Here's an email from "G" in the Netherlands, who just received his copy of the Audio Seminar Male Multiple Orgasm Step by Step:

Subject: Key Sound
To: Jack Johnston <jack@multiples.com>

Hello Jack,

There is so much to tell You that I don 't know where to start.
So It 'll be a mix of what has happened and time but things come as they have too thus ...,

What we are talking about the Key Sound, IS (I expirience) a Key Sound.
The things You are talking about, I expirience for a long time but I thought It drove me away from enlightenment.
Now I expirience these things WITH the Key Sound, my thinking becomes differend.
You ARE talking about chackra one ! If You speek of the area before the anus.
This was / is in me sofar that I can say, !! I lift of the chair (or couch or where I'm sitting) for several centimeters !!
Not always but...
I don't compare this feelings with a orgasm, ore more what offten happens.
I can't compare this with anyting at all ! But when I feel what it is ?? It is most plesurleable (fun).
Also I feel strong my chackra's 6 and 7, that means that the spirit is helping You (all feelings we have above chackra 3.
Also when I have this KS and I see somting I like to see (and its turning me on) the feeling from chackra 1 goes wright into my chackra 4 and that my dear friend is the HART chackra.
Also I'm glad that my chackra's are open especialy chackra 6 (the 3 rd eye between Your eye brows), You know where it is when You expirience it!! Because that takes away a lot of trouble.
Why??
Every chackra has its own latent Karma, when the Kundalini starts to flow (...) the Karma will come out (true) of the chackra and thats what gives the emotions etc. what MUST come out but don't feel plesent !! So You 've read this and know weve got a lot to share.
Many regards to all our frends and more love to. I know hope and so on, we'll keep in tuch.

Oh, if there is something for instance You don't understand Yel, let me know and I do more my best on the language ore what ever . Beye

On 11/30/00 9:34:00 PM, Jack wrote:
>Here's an email from "G" in
>the Netherlands, who just
>received his copy of the audio
>Audio Seminar Male Multiple Orgasm
>Step by Step:
>
>Subject: Key Sound
>To: Jack Johnston
><jack@multiples.com>
>
>Hello Jack,

Hello G! I'm glad to hear you received your copy of the Audio Seminar and are taking full advantage of the information!

>There is so much to tell You
>that I don 't know where to
>start.

I understand completely! You will find many similar posts here in the Forum! :-)

>So It 'll be a mix of what has
>happened and time but things
>come as they have too thus
>...,
>
>What we are talking about the
>Key Sound, IS (I expirience)
>a Key Sound.
>The things You are talking
>about, I expirience for a long
>time but I thought It drove me
>away from enlightenment.
>Now I expirience these things
>WITH the Key Sound, my
>thinking becomes differend.

Ah that's great! I am glad that you have reconnected with the positive feelings and benefits of the kundalini path to enlightment and increased contact with spirit!

>You ARE talking about chackra
>one ! If You speek of the area
>before the anus.

Yes! It all begins at chakra #1 and rises from there...

NOTE CAREFULLY: The purpose of the Key Sound is to send the erotic energy which tends to build up in the chest, BACK DOWN to the FIRST CHAKRA TO FEED THE KUNDALINI SERPENT AND AWAKEN IT!!!

>This was / is in me sofar that
>I can say, !!

Great!!!

> I lift of the
>chair (or couch or where I'm
>sitting) for several
>centimeters !!

Yes this is a natural response, similar I think to what I describe in the Audio Seminar as "The Bow of Pleasure"... the body's natural tendency to arch in this way as the arousal intensifies, and the Kundalini Serpent awakens.

>Not always but...
>I don't compare this feelings
>with a orgasm, ore more what
>offten happens.

Not "orgasm" that is ejaculation. But in English, what most people call "orgasm" is ejaculation... which as you describe also, is DIFFERENT that "orgasm" which are the intense waves of pleasure that may or may not occur WITH ejaculation.

I hope you will post in even more detail what these waves of feeling are like for you, so that others may be guided by your experience.

>I can't compare this with
>anyting at all !

Believe me, I understand that!!! :-)

> But when I
>feel what it is ?? It is most
>plesurleable (fun).

I'm very glad to hear that!

>Also I feel strong my
>chackra's 6 and 7, that means
>that the spirit is helping You
>(all feelings we have above
>chackra 3.

Yes... and when the Key Sound opens what I call "The Gate of the Thousandfold Pleasures" completely that non-ejaculatory orgasmic waves of pleasure that rush from the First Chakra all the way up the spine will flash all the way through the Crown Chakra to dance with the Cosmos!

That's why it is so important to identify the Emotional Furballs (refer to the Audio Seminar and to the posts in this Forum that talk about "Emotional Furballs) and release them... because they block one's ability to open the various chakras.

Once you can clear these emotional wounds, fears, tears, and shame, the Gates of Pleasure can open fully, and the fiery column of Light will surge from the First through the Seventh Chakra over and over, just by simply taking that next conscious breath...

>Also when I have this KS and I
>see somting I like to see (and
>its turning me on) the feeling
>from chackra 1 goes wright
>into my chackra 4 and that my
>dear friend is the HART
>chackra.

Yes indeed brother! I am glad you mention that opening of the heart chakra. So many men have described that feeling of new openness of the heart, and their changing attitudes towards their partners, towards women, and towards life itself.


>Also I'm glad that my
>chackra's are open especialy
>chackra 6 (the 3 rd eye
>between Your eye brows), You
>know where it is when You
>expirience it!! Because that
>takes away a lot of trouble.
>Why??

I would be interested to know your thoughts on that.

Perhaps Brother SkFu will also check in on that issue, as he has a great deal of experience with that.

>Every chackra has its own
>latent Karma, when the
>Kundalini starts to flow (...)

And it's own Karmic wounds to heal. The Key Sound and the pleasurable energy it awakens can help heal that Karma, those wounds.

>the Karma will come out (true)
>of the chackra and thats what
>gives the emotions etc. what
>MUST come out but don't feel
>plesent !!

Yes! Those are what I call the Furballs... like a cat who must spit up what it cannot digest. We must "spit out" the old Karmic wounds and negative emotions in order to open completely to the full Cosmic Joy that these kinds of orgasms awaken.

> So You 've read
>this and know weve got a lot
>to share.

I look forward to hearing much more from you!

>Many regards to all our frends
>and more love to.

Right on!!!

> I know hope
>and so on, we'll keep in tuch.

I'm very glad to hear it! I hope you will post here often.

And let me know what times in GMT and days of the week are convenient for LIVE CHAT and I will schedule a time that works for you and we will invite the others.

>Oh, if there is something for
>instance You don't understand
>Yel, let me know and I do more
>my best on the language ore
>what ever . Beye

You are doing great! My ability to speak Dutch is not yet good at all, so I appreciate that you are willing to speak English! :-) I appreciate it very much!

Also when you make a post here, after you press the post button, the words in your post that are in red let you know the words that are "misspelled" and by clicking on those words the dictionary will suggest "correct" spelling, before your final post.

Congratulations, and welcome!!!

Jack,

>NOTE CAREFULLY: The purpose of the Key
>Sound is to send the erotic energy which
>tends to build up in the chest, BACK
>DOWN to the FIRST CHAKRA TO FEED THE
>KUNDALINI SERPENT AND AWAKEN IT!!!

This was quite a surprise for me to read - especially since I have been pretty thorough in reading the posts on this board for the last month or more. I feel like I have missed a critical point!

My understanding was that the KS drove the power, if you will, *up away* from the genitals so that it could be released out and away through the body via the breath. The vibration of the KS "catches" the power and transmits it up and away. The passage of the energy through the body creates intense pleasure and is very healthy.

In the above quote you seem to be saying that the KS takes the sound "back down again" to the genital chakra and that this then stimulates the Kundalini to rise, or may stimulate the Kundalini to rise(?).

Is the pleasure of MMO as you teach it from the Kundalini then?

Does KS direct the sexual power into Sushumma and/or Pingalla (the cold/hot circuits through which the Kundalini is described as rising through to the crown)?

Or, is the pleasure from the "spreading around" of the sex energy over the torso, as the "edge" of that energy is carried up and away by virtue of the vibrations created by the KS?

Also you seem to be saying that power concentrates in the chest in "normal sexual energy buildup" and that the KS takes it down? Everything I've read/experienced points to any energy buildup above the lower chakra as allowing for more energy buildup overall - and decreasing "ejaculation urgency". When I feel most urgently the need to ejaculate I rarely experience my energy as being high in the body.

Looking forward to your comments.

Lionheart

On 10/30/01 1:25:00 PM, lionheart wrote:
>Jack,
>
>>NOTE CAREFULLY: The purpose of the Key
>>Sound is to send the erotic energy which
>>tends to build up in the chest, BACK
>>DOWN to the FIRST CHAKRA TO FEED THE
>>KUNDALINI SERPENT AND AWAKEN IT!!!
>
>This was quite a surprise for
>me to read - especially since
>I have been pretty thorough in
>reading the posts on this
>board for the last month or
>more. I feel like I have
>missed a critical point!
>
>My understanding was that the
>KS drove the power, if you
>will, *up away* from the
>genitals

No... The first path is down below (and including, but not concentrating exclusively in) your genitals...

Then the Echo Effects that occur in response to your use of the Key Sound correctly... the two parts with the rolling quality in the middle, as I demonstrate in the audio seminar... and used to express a larger-than-average in-breath that you've automatically taken in response to gentle erotic stimulation...

...then those Echo Effects may tend to start moving the energy up your spine.

That said... release all of your expectations... and instead let your body teach you...

Men are conditioned to think our way through challenges... Learn to feel your way through instead...

The clues are the Echo Effects... they let you know when you're on the path... if they fade, take a little break maybe, then come back and practice again... gently...

Nurture and cultivate the Echo Effects... they are the orgasms which will grow in intensity as you learn to maintain their appearance in response to proper use of the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger as you gradually increase arousal.


> so that it could be
>released out and away through
>the body via the breath. The
>vibration of the KS "catches"
>the power and transmits it up
>and away.

The Key Sound tends to send the energy
downward to the "Valley" of your body,
below and including (but not concentrating in) your genitals...

...then the spontaneous, automatic Echo Effects (that occur in response to the Key Sound when it's correctly made and timed) will start sending the orgasmic energy up your spine.

As many others who have learned this have described, it's like you're sitting in a bath tub full of water...

You give the water a little push... and wave goes over and hits the side of the tub, then comes back to you...

The push is like proper use of the Key Sound, the wave that comes back is the Echo Effect.

Just like in a bathtub when you learn to time when you push the water towards the side of the tub so that you are building on the previous wave that came back to you, you can easily make the waves bigger and bigger until you are splashing water out of the tub!

This is a very similar process:

Relaxation without attachment to the goal of "making" it happen "this time".

Gentle erotic stimulation...

Notice breathing change...

Use the two-part Key Sound gently as you exhale one of those larger than average in-breaths that happened in response to the stimulation...

Notice any tingles, shivers, any different feelings... usually pleasurable... that occur in response... These different feelings are the Echo Effects.

Gently repeat the above sequence, while gradually increasing stimulation.

Don't worry about whether or not you have or are maintaining an erection... (!!!!)

At this stage, it's not about erection... it's about feeling pleasure...

...and noticing the changes in breathing that result from the increases in feelings of pleasure (arousal)...

Breathing change... Key Sound on outbreath (with regular breaths in between... don't repeat Key Sound more often than about every 4th breath or so... if you rush, it'll slip away)...

Once again, from the top:

Slight increase of stimulation
Notice breathing change...
Gentle Key Sound on exhale of automatically larger inbreath (in response to stimulation)
Notice Echo Effects...

IF Echo Effects are present,
increase stimulation a little bit, and repeat the above cycle...

Continue to gradually increase stimulation, as long as Echo Effects continue to happen in response.

If they slip away, back off on stimulation, slow your breathing... maybe even take a break...

Clear whatever emotional blocks may arise, using appropriate means, including counseling if indicated.

Best source of counseling assistance: www.aasect.org They can make referrals internationally.


> The passage of the
>energy through the body
>creates intense pleasure and
>is very healthy.

Yes indeed it is... because it is the essential Life Force.

>In the above quote you seem to
>be saying that the KS takes
>the sound "back down again" to
>the genital chakra

and to the first chakra... to the base of the
spine... and down to your TOES...

> and that
>this then stimulates the
>Kundalini to rise, or may
>stimulate the Kundalini to
>rise(?).

Yes... that's essentially it.

Now let go of all of the thinking... and get into the feelings:

Gentle stimulation,
Notice automatic breathing change,
Use the Key Sound as I demonstrate
Tune into the Echo Effects
If noticed, enjoy them,
Take some regular breaths

Gentle stimulation (and repeat above sequence)...

As Echo Effects continue, gradually increase
stimulation... as long as Echo Effects continue to increase...

If Echo Effects subside, that's a signal from your "Inner Guru" to slow down... let go of pushing... let go of thinking... tune in to feeling...

>Is the pleasure of MMO as you
>teach it from the Kundalini
>then?

One could say so... but this level of philosophizing can really get in the way in the early stages... The important thing is to learn how to open to the teaching that your own body has to offer you...

Your body will let you know when you're on the path...

Your body will send you a feeling something like "Ahhh THAT's more like it!" when you make a Key Sound correctly...

Search this Forum on the keywords resonant and resonate and even on reson, also on Echo of course.

Your body will send you a feeling of tingling or shivers or some similar automatic response when you've made a resonant Key Sound... one that has the two-part rolling quality in it, is not too loud, is made with a relaxed throat, deep, sexy, sensual sound... and done so on the exhale of one of those larger than average in-breaths.

>Does KS direct the sexual
>power into Sushumma and/or
>Pingalla (the cold/hot
>circuits through which the
>Kundalini is described as
>rising through to the crown)?

I don't know about all of the names for the feelings, but when the Gates open at the higher levels of arousal, there is often an intense rush of energy up the spine and through the crown...

Read my description of my first time, detailed in Chat 077

>Or, is the pleasure from the
>"spreading around" of the sex
>energy over the torso, as the
>"edge" of that energy is
>carried up and away by virtue
>of the vibrations created by
>the KS?

I'm getting lost in all of your thought
processes, Lionheart...

Relaaaaaxxxx, dude... clear your mind of all
of the philosophies... you can do that later...

For now... feel... don't "front-load" the experience with having to have verbal
equivalents for everything in advance...

Let.... go..... :-)


>Also you seem to be saying
>that power concentrates in the
>chest in "normal sexual energy
>buildup" and that the KS takes
>it down? Everything I've
>read/experienced points to any
>energy buildup above the lower
>chakra as allowing for more
>energy buildup overall - and
>decreasing "ejaculation
>urgency". When I feel most
>urgently the need to ejaculate
>I rarely experience my energy
>as being high in the body.

OK... fine... whatever...

I'm not trying to "dis" you by saying that,
I'm just saying that I get a strong feeling
you're chasing your tail a bit... trying
to think your way through this...

Please consider just setting aside whatever that urge is to verbalize everything in advance and link it to everything you may have read...

You can always come back to all of that later... for now... unburden yourself of all of that and just relax, breath, stimulate, notice auto-in-breath, Key Sound on exhale of that breath, notice Echo Effects...

If Echo Effects lower, slow down,
If Echo Effects stronger, go slow, but gradually increase stimulation and DO as above...
>Looking forward to your
>comments.
>
>Lionheart


I hope they help...

Thanks for your questions!
Jack

Jack,

Thank you so much for your excellent response to my questions. I have taken far too long to thank you for your personalized response. You have hit my approach to things right on the head: cerebral with a strong desire/need for "knowing everything" in advance. I have been aware of this as an obstacle for accomplishing "physical goals". MMO is the perfect thing for me to attempt in this respect - it plays to my weaknesses and in breaking through to "Adept" status (whenever that happens) I will have learnt to feel my way through, as opposed to think my way through.

Good thing I don't get discouraged easily!

Thanks again,

lionheart

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