the latter I'm not sure that I'm yet getting much in terms of clearly recogniseable and demonstratable results except for a very definite feeling of being able to "will" a heavy sensation of "presence" at the frontal lobes. This seems to promote a sense of orgasm actually inside my head. I can't think of any better description.

>Every once in awhile someone appears to, ?win the lottery,? over there (Aneros forum) and experience multiple orgasms on their very time with the Aneros, without any kind of prior MMO training. But mostly, it seems to me that trying to become multi-orgasmic by using a device is like putting the cart before the horse. I just feel that orgasmic self-satisfaction is something that comes from within, and once learned, can be shared and applied in a myriad of ways, including the Aneros. But starting with a device as the ?source,? of one?s pleasure seems more to me like giving away one?s own natural abilities, rather than enhancing them.<

Very well put. I agree totally. It's a little sad to read of some Aneros beginners expressing their disappointment at not achieving instant results from their purchase. But I suppose that, when raw beginners, we all are in a hurry for results. Patience, as always, is the key.

>..........for some reason I found that in general, my regular KSMO sessions tend to go by much more quickly than my Aneros sessions.<

I get a time duration input into most of my sessions from the known duration of the various MP3 binaural tracks that I use, most of them being around 30mins. Time can play tricks in my KSMO sessions and many of them seem to pass amazingly quickly.

>Usually, in my regular KSMO sessions, I will enter a multi-orgasmic state very quickly, within a few minutes or so, and tend to plateau after around 45-90 minutes.<

Currently, that mirrors closely my own KSMO progress. If I have a second session up to several hours after my usual early-morning one I usually get into an energetic and noisy orgasmic state inside a minute, even without the Key Sound or any stimulation. Thinking back to my pre-KSMO days this is, for me, nothing short of incredible!

>When I use the Aneros, or a similar prostate stimulation device, I tend to have a slower build towards full-blown multiple orgasms, but once I?m in that state, I will most often feel compelled to continue for at least 3 hours and sometimes as long as 5 or more.<

Mmmmm - although I have done three hours of pure KSMO, five hours is outside my current experience.

>As you mentioned, the Aneros orgasms seem to have a certain character and intensity to them. For me, it?s a specific feeling of ?dry ejaculating,? that becomes far more amplified in my Aneros sessions than in my typical KSMO sessions. And there?s something about that sensation that I find almost addictive in a way. For some reason, once I start experiencing those wonderful contractions, I feel compelled to keep going and going until I am utterly exhausted. LOL!<

More work with the Aneros - definitely!

>With my regular KSMO sessions, the feelings are much more full-bodied, energetic, emotional and spiritual. I tend to reach wonderful peaks of pleasure and satisfaction very quickly, so I rarely feel any desire to continue for much longer than a couple hours in a regular session.<

Mirrored again! I used to find it hard to terminate a good KSMO session, rather like forcing oneself to put the lid back on a partly raided box of delectable chocolates. But now, after a couple of hours, I can easily stop, knowing that I can bring the multiples back any time I want.

>As much as I enjoy the Aneros and other prostate stimulators, I only use them on rare occasions when I can really devote a good part of my day to it. For me, it?s my regular KSMO sessions that make for good MMO ?quickies.?<

Mirrored again!

>I?ve often found that if I can relax and fully let go into those feelings, eventually they will culminate in the spontaneous contractions of a ?dry ejaculation,? and relieve some of that pressure. Over the years I began to realize that more often than not, what I thought was an urge to ejaculate, was actually just another impending dry ejaculation, a series of orgasmic contractions waiting to be triggered. And once I learned to fully surrender into those contractions over and over again, the desire to conclude my sessions with a conventional ejaculation was greatly diminished.<

Thank you for all your comments and thoughts about the use of the Aneros.

>From what I?ve seen in your posts, you are STILL continuing to discover even more pleasure around every corner.<

Yes. I never cease to be surprised when I experience an entirely new orgasmic sensation in my KSMO sessions. But what is even more surprising is the sudden, unexpected and very substantial intensifications of orgasmic feelings that, even after 22 months of the KSMO, are still frequently occurring. How far can I go down this trail, I ask myself?

>Of course, this where I find it so fascinating learning how to blend additional techniques and methods into my existing KSMO practice.<

You have a big range of implements in your MMO toolbox. But have you tried the "Slightest Touch" device for females? It works for males too! IMHO it's the Marilyn Monroe of the MMO world!

>Well, I really don?t get the sense that you?re missing anything Mog! But I?m glad you?re still interested in continuing your adventures with the Aneros.<

The MMO world is indeed a fascinating one and I hope to explore more of its branches.

>When I made my first post about the Aneros, it was just after my very first experience with the device, and so I had simply followed the instructions given by the manufacturer. Since then, I have reached the conclusion that, at least for me, all of the focus on PC and sphincter contractions are not only unnecessary, but actually counterproductive to achieving orgasmic pleasure - just like in KSMO. Go figure!<

Now that *IS* interesting! My experience has generally been that the most extreme MMOs are the ones which have ocurred with just the minimum of concious "input" so what you say does not come as a complete surprise. The less you do, the more result you get. Less is more! - I must try your method for myself.

>I hope my experiences can be of some use to you.<

Authoritative, lucid, rational and invaluable - Thanks again for all that information!

>...........a brainwave entrainment program called, ?Hypnogogic Passion Extreme? by the Jerrico Effect........<

I can't find a trace of this on the Internet. Is it still available?

Mog.

Check this out and see if it doesn't help you find what you are looking for.

http://www.dicksutphen.com/html/mind_electronics.html

Hi Polecat,

Thanks for the pointer. I can't yet find the exact item but there's some other interesting stuff there which is worth looking at.

Mog

>Hi, Pan.
>
>>Well, I should probably first explain that I actually posted the above description of my first Aneros session about 6 years ago. It?s just been re-posted and so it appears to be a recent addition when in fact, it?s from somewhere around the year 2000.<
>
>Ah Yes! Not that it matters
>- I'm quite used to being six
>years behind the times<G>.

LOL!
>
>Many thanks for your
>interesting and generous
>response to my post.

You?re very welcome of course!
>
>>In fact, knowing what I know now, I think there?s a good chance that if I had tried the Aneros before learning KSMO, I might not have even derived much pleasure from that first session at all and probably would not have pursued it much further.<
>
>I did experiment with the
>Aneros for some months
>*before* involving myself in
>the KSMO and I can confirm
>your thought that it didn't
>really begin to show its
>inherent possibilities for me
>until after I had started and
>begun to obtain a certain
>proficiency in my KSMO
>practice.

Have you posted anything over at the Aneros Forum about your experience? I bet it would help a few of those guys who are struggling so hard and getting nowhere...

>
>I can't say I've yet had any
>experience of pure Tantric
>practice.

I don?t know if what I?ve done over the years would qualify as ?pure? Tantric practice. However, I can say that since I?ve learned KSMO, I have gone back to delve into my considerable collection of accumulated instructional books and videos on Tantra, and have discovered that many of the exercises and techniques which I had once found so perplexing and/or ineffective, now produce wonderful results with little or no effort required.

In the past when I would read phrases like ?energy orgasms,??kundalini rising,? ?blending male and female energies within one?s self,? ?becoming One with your partner,? etc, I always found these concepts fascinating, but at the same time unattainable, like watching a documentary on the Amazon Rainforest, it?s beautiful to see on TV, but you know it can?t possibly compare to actually BEING THERE.

Once I became multi-orgasmic through the Key Sound, those phrases took on a whole new life for me. And suddenly they were more than just concepts, they were experiences that I could both understand AND relate to. In fact, they had already become familiar territory. (a good book full of Tantric exercises that an experienced KSMO practitoner can play with is ?Sexual Energy Ecstasy,? by David and Ellen Ramsdale.)


But I'm a frequent
>and enthusiastic user of
>brainwave entrainment and I've
>also attempted to aquire skill
>in the Amygdala department.
>Regarding the latter I'm not
>sure that I'm yet getting much
>in terms of clearly
>recogniseable and
>demonstratable results except
>for a very definite feeling of
>being able to "will" a heavy
>sensation of "presence" at the
>frontal lobes. This seems to
>promote a sense of orgasm
>actually inside my head. I
>can't think of any better
>description.

LOL! Yeah, I can?t really think of a better description either! In truth, I haven?t noticed much in the way of the advertised increase in intelligence, creativity, psychic abilities, etc, etc. In all honesty, I see Amygdala Clicking as a unique and wonderful way to induce, enhance, and maintain a state of orgasm. I suppose there must be more to it than that, but in all honesty, I?m already quite satisfied to use it as just another tool in my MMO toolbox.

;-)

>
>>Every once in awhile someone appears to, ?win the lottery,? over there (Aneros forum) and experience multiple orgasms on their very time with the Aneros, without any kind of prior MMO training. But mostly, it seems to me that trying to become multi-orgasmic by using a device is like putting the cart before the horse. I just feel that orgasmic self-satisfaction is something that comes from within, and once learned, can be shared and applied in a myriad of ways, including the Aneros. But starting with a device as the ?source,? of one?s pleasure seems more to me like giving away one?s own natural abilities, rather than enhancing them.<
>
>Very well put. I agree
>totally. It's a little sad
>to read of some Aneros
>beginners expressing their
>disappointment at not
>achieving instant results from
>their purchase. But I
>suppose that, when raw
>beginners, we all are in a
>hurry for results. Patience,
>as always, is the key.

Absolutely. I think that?s hardest part about being a beginner, trusting that the results are just around the corner. Then again, I?ve found that the hardest part of being multi-orgasmic is that the more I try to spread the word about KSMO, the more I end up sounding like an informercial and the less likely the person is to believe what I?m saying. I?m learning that trick is to let the people who are seeking for answers to begin by asking the right questions...
>
>I get a time duration input
>into most of my sessions from
>the known duration of the
>various MP3 binaural tracks
>that I use, most of them being
>around 30mins. Time can play
>tricks in my KSMO sessions and
>many of them seem to pass
>amazingly quickly.

I find it very interesting that you use binaural tracks DURING your KSMO sessions. I'd love to hear more about your experiences with that.

Generally speaking, I reserve my binaural CD?s (like ?Ecstasy? and ?Hypnogogic Passion Extreme?) for non-physical sessions, primarily based on Amygdala Clicking and Key Sounds. I usually do them either after a regular KSMO session or at night before going to sleep. The one exception being when I use the Aneros.

I have used some homemade monoaural (pulse) beat brainwave CD?s, which are effective without headphones, during my KSMO sessions in the past, but I actually found that they were a little too stimulating for me. I would start out experiencing an intense increase in pleasure and arousal but it often eventually escalated into a kind of anxiety state. I?m considering refining the designs a bit and giving them another go down the road.

>
>>Usually, in my regular KSMO sessions, I will enter a multi-orgasmic state very quickly, within a few minutes or so, and tend to plateau after around 45-90 minutes.<
>
>Currently, that mirrors
>closely my own KSMO progress.
>If I have a second session up
>to several hours after my
>usual early-morning one I
>usually get into an energetic
>and noisy orgasmic state
>inside a minute, even without
>the Key Sound or any
>stimulation. Thinking back
>to my pre-KSMO days this is,
>for me, nothing short of
>incredible!

Right on brother! I?m glad you said that, because it reminded me to take a step back and make that same kind of comparison in my own experiences since learning KSMO. It never ceases to amaze me!

>
>Mmmmm - although I have done
>three hours of pure KSMO, five
>hours is outside my current
>experience.

Well, it?s kinda funny cuz the 5 hours don?t really feel like a choice. It?s more like getting on a roller coaster that just takes me for a very, very long ride. I can choose to on the coaster, after that, it?s more or less out of hands! There?s just something very specific about that ?dry ejaculation? experience that once I start feeling them, it?s as if my body NEEDS them in massive quantities until I completely run out of steam.

Somehow, with a regular KSMO session, it?s just so much easier to walk away after the initial plateau phase. I think it has something to do with the inherent wholeness of the protocol. The Aneros feels almost ?lopsided? in it?s intense focus on the prostate. When I do regular KSMO, it feels as though every part me, in every way, is getting equal pleasure and satisfaction.

>
>>As you mentioned, the Aneros orgasms seem to have a certain character and intensity to them. For me, it?s a specific feeling of ?dry ejaculating,? that becomes far more amplified in my Aneros sessions than in my typical KSMO sessions. And there?s something about that sensation that I find almost addictive in a way. For some reason, once I start experiencing those wonderful contractions, I feel compelled to keep going and going until I am utterly exhausted. LOL!<
>
>More work with the Aneros -
>definitely!

LOL! Well, I hope you?ll keep us posted!
>
>>With my regular KSMO sessions, the feelings are much more full-bodied, energetic, emotional and spiritual. I tend to reach wonderful peaks of pleasure and satisfaction very quickly, so I rarely feel any desire to continue for much longer than a couple hours in a regular session.<
>
>Mirrored again! I used to
>find it hard to terminate a
>good KSMO session, rather like
>forcing oneself to put the lid
>back on a partly raided box of
>delectable chocolates. But
>now, after a couple of hours,
>I can easily stop, knowing
>that I can bring the multiples
>back any time I want.

Yes, that?s it exactly! For some reason, I still feel that same obsessive enthusiasm during my Aneros sessions.
>
>
>Thank you for all your
>comments and thoughts about
>the use of the Aneros.

My pleasure. :-)

>

>
>I never cease to be
>surprised when I experience an
>entirely new orgasmic
>sensation in my KSMO sessions.
>But what is even more
>surprising is the sudden,
>unexpected and very
>substantial intensifications
>of orgasmic feelings that,
>even after 22 months of the
>KSMO, are still frequently
>occurring. How far can I go
>down this trail, I ask myself?

How far indeed! As I recall, even Jack says he?s still discovering more and more about himself all the time!
>
>>Of course, this where I find it so fascinating learning how to blend additional techniques and methods into my existing KSMO practice.<
>
>You have a big range of
>implements in your MMO
>toolbox. But have you tried
>the "Slightest Touch" device
>for females? It works for
>males too! IMHO it's the
>Marilyn Monroe of the MMO
>world!

Awesome! I wish I could say I have, but in truth I just haven?t been able to justify that purchase yet (maybe for Xmas...). However, I?ve read all of your and B Mayfield?s posts about it at their forum and I?m very, VERY interested! Actually, I?m sure we?d ALL love to hear more about it, perhaps even in a new thread?
>
>The MMO world is indeed a
>fascinating one and I hope to
>explore more of its branches.

And I hope you?ll keep us in the loop as you continue in your discoveries.

>
>>When I made my first post about the Aneros, it was just after my very first experience with the device, and so I had simply followed the instructions given by the manufacturer. Since then, I have reached the conclusion that, at least for me, all of the focus on PC and sphincter contractions are not only unnecessary, but actually counterproductive to achieving orgasmic pleasure - just like in KSMO. Go figure!<
>
>Now that *IS* interesting! My
>experience has generally been
>that the most extreme MMOs are
>the ones which have ocurred
>with just the minimum of
>concious "input" so what you
>say does not come as a
>complete surprise. The less
>you do, the more result you
>get. Less is more! - I must
>try your method for myself.

Yes! Less *IS* more! Absolutely. I?m really looking forward to hearing what you think of the relaxation/visualization approach.

>
>Authoritative, lucid, rational
>and invaluable - Thanks again
>for all that information!

You?re very welcome Mog. And thank you for all you bring to the community!
>
>>...........a brainwave entrainment program called, ?Hypnogogic Passion Extreme? by the Jerrico Effect........<
>
>I can't find a trace of this
>on the Internet. Is it still
>available?
>
>Mog.
>
Ok, here?s the thing: I spent all week trying to get in contact with the manufacturer and he appears to have fallen off the face of the Internet. In the past, I purchased Cd?s from him at his ebay store, which could found by searching under ?brainwaves jerrico effect.? However, I have found no trace of his store at ebay.

He also has a website: www.thejerricoeffect.com

However, it has not been online all week.

He also has a yahoo discussion group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheJerricoEffect/

Which I tried posting an inquiry in today, but have not seen it on the board as of yet. I also sent out an email to the old ebay store seller?s address days ago, but have not received a reply.

So, at least for now, and as far as I can tell, the Jerrico Effect seems out of business, which I must say in my opinion is a real shame. Because, although a little on the eccentric side, I really believe the designer of those CD?s has a gift for inducing powerful altered states. I sincerely hope to see his products available again soon.

Sorry if it ended up sounding like a big tease. As far as I knew his business was doing well just a few months ago. I?m really curious to find out what happened....

As long as we?re on the subject, could you give a quick description of your experiences with the ?Digital Drug? Cd? Been mighty curious about that one!

Pan :-)

P.S. Thanks polecat for posting that link. I?m actually planning to purchase ?The Zapper,? tomorrow and will give it a go this weekend!

Hi, Pan.

>Have you posted anything over at the Aneros Forum about your experience? I bet it would help a few of those guys who are struggling so hard and getting nowhere...<

No, not as yet. For one thing I don't feel that I've yet explored the Aneros sufficiently to be able to contribute much to the discussion there; secondly, I could imagine that the Aneros staff might not take kindly to the promotion of an alternative "product" (grin). But I agree with your thought that some of those Aneros hopefuls might benefit from a little prior knowledge of the KSMO.

>But starting with a device ((Aneros)) as the ?source,? of one?s pleasure seems more to me like giving away one?s own natural abilities, rather than enhancing them.<

A little like buying a supersonic aeroplane without first taking some flying lessons!

>I think that?s hardest part about being a beginner, trusting that the results are just around the corner. Then again, I?ve found that the hardest part of being multi-orgasmic is that the more I try to spread the word about KSMO, the more I end up sounding like an informercial and the less likely the person is to believe what I?m saying.<

I get a similar feeling. Maybe some people think that I'm boasting or being hyperbolic when I try to describe my incredible experiences with the KSMO. How to convince people that these amazing experiences are real and, with patience, available to mostly anybody?

>I find it very interesting that you use binaural tracks DURING your KSMO sessions. I'd love to hear more about your experiences with that.<

In my innocence your comment surprises me. I simply had not given it a single thought! Although I first put a lot of hours into assimilating the initial brainwashing process outside my MMO sessions I now play my various binaural tracks as and when I can as part of my KSMO activities. Although I can achieve perfectly satisfactory and extreme orgasmic results from my MMO sessions without the use of my MP3 player I find that I get an enhanced level of mesmeric immersion which takes me that bit much further from the real world around me when I listen to a good binaural track. But I do find that the more neutral type of track (e.g. "Immersion" and "Digital Drug") which do not incorporate obvious musical melodies or the sounds of recogniseable traditional musical instruments only works for me. "The Hills are Alive with the Sound of Music" played on the saxophone (although it's a wonderful instrument), even with a binaural beat, would probably do little to enhance my sessions.

>I have used some homemade monoaural (pulse) beat brainwave CD?s, which are effective without headphones, during my KSMO sessions in the past, but I actually found that they were a little too stimulating for me. I would start out experiencing an intense increase in pleasure and arousal but it often eventually escalated into a kind of anxiety state.<

I've not yet encountered anything like that.

>I wish I could say I have, but in truth I just haven?t been able to justify that purchase ((Slightest Touch)) yet (maybe for Xmas...). However, I?ve read all of your and B Mayfield?s posts about it at their forum and I?m very, VERY interested! Actually, I?m sure we?d ALL love to hear more about it, perhaps even in a new thread?

Maybe when I've acquired a bit more experience with it (or them - I've just bought a second, I'm so impressed!). Currently the use of the ST during my MMO sessions greatly increases the arousal level and pre-orgasmic excitement and adds considerably to the overall orgasmic experience. Again, whilst I can achieve perfectly ecstatic and extreme MMOs without use of the ST I find that it can transform a "regular" session into a "de-luxe" one. The choice of the various sites at which the pads can be placed is important and gives much scope for experimentation. A pad site that I specially like is on the front of the stomach two inches below the navel with the pads spaced about two inches apart. With the whizz set to very slightly higher than the treshold of perception it's as is somebody is gently licking one's stomach. If you can locate the exact placement spot a small muscle under the surface is made to react and pulsate gently - this is, as some might say, something else! But I have to say that the results I can get with use of the ST might not necessarily indicate how a novice at the KSMO could benefit from its use.

Thanks for the gen on thejerricoeffect. I see that his site is coming to the surface again, gradually.

Best,

Mog

Hi, Pan.

> As long as we're on the subject, could you give a quick description of your experiences with the 'Digital Drug' Cd? Been mighty curious about that one!<

It's an hour long. But it's not in the least musical or rhythmic. So if one's preference is for humming a happy tune along with the MMOs this one is definitely to be avoided. On the other hand if one is looking for an enhanced mesmeric state in which to seek orgasmic adventure the "Digital Drug" does the business for me.

Its track consists of a sustained sequence of a mixture of tones with a pronounced harmonic content and a cyclic phasing or swishing effect which sweeps from side to side. The binaural content is discernible and the variations of beat which occur are discernible also. The sound level is sustained and reminds me of the interior of a large electricity generator hall. If the CD has no effect upon you it could be extremely boring. But it works for me in my MMO sessions.

Mog