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Old 20th September 2006, 10:39
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Hi everyone
This is my first post and I already have a few questions.

I have been using a Aneros for 10 months now without the success that others have.It was suggested on their site that I use the Key sound approach.
1/ After listening to the Audio about what to do do I follow the Key sound exactly? I mean do you expand it. As I take a breath and exhale with the sound it seems natural to expand it. Is this incorrect?
2/ By using the Aneros have I already unlocked some of the feelings associated with the Key Sound? ie tingling in the prostate, involuntary contractions. If this is the case how will I know I am doing the Key Sound correctly?
3/ I am addicted to the feelings I get with the Aneros even though I have not realised the super O. While learning the Key Sound should I stop with the Aneros?

Thank you in advance to any replies


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>Hi everyone

Welcome Puzzler!

>This is my first post and I
>already have a few questions.

Perfect! You've come to the right place!

>I have been using a Aneros for
>10 months now without the
>success that others have.It
>was suggested on their site
>that I use the Key sound
>approach.

Great!

You're starting off very well by getting into this Forum
right away!

>1/ After listening to the
>Audio about what to do do I
>follow the Key sound exactly?

Did you also download and study the pdf document:
The Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol Summary Update?

When you log in to the DOWNLOADS area - Step One of the first page
provides the link!

OR: Send me an email to jack at the multiples.com domain
with Puzzler needs pdf in the Subject Line.

THAT is the PRIMARY GUIDE for following the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol™.

>I mean do you expand it. As I
>take a breath and exhale with
>the sound it seems natural to
>expand it. Is this incorrect?

I'm not sure what you mean by expand it.

If you mean force it or push it, etc. Do not.

Just ALLOW a gentle, unforced Key Sound as I demonstrate
in the audio seminars.

NOTE: You can not make these effects happen!

If you try to make them happen, it will just take longer.

The BIG SECRET is to learn to relax and just NOTICE
the little tiny spontaneous Echo Effects to begin to happen.

NOTE: They tend to be very weak, subtle, and not particularly erotic
at first.

This is normal! - especially in the early stages.

It's natural to get impatient and to want to make something
happen - to get things going.

That is a trap.

I urge you to read some of the most recent Chat Transcripts -
posted here in the Forum in the Chat Transcripts conference.

>2/ By using the Aneros have I
>already unlocked some of the
>feelings associated with the
>Key Sound? ie tingling in the
>prostate, involuntary
>contractions.

Yes. The key concept there is that you are experiencing
involuntary (i.e. automatic, spontaneous)
sensations. That's a plus!

Now it's common to get a little impatient and try to make
things get bigger. It doesn't work that way.

Just the gentle practice as spelled out in the Protocol pdf -
over time - is what yields the strongest results the soonest.

>If this is the
>case how will I know I am
>doing the Key Sound correctly?

When you experienced the spontaneous little tingles
by practicing the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol™ without
using the Aneros (for now)
at least two out of the 3 sessions per week.

Be sure to practice the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol
no more than 3 times per week, with at least one day off
between each session.

The sessions should last no more than 20 minutes.

Don't expect big responses during the 20 minute session.

It's very common especially early on, that the bigger Echo Effects
first happen after or between practice sessions!

The practice session is just to begin awakening the response.

>3/ I am addicted to the
>feelings I get with the Aneros
>even though I have not
>realised the super O. While
>learning the Key Sound should
>I stop with the Aneros?

If you're feeling addicted to the Aneros usage, then
yes, set that aside for now. Use the Aneros only once or twice a week
[b]and for now make its use separate
from the Multiple Orgasm Trigger practice sessions.
>
>Thank you in advance to any
>replies

You're quite welcome!

Keep asking for help - every step of the way!

Wishing you all the very best,
Jack
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Old 20th September 2006, 22:11
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Thank you Jack for your quick response.

Yes I do have the pdf file and I downloaded the audio instructions.
All my questions have been answered apart from the one I asked about expanding.This was my fault for not explaining myself very clearly. What I am doing is long ,calm deep breathing so when I exhale with the Key Sound it tends to get expanded (longer than on your audio).
I take it this is wrong? Should I just take normal breaths and incorporate the Key Sound in one of those?

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Old 21st September 2006, 00:22
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" long ,calm deep breathing so when I exhale with the Key Sound it tends to get expanded (longer than on your audio).


Hi Puzzler... as long as you are not tensing up the chest or lung area before beginning the key sound...it should not make difference if you've surpassed Jack on the 20 minute training CD. Not everyone does KS the same. For me I find that I do not make KS with Jack but in fact just after he does his KS.

"I take it this is wrong? Should I just take normal breaths and incorporate the Key Sound in one of those?""

As i just mentioned - no is only wrong IF you are tensing up in any way - thus detracting or distracting your self from the practice. For me I take 3-4 normal breaths and with next one slowly exhale as I make the KS , and have one hand on my chest to make sure that I am making the Key sound correctly (chest and vocal cords should vibrate- and can feel that)

welcome to the adventure!!! puzzler.

feel free to ask if i do not make myself clear ok - HUGS

I agree with Jack on the Aneros - I used a slight variation of the technique myself (being female here) and understand just how addictive it can become and can also detract from the true KSMO practice. That is if so focused on the aneros - you may JUST miss subtle echos that your body is experiencing and thus letting you know what your doing is 'on track' .

With Love, Light and from my Joyously singing heart,
Laly

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Old 28th September 2006, 16:53
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Hey All!

I notice familiar names from the Anerose Forum here. Makes one feel a little more at home, since this is my first post???

I am an Anerose user of 1 year now and have many satisfying Super-Os (MMO, as they are called on Anerose Forum) However, during the last few months I have been able to have MMOs just sitting in front of my computer, sipping my morning coffee without any equipment or efforts on my part (PC crunches, etc.)!

Brian Mayfield and others on the Anerose Forum seem to have started with KSMO and later added the Anerose experience. Now I see a trend on the Forum where Anerose users are adding the KSMO method (as I have), to our MMO tool box, so to speak...

I am hoping to get a better control over my MMOs with KSMO training and hopefully enhance the overall experience???

I have the same questions as "Puzzler" plus a couple of my own. I can limit my Anerose sessions for now, to 2 times a week, but I have my "non-Anerose sessions" going on all week long??? (can't really stop these...) I did my first listening session to the CD last night and immediately got involuntaries and "P-Waves"!

Wow! Is this normal??? I know allot of the things you mention on the CD, I can totally relate to from my non-Anerose MMOs...

It's hard to figure out just where I started out on this new and exciting quest of yours!!! Do I just ignore everything I know and take on the mind-set of a complete noviceand move forward slowly or use some of what I already feel??? (probably can't stop these good feelings???)

Any input is very appreciated!

Thanx in advance,

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Old 30th September 2006, 02:17
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"Hey All!

I notice familiar names from the Anerose Forum here. Makes one feel a little more at home, since this is my first post???"

Welcome Hlaser99!

I am an Anerose user of 1 year now and have many satisfying Super-Os (MMO, as they are called on Anerose Forum) However, during the last few months I have been able to have MMOs just sitting in front of my computer, sipping my morning coffee without any equipment or efforts on my part (PC crunches, etc.)!

That is kewl!! Feels totally awesome - huh!! I myself experience such feelings as those - we here on the forum call them echo effects.

"Brian Mayfield and others on the Anerose Forum seem to have started with KSMO and later added the Anerose experience. Now I see a trend on the Forum where Anerose users are adding the KSMO method (as I have), to our MMO tool box, so to speak... "

Yeah, I just love that KSMO/MMO compliments so many different facets of life to enhance our pleasure to infinite possiblilites.

"I am hoping to get a better control over my MMOs with KSMO training and hopefully enhance the overall experience???"

Hmmm- control ...i have been practicing for over a year and still find that attempting to control any part of my practice or pleasure derived from it. AS the pfd file suggests- it should be of a more ALLOWING nature than attemting to control it-I have heard and also experienced wherre TRYING to control your responses actually may detract from it- the exact opposite.

"I have the same questions as "Puzzler" plus a couple of my own. I can limit my Anerose sessions for now, to 2 times a week, but I have my "non-Anerose sessions" going on all week long??? (can't really stop these...) I did my first listening session to the CD last night and immediately got involuntaries and "P-Waves"! "

Why would you want them to stop???? Just curious- For me I have echos that last for many days after a practice. Sometimes , my echos are so strong that I am able to build upon the echos to arrive at a most sacred and blessed heartgasm.

"Wow! Is this normal??? I know allot of the things you mention on the CD, I can totally relate to from my non-Anerose MMOs..."

Not sure how is for you- but YES - it is normal... WELCOME TO THE ADVENTURE!!! :-)

"It's hard to figure out just where I started out on this new and exciting quest of yours!!! Do I just ignore everything I know and take on the mind-set of a complete novice and move forward slowly or use some of what I already feel??? "

Any input is very appreciated!

No - not really ignore everything- but look at it from a standpoint of following a new path on your life journey. For me , I took my KSMO journey slowly and with a sense of wonder and constant amazement at what my body was tellign me and the sheer pleasure "I" was receiveing .

"(probably can't stop these good feelings???)"

NO - in fact i think it is like trying to stop the train once it gets started. Just sit back and ENJOY THE RIDE. It can be the most out of this world mind-blowing passionate energy ride !!!

Just my opinion- from my practice experience, you will be taken to some really awesome places you;ve never dreamed you;d see or feel!!

HUGSSS... just take it a step at a time and pause and see how your body is responding and take note of any little sensation - no matter how small it may be!!

With Love, Light and from my Joyously singing heart,
Laly

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Old 30th September 2006, 17:53
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Thanx Laly!

For being the first to welcome me into the forum.

I will eventually learn to use your terms, like Echo Effects, as I get more comfortable in my new environment???

I would love nothing moer than to let KSMO take over as my new guide!

I guess I misspoke, when I used the term "control"??? (I guess I should have said, maybe, increase my "enlightenment"...) I do realize that all I can do at this point is to give the process what it needs and allow it access to me and keep myself open to the vibes and feelings as they present themselves... (hopefully)

Wow! You can orgasm for days!!! You must be a Rock Star here on this site???

I guess you are saying to enjoy the ones I am enjoying and allow them to join and grow with KSMO???

I don't really understand the concept of "heartgasm" yet... sounds great tho??? (all my MMOs are currently centered around my prostate, perenial and anal areas and lower stomach. (valley area from front to back, I guess?)

Thank you Laly, for inviting me on the journey! You are obviousy a very experienced guide and a giving person! Good to know you!

Later, Hlaser

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"Thanx Laly!
For being the first to welcome me into the forum."

No problem - :-) ...i am just happy to meet new members and chat with everyone.

"I will eventually learn to use your terms, like Echo Effects, as I get more comfortable in my new environment???"

yes, you will. Patience with self and with practice.

"I would love nothing more than to let KSMO take over as my new guide! "

AWESOME news to hear- just makes my heart energy go wild :-). Patience, understanding and allowing self to be the guide are the 3 key words I try and remember with each practice. If I feel tha I am just NOT getting anywhere, I back up and breathe for awhile and let the stress or tension just melt away.

"I guess I misspoke, when I used the term "control"??? (I guess I should have said, maybe, increase my "enlightenment"...) I do realize that all I can do at this point is to give the process what it needs and allow it access to me and keep myself open to the vibes and feelings as they present themselves... (hopefully)"

Yes!!! That sounds MUCH better than 'control'!!! Way to step back and really look at how to approach your practice!!!

"Wow! You can orgasm for days!!! You must be a Rock Star here on this site???"

LOL...I WISH it were for days Hlaser!! No really- to be honest MY ksmo orgasms can last well into 8-10 hour time span. The days thing I meant in regards to echo effects I experience after a KSMO session.

"I guess you are saying to enjoy the ones I am enjoying and allow them to join and grow with KSMO???"

YES!! very much agree with what you just said!! *GRINS
There are NO limits to the pleasureable feelings and no 'the sky is the limits' limitations either.

"I don't really understand the concept of "heartgasm" yet... sounds great tho??? (all my MMOs are currently centered around my prostate, perenial and anal areas and lower stomach. (valley area from front to back, I guess?)"

No worries about the heartgasms- is just where my ksmo orgasms seem to be centered lately.

"Thank you Laly, for inviting me on the journey! You are obviousy a very experienced guide and a giving person! Good to know you!

Once again - your welcome .... and aww shucks (blushing) i wish i could call it a curse , but I can't - I just care from the depths of my heart and soul and wish everyone the best that they can achieve with their individual MMO/KSMO journeys.

Right now I can tell you that I am experiencing warm bursts of energy coming for my heart and expanding outward. At times it makes me a lil light-headed but am not too worried about that. I just keep track of them and note the changes and feelings the energy creates.

HUGSS and await to hear more... :-)

As for the guide thing - yeah I care enough to share my experiences in hopes that I can help others.

With Love, Light and from my Joyously singing heart,
Laly

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Old 1st October 2006, 13:27
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Hey Laly!

An 8-10 hour orgasm would probably be more happiness than I could stand!

Wow, really does sound like the sky is the limit, but hard to recalibrate my thinking and wrap my head around the possibilities!!!

"If I feel that I am just NOT getting anywhere, I back up and breathe for awhile and let the stress or tension just melt away."

-This sound like a great way to re-group and go back again, refreshed??? I'll use this!

"The days thing I meant in regards to echo effects I experience after a KSMO session."

-I have these Echo Effects every day, but they seem to be limited to the first half of the day, or so??? (when my energy is at its highest) Actually I seem to wake-up with them lately, as this morning!

Kind of a Good Morning Kiss...One of the things I DO miss, now that I am an old bachelor...LOL!

"There are NO limits to the pleasureable feelings and no 'the sky is the limits' limitations either."

I seem to keep repeating this... as it sounds soooo good to me! A real Wow!

If my journey takes me to heartgasms, so be it... Until then, I will just continue to enjoy this great ride!

I can relate to the lil light-headed feeling; I have periodic vertigo attacks. Not that bad now-days tho??? I have found that the human body is a miraculous thing, in that it has partially healed itself and found ways to actually compensate for this condition!!!

Seems like I am always being amazed by things that I had no idea were possible in my life mentally, physically, spiritually, can't leave out sexually! LOL! (If my old friends could see me now...Eh!) they would try and have me commited, probably! "He thinks he's a lion!" LOL!

Thanx again, Laly

Later, Hlaser99

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Hmmmm ,Oh dear I got a long way to go. Everyone around me has Multiples.

Had the Aneros a year and not yet achieved a super O.
Practising the Key Sound and have no feelings whatso ever yet.

I know I need patience. I just get fed up when newbie's on Aneros site say they achieved this or that inside the first month. Or on here saying they achieved involuntaries straight away.

Sure I have great feelings with the Aneros and I also can have great feelings without it. By concentrating and imagining my Penis becoming hard from the inside I can get p waves. It feels like a constant pulse in my anus.
I do as described. Don't fight them. Don't force them , just let your body recognise these feelings and you shall reap the rewards. No I'm not (


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