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I am always interested in other techniques as well and was wondering if anyone heard or tried a method called the Maxwell multiple climax? It doesn't sound very serious from the website but who knows.
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Yep, Jack, that's me.
As you know, I'm always curious about new methods. I'll let you know when I know more about this method. Take care, Romeo |
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Hi Jack and Romeo,
BTW, Jack the new forum looks AWESOME! I think I can help give a brief summary of the Maxwell technique. I purchased the Maxwell Multiple Climax DVD about 3 weeks ago. I happened to see a promo clip for it on youtube and thought it would be good for a laugh. And indeed, it's a very light-hearted and entertaining approach to learning the basics of separating orgasm from ejaculation. Really, this is just a variation on a very old theme, but to my surprise, it actually works! This is essentially the Maxwell Technique: 1. Masturbate with the goal of finding your own personal Point of No Return. 2. Learn to pause stimulation at your PONR, allowing your arousal to fade slightly, and then build up to the edge again. Repeat this process until you begin to experience spontaneous non-ejaculatory climaxes. 3. Begin to use to a few quick PC squeezes (as if ejaculating) right at the PONR in order to help trigger spontaneous orgasmic contractions. 4. Apply the technique to lovemaking. * I think it's worth noting that, unlike most Tantric/Brinkmanship methods, the Maxwell technique does not teach or recommend a PC muscle strengthening routine. The few PC squeezes involved in the method are designed merely to trigger an orgasmic response, not to control it. I believe this is why the Maxwell technique works for me where similar methods involving the PC muscle have not. So, how does the Maxwell Technique compare with KSMO? Well, first of all, the techniques are almost completely opposite in their approaches to achieving multiple orgasms. The Maxwell technique is based on using genital stimulation long enough to achieve sufficient arousal to trigger orgasms right at the PONR. So each orgasm must be timed to coincide with the PONR. With KSMO, orgasms are based purely on arousal, with little or no stimulation required. They can happen at anytime in almost unlimited ways. As for how the actual orgasms feel: In the Maxwell method, the orgasms feel essentially identical to ejaculatory orgasms, including spontaneous, involuntary muscle contractions. At the start of a session, they are barely noticeable, but as the session continues and arousal builds higher, the orgasms become far more pleasurable than a typical ejaculatory orgasm. I found the technique surprisingly easy to apply during lovemaking, and a wonderful new way to experience orgasms with my wife. So I guess I'll sum this up with Pro's and Con's: Pro's: 1. It's quite simple. After all, it's essentially just regular masturbation or sex with a twist. 2. Once mastered, it provides the sensation of ejaculating multiple times without any loss of fluid or arousal. 3. Since the orgasms are based on stimulation, they have an "instant gratification" quality to them that I find refreshing after 7 years of dedicated KSMO practice. Con's: 1. It's a very basic approach to multiple orgasms that only goes so far. This technique, while lots of fun, is actually kinda shallow. It's like Jack always says, KSMO isn't "McOrgasm." Well, the Maxwell method *IS* McOrgasm. It's the fast food of MMO techniques and as one might expect, you get what you pay for. 2. The quality of the orgasms is inconsistent. Some are earth-shattering, while others will just fizzle out, requiring another ride up the PONR slope before trying again. 3. Because the orgasms are based on the PONR, they are limited to the PONR. And in my experience, they eventually lose their potency as the session continues. For me, this process of "diminishing returns" tends to leave me feeling unsatisfied. Once again, it's like fast food - quick and easy, but ultimately lacks the deeply satisfying qualities of a good KSMO session. Conclusion: The Maxwell Multiple Climax Technique is a great introduction to MMO's, but it simply doesn't have the depth, quality, or opportunity for growth that KSMO provides both for the individual as well as for couples. Quite frankly, the orgasms, while fun, just don't compare to the profound, overlapping orgasmic waves associated with KSMO practice. The only real problem I see with this method is that it might ultimately serve to limit men's orgasmic potential by convincing them that orgasms can only be achieved through the PONR rather through arousal in and of itself. Overall, I think it's a wonderful DVD. It's funny, informative, and doesn't take itself too seriously. It's the perfect marketing strategy for a subject as awkward and intimidating as MMO's. I expect it will be very popular as the word spreads. Personally, I'm very glad to have learned this technique and to include it in my bag of tricks. But I have to say that, in the grand scheme of things, compared to KSMO, the Maxwell method is really just a side dish and not a meal in itself. As a final thought, I would happily recommend this technique to KSMO veterans just for a change of pace or for men who just don't want to know how deep the rabbit hole really goes. But for those who are still in the process of learning KSMO, I would strongly suggest sticking with pure Protocol before attempting to add anything new to the mix. Well guys, I hope this has helped shed some light on the mysterious new Maxwell technique. Please lemme know if you have any questions! Best Wishes, Pan |
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Woo Whoo Grand Master Pan!
When you check back in, you check IN! Thank you for you generous kudo about the new Forum, and for such an articulate and thorough comparison of the two methods. ... and thanks again romeo for posing the question. Hey readers, please consider going back to romeo's and Pan's posts and use those social networking buttons to let others know about this discussion. Thanks! Wishing you and your Ladye Faire all the very best, Jack |
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Hey Pan,
Based on your recommendation, I bought the Maxwell Multiple Climax DVD. I should be receiving it within a couple weeks. When I first looked at it, I thought it was a bit too cartoonish, but you mentioned that it is a light-hearted approach that doesn’t take itself too seriously. Perhaps I need to lighten up a bit myself! J I hope that you didn’t reveal all of the secrets to the technique in your post. If so, you may want to consider revising it to make it a little more generic. The way it is now, it may provide enough detail so that people might want to try and master the technique based on the info you provide rather than buying it. Like Jack, I’m sure the author wants to keep the details of the technique for customers that have bought the DVD. Otherwise, there won’t be much value to it (for the author that is). Like my Aneros sessions, I intend to keep the Maxwell sessions separate from KSMO. I’ve also been reading and practicing the techniques in the ESO - Extended Sexual Orgasm book by Brauer and Brauer that is mentioned on the Aneros site. Both of these techniques seem to be similar, based on lots of stimulation, but they still have differences. I just view them as another tool in my sexual toolbox. I experienced the briefest intense wave of orgasmic pleasure with KSMO a few months ago, but unfortunately it hasn’t happened since. Experiencing that is part of what keeps me going forward with the practice. I currently experience a lot of pelvic contractions and blissfull tingling waves all over my body when the contractions stop, so it’s not like I’m not enjoying what I’m feeling now, but it seems that I’ve reached a long plateau. This is also what I’m experiencing with my Aneros sessions. Without experiencing that brief wave of orgasmic pleasure, I can see why you might be concerned that some guys might feel that the Maxwell Multiple Climax is the only way to experience multiple orgasms. After all, it’s quick and easy. Hopefully, it will be the same for me! But I know that what I experienced during that KSMO session was more intense than anything I’ve ever felt before, so I want to keep practicing in the hope that I will experience it again. My advice to other guys is to keep your other practices separate from one another and value each for what they offer but realize that they are different. As always, I enjoy reading your posts here and on the Aneros site. I need to go back and re-read your “What does it feel like” post here on the KSMO site! Onthepath |
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Hi OnthePath,
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In fact, if anything, my hope is that when you see the DVD, you'll apply that same attitude to your KSMO practice. Because, in all honesty, I really do believe you'll get much more out of KSMO in the long run. Quote:
I struggled a bit with how to answer Jack's request for a "brief summary of the distinguishing characteristics of the method." I wanted to be honest and informative while maintaining a proper respect for both methods. But, as far as Mr. Maxwell is concerned, I don't believe I've taken anything away from him by discussing his technique because, by his own admission, it's not really his "invention." It's actually been around centuries, taught in hundreds of books and videos, and can easily be found taught on any number of websites across the Net for free. He just thought of an entertaining new way to package and sell it! My real concern was that practitioners of KSMO who haven't yet become fully multi-orgasmic would try to incorporate or combine the Maxwell technique with their current practice and therefore, most likely disrupt or hinder their progress. Like I said, each technique is essentially the opposite of the other, so they don't really mix well in my opinion, even when practiced separately. Quote:
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In his video, Mr. Maxwell explains that while some men will pick up the technique quite quickly, most will require several weeks on average, and this is assuming they are not spreading their focus among other methods and techniques simultaneously. Now, it's certainly possible that you may find success (as it's defined by Mr. Maxwell) with the Maxwell technique very quickly. However, my concern is that success in one area may actually hinder your progress in another. You may for instance, find yourself having trouble letting go of that "instant gratification" aspect I associate with the Maxwell technique in order to fully experience all that KSMO has to offer. It is my humble opinion that it's much better to master KSMO prior to other techniques because, in my experience, the secret to every other technique I've encountered (including the Aneros) is contained within the process of learning KSMO. Also, I hope you'll keep in mind that plateaus are quite common in any sexual practice (I've had quite a few of them myself!). And I believe they are often just opportunities in disguise. So my advice would be to re-examine your current practice and more importantly how you feel about your experiences. One thing I would stress here is that focusing on one great moment or feeling from a past session can sometimes limit your awareness of even better feelings, waiting just below the surface to be experienced. Quote:
I look forward to hearing your opinion of the Maxwell DVD and wish you the very best in all your practices! Pan |
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Thanks Pan for jumping in on what seemed, at first glance, to be just another "interesting" topic on an exciting forum.
However, as I read on, the wisdom in what you are saying jumps off the page. Again and again, you draw from a deep well of raw experience and keen self observation. Although this concept has already been said many times, on this Forum, the way you phrase your last quote especially resonates with me, "focusing on one great moment or feeling from a past session can sometimes limit your awareness of even better feelings, waiting just below the surface to be experienced." The KSMO journey, as you describe it, appears to be filled with unending fun, insight, and subtlety. |
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