Session start: Sat Oct 24 23:15:39 2009
Jack> Latest chat transcript is available here : Multiple Orgasm Trigger(tm) Discussion ChatBox Transcript of 20091023
Jack> Next Chat I'll be personally hosting begins SOON! When the RED NUMERALS on the "Next hosted chat 2 begins..." line are all at 00!
Jack> ***** Welcome to the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger™ Discussion and Training Chat of 20091025 hosted personally by Jack Johnston MA™
Jack> Hi Guys!
Quest777> Hi Jack, Hi Buster!
Jack> :)
Jack> And it's great to see you here again Buster, Very Warm Welcome Back!
Jack> Hi Drew, Very Warm Welcome to you as well!
Quest777> Hi Drew.
Drew> Thanks Jack... Hi all!
Buster> Hi everyone.
Jack> How about for the readers we go around the room once quickly with an intro - where typing from, how long with this practice, anything else you'd like to share (as always, any and all is optional).
Quest777> New York, Male mid-forties married with children, 7 months
Jack> Thanks very much Quest777!
Drew> Detroit, Male, 48, single, hetero... Thirteen years!
Buster> I am from Michigan and have been at it for....I am thinking a year and a half.
Drew> HI Neighbor!
Jack> :)
Quest777> Drew, I was reading about you today. Inspirational.
Buster> Hi Drew.
Drew> Oh?
Drew> I could use a little myself lately.
Quest777> I think I searched on "The Empty Cup" and was led to your breakthrough post. Made me feel better. :)
Drew> Cool!
Jack> Quest777 any chance you can backtrack and grab the link to it for posting here?
Jack> Or gimme key phrase you remember from the post that might be fairly rare and I'll search it while we continue to chat.
Quest777> Backtracking in progress......
Buster> Really, I was just going to go look for it.
Jack> Great!
Quest777> http://www.multiples.com/howtolastlo...field#post1728
Jack> Thanks!
Quest777> A pleasure.
artform> Hi All!
Drew> Wow, I'm going to have to review that later!
Jack> We were also talking about the Empty Cup in Chat 1 this weekend.
Jack> WELCOME artform!!! I hope you had a great trip home.
Buster> Hi Artform.
Quest777> Yes, no expectations.
artform> Thanks Jack, yes, but still a little jet lagged.
Quest777> Though I do have a question along those lines.
artform> Hi Buster!
artform> Hi Quest777
artform> !
artform> Hi Drew!
Quest777> Hey Artform!
Drew> Hi artform!
Jack> Quest777 I believe you have the Talking Stick, as you mentioned you have a question.
artform> Sorry for interruption. Please go ahead with your questions Quest777.
Quest777> In the last session we were talking about my wandering mind during sessions. I'm wondering now if there is a difference between a wandering mind while still making the keysound and "mind noise"?
Jack> No apologies necessary at all... We are very happy you're here!
Quest777> Agreed Jack!
Jack> Actually there may be a clue in your wandering wondering...
Jack> by that I mean if your mind is wandering away from the here and now,
Jack> what you're feeling and sensing in the moment, and of course the occasional fantasy,
Jack> then that may tend to reduce the Echoes... by contrast,
Quest777> I have a very active mind, work, family, food, sex. None of my wanderings are negative like "this is silly".
Jack> if you're allowing your mind to stay open to what clues and intuitions your inherent deeper erotic response abilities may be whispering in your inner ear, and otherwise clueing you in, then you may well be on to something.
Jack> It can also be very productive to assume that your deeper selves and deeper cells want to communicate with you about how to allow this powerful Life Force Energy to run more coherently throughout your being.
artform> Indeed!!:D:D
Jack> [ Very Warm Welcome Back, Sky_Walker! ]
Sky_Walker> Howdy all, please continue.
artform> Hi SW!
Quest777> So, let them guide my mind where it needs to go and don't worry too much that I'm not "meditating properly"?
Quest777> Heya Sky!
Jack> artform, would you be so good as to unpack your indeed!! a bit? ;)
Jack> Quest777 re: let them guide... YES! And really ANY worry is if not too much then at least not necessary. :)
Jack> Fret not... Relax and LISTEN to your Body's Inner Erotic WisdomS
Quest777> I've been in a very intense, but emotional state this week. Good emotions, but strong.
Jack> Quest777 have we given you more food for thought and practice?
Quest777> Cool, thanks Jack.
Quest777> And with that, I'll pass the stick.
Jack> Quest777 before you pass the Talking Stick,
Jack> would you, if you're ok doing so (if not, that's >always< ok!),
artform> As the energies began to race around my body in the early Echo Effects, and I became more responsive to their sense of intention, they too began reacting to mine, little by little at first.
Jack> would you speak a little about these good strong emotions?
Jack> Only if you care to, of course.
Quest777> yes......
Jack> artform, yes thank you for that VERY IMPORTANT POINT about tuning in to the INTENTIONS of what our Deeper Erotic Selves are communicating to US!
Quest777> I met someone this week, someone whom I have the utmost respect for who reaffirmed and validated many things I believe.
Jack> Wonderful!!!
Quest777> It's hard to quite put it into words, but this was the most gracious and giving person I have ever met and I was lucky enough to spend several days learning music and life lessons from him.
Jack> Lovely!
Quest777> I can't stop being emotional about it. I'm on cloud 99999.
Jack> :):):):):)
Jack> Way to Open Your HEART!!!
Quest777> Yeah, it's rejuvinated me.
Buster> Sounds cool, Q7!
Quest777> I wasn't even going to go to the event even though I wanted to and then I took the leap of faith. Can't imagine NOT going now.
Jack> Congratulations!!!
Quest777> Thanks so much.
Jack> You're VERY Welcome!
Quest777> If MMO is like this I think I'll burst!!! ha ha!!
Jack> Thank you for sharing your joy with us!
Buster> The joy is contagious
Jack> Well that feeling of being about to burst IS an aspect of the higher arousal states. That's where good practice of relaxing breathing REALLY comes in handy!
artform> I found that "cell[ular] yearning to talk" a very strong feature that ultimately resulted in these Mitochondrial Orgasms that are a surprising and most direct expression of that, as well as an astounding experience of discrete but musically interacting, deep, warm, energetic orgasms and ecstasies throughout my body.
artform> Thanks Quest777!!! and Congratulations!
artform> :D
Quest777> Glad to share.
Jack> Thou Singest The Bawdy Electric!
Jack> < was to artform.
Jack> Yes thank you VERY much for doing so, Quest777!
Buster> Gotta run guys. I am yawning up a storm. It's been fun connecting again.
artform> They are the most frequent Echo Effects and aneros day after effects for me. Even feeling of great joy can bring them on spontaneously.
Drew> Sweet dreams, Buster!
Jack> hey Buster I wish we coulda heard more from ya! Sweet Dreams and I hope you'll check back in before too long!
artform> Like hearing of your experience Quest777!
Jack> LOL Drew, we bofe wishin a/f Sweet Dreams! :)
artform> All the best Buster!
Buster> Hey Jack, do you still send out reminder emails about these chats? If so, I stopped getting them
Quest777> Buster I'm done if you want to chat a bit.
Buster> I know Q7, but I am beat and it came on fast. I will catch up on the next chat.
Jack> artform, re: the feelings of great joy as triggers - now you're really dialed in, Brother! Congratulations!
Buster> Thanks.
Jack> I'll be happy to send you reminders, Buster. meanwhile, you can always check the Forum Home page and the countdown clock will tell you how many days hours and minutes until the next two, no matter what your time zone is, the time remaining til the next chat is the same. ;)
Quest777> It is more than coincidence that these 2 paths, this and the one that I spoke of have converged. They both indicate the same thing: Listen to my instinct. Ignore self-doubt and self-criticism. Ignore the little voices in your head that say "it isn't good enough, maybe you're wrong"
artform> This is one joyous electric bod even as we speak!;)
Jack> Well some times some of those little voices have something to teach. IMHO Our challenge is to learn to tell which voices are on the signal line, and which aren't.
artform> Right Q7; out with the mind noise!
Jack> LOL, that's great, artform!
Quest777> I guess Wisdom is knowing which ones to listen too.
Quest777> uh, "listen to."
Jack> And listen, too!
Jack> ;)
Jack> So-called "slips" are often allies - lessons - as well! The pejorative term slip may tend to obfuscate their potential value.
artform> A few weeks ago I spoke of the sense of the expanding space of consciousness. Of feeling the mind throughout the body, particularly the second brain of the gut/abdomen/uro-genital complex – not intellectually or cataloguing, but just as open empty silent expanding space, deeply relaxed.
Quest777> I'm new to all this "inner listening" but I'm learning.
Jack> That's GREAT that you're open to the learning your own Body Wisdom is offering you, Quest777!
Jack> artform, that's LOVELY!
artform> You never know who will start whispering!:eek::)
Jack> Deeply relaxed, and deeply intelligent!
Jack> Yes, exactly!
Jack> You never know when those IdEntities will whisper a little gem into your Third Ear. ;)
artform> It can be ticklish!
Jack> That's the point!
Jack> Perchance... ;)
artform> :D
Jack> artform, would you say a bit more about what one's second brain as you described it has to offer?
artform> Our gut brain has as many neurons as the skull brain and they are linked in several ways. Our dear friend the Vagus Nerve complex is a key part of that linkage and our orgasmic full body communications!
Quest777> Hmmm, 2 brains, 3 ears and I have a third eye right? That's quite a mental picture!
artform> Get used to it buddy!;)
Jack> ...And then some... but who's counting, eh? :D
artform> And there is even more to this picture!
Jack> [ hint: it appears that it may be fractal ]
Jack> artform, what's giving you clues that there may be even more to the picture? What could someone else learning this be on the lookout for?
artform> Science is currently exploring the roles of the gut brain from a medical illness and treatment perspective, but is has a broader and deeper role too. "Gut feeling" is not a metaphor.
artform> IMHO and experience, there is resonant thought processing there too. If your laptop can now do parallel processing with two or now even four cores, I think we are using at least two even if we have yet to map that fully.
Jack> Very Good Points imho!!!
artform> Very active open Chakras and free flowing Microcosmic Orbits currently, so to speak! Chi like YIKES!!
Jack> With all of the Chi running, what practices ground you? What Earth's the Power?
artform> Once one has some friendly communications with the fawn, which is beginning to morph into a herd of friendly deer...
Jack> Nice!
Jack> Just all milling about, are they?
artform> ...look for the sense of interactive intentions/response with the energies and particular organs and other subsystems of your body. Soon you sense the subtle differences between JING, CHI and SHEN. Then energy accumulation and transmutation can start to be available.
Jack> :rolleyes:
Jack> For our readers, what's a brief definition of Jing, Chi, and SHEN, please?
artform> Has been two and half years of mixed KSMO/Aneros practice with memories revived of earlier Taoist and Tantra explorations.
artform> Jing is the earthy orgasmic energies, Chi the general Life Force energies, and Shen the ethereal translucent spiritual light energies, says this naive novice.
artform> So far...
artform> I'm sorry that several have dropped off. I did not mean to take the talking stick. Just trying to complete the answer to your question.
Jack> Yes I appreciate your answer. I know it's getting pretty late back East and elsewhere, and I appreciate your taking the time to explain the terms.
Jack> Is there anything else anyone would like to discuss?
Jack> Any questions about KSMO practice I and others might answer? Or???
Quest777> I'm good, thanks.
Sky_Walker> No need for apologies artform, it's just my right click look up is getting a real workout
artform> Great SW!
Jack> k, Quest777 I really appreciate your being here, and for what you've shared. Congratulations on your new understandings and awakenings!
artform> ;)
Jack> LOL Sky_Walker... I hear ya! :)
Sky_Walker> it's been an enlightening afternoon here!
Quest777> Thanks Jack, I appreciate everyone here as well.
artform> Again, great news Quest777.
Jack> How about it, Sky_Walker? How's practice?
Sky_Walker> Hi Jack, a bit busy for practice lately, but the echoes are still coming
Sky_Walker> will soon get back into it.
Jack> Hey no worries, Sky... I'm very glad to hear that the Echoes continue to flourish!
Jack> Does anyone have anything else they'd like to share or ask?
artform> Sir Mog of MultiOrgattainia and I and others have been discussing similar energies issues over at Aneros: http://www.aneros.com/forum/possible...254e24b5874f06
artform> Might be of help or interest in pursuing this mapping of energies experience.
Quest777> Well, I'm gonna call it a night everyone. Take care all!
Jack> BTW, vBulletin 4.0 is now running here at the vBulletin Home Site. Just the Forum not the CMS yet. But it now DOES say it's a Beta version so that's a big deal. They are finally out of Alpha Testing of the new Forum and Blogs system.
artform> Mog's great summary of the state in which one best makes oneself available for these great orgasmic/energetic experiences is one of relaxed submissive desire. :D
Jack> Oh that is SWEET!
artform> Wow Jack! More encouraging progress! Will check that out too!
Jack> I would also describe it as relaxed receptive desire. That's the YIN characteristic of this Power Source.
Sky_Walker> See ya Quest
Jack> RE: vB 4.0 There'll probably be about 4 weeks of Beta testing where a LOT of users - in the tens of thousands - will thrash the heck out of the software to scare up most of the remaining bugs and loose ends.
artform> Thought you might like that one from Sir mog!:)
Jack> Some time during that period they'll get the CMS running. Probably within the next few days they'll attach it to their Beta Forum engine. They wanted to get the core Forum and Blogs into beta before adding another complex module.
Jack> LOL re: Sir Mog of MultiOrgasmattainia, yes indeed!
Jack> They will then release a "Gold" version of the software and at that point we'll start the migration process.
artform> Agree re: receptive
Jack> If all goes according to plan, we'll hopefully be taking full advantage of all of the functions and features listed in the RIGHT-hand column on THIS PAGE. Be sure to scroll all the way near the bottom where the Content Management Features and Functions are listed.
Jack> Thanks artform re: Receptive... Yes, that's the Empty Cup... :) The Paradoxically Full YIN.
artform> That reminds me, while on my trip I have gone beyond the Male Clitoral Massage, to the full Mangina! Butt that is another story for another day!:cool: We've just gone midnight here. Good Night Jack and Sky_Walker! Great chat. Again soon!
Jack> WHAT A TEASE, ARTFORM!!! LOL :D
Jack> I look forward to hearing from you about it.
Jack> Oh btw, artform,
Jack> I tried sending you an email and it bounced back saying your box was full or something.
Sky_Walker> See ya artform
Jack> Well guys if there's nothing else that's on the agenda for now, I'll be wishing you each a wonderful week! I hope you enjoy practice and life generally. What a beautiful Autumn we're having here!
Jack> Colors were at full intensity today.
Jack> THANK YOU for being here and for sharing of yourselves in this open yet intimate way. I really am very grateful for the way in which you share your authentic intimate selves. Bright Blessings to each of you!
artform> I'll email you my more direct newer email Jack. Thanks for mentioning the problem. Bye for now. A beautiful autumn indeed!
Jack> Ok, great, thanks!
Jack> ***** END of Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol Training and Discussion Chat of 20091025 Hosted Personally by Jack Johnston MA™
Jack> All the very best to Mrs. A as well, artform!
Sky_Walker> Bye Jack, thanks for the chat
Jack> Wishing you all the very very best, Sky_Walker, thanks for being here and sharing so much!
Jack> You're quite welcome!
Lava> darn it... missed it again...
Lava> @artform -- I'm studying lots of the stuff you've talked about... from the energy work to the gut brain...
Lava> good stuff! hopefully, we'll be on here at the same time one day. :D
Jack> Lava, I too am sorry to have missed you, as I'm sure artform is as well. Just make a post to HIS blog and you'll have a conversation started, OR make a post to YOUR blog to which he can reply.
Session stop: Sun Oct 25 09:56:47 2009