Session start: Sun Feb 8 00:45:40 2009
Jack> Latest chat transcript is available here : Multiple Orgasm Trigger(tm) Discussion ChatBox Transcript of 2009027
Laly> Hi Andrea
Jack> ***** Welcome to the Multiple Orgasm Trigger™ Training and Discussion Forum of 20090208 hosted personally by Jack Johnston MA
Jack> Hi Andrea and Laly!
Laly> HI Jack
Jack> Chatty Mob this eve! :rolleyes:
Laly> yeah...
Laly> end of earlier chat got interesting
Jack> No worries... Lovely pre-
Jack> Spring evening...
Jack> Hi again Buster!
Laly> oh yeah-- weather was awesome today
Laly> hi buster.
Buster> Hi all.
Jack> What aspects of earlier chat are you referring to?
Laly> the aspect of how KSMO is expanding more than perception of orgasms
Jack> Ah yes indeed!
Laly> :).
Jack> Also reiterates the traditional meaning of Orgasm in that ALL LIFE is IMBUED WITH ORGASM.
Laly> yes.
Jack> Life Force.
Laly> it has allowed me to see or find the inner strength I never thought or knew i had.
Jack> I really like the East Asian tradition of creation being made up of sound. It's actually a GLOBAL archetype, come to think of it...
Jack> Laly you have made such GREAT use of tapping that Inner Strength, too! Well Done!!!
Laly> thanks.
Jack> y/w :)
Laly> in the coming months-- I am challenging an old furball - or at least a fear i've had
Laly> will be teaching computer classes where I work
Laly> have always had the limiting belief that I've thought I had or was - afraid of public speaking
Laly> being "center" of attention-- in a group of people.
Jack> One advantage of teaching about computers is that the primary attention is on the computers! ;)
Laly> taking baby steps on this new courageous life journey.
Laly> true jack...but the one on one help i've given others to this point
Jack> Yeah... VERY cool though! I think you might find it interesting to learn more about Morae3 by TechSmith.
Laly> gotten multitude of thank yous-- cause am very patient and explain things so that is easy to understand.
Jack> I plan to be using it along with its partner, UserVue, around here once we get the Joomla framework up and running.
Jack> That is GREAT to hear you're getting such great kudos!
Laly> yeah-- but i thought those only ran on Intel-based macs??
Jack> I'm not at all surprised of course, and I sure am pleased to hear how much fun it is for you as well as for your students.
Jack> Oh right, re: intel-macs, sorry...
Jack> Little later, maybe. :)
Laly> yeah -- in a way...is helping people overcome "computer" fears
Jack> Yeah that's really great!
Jack> Hey Buster, how're YOU doing this evening?
Laly> yeah-- hop right in here Buster-- don't mean to hog the TS :)
Buster> I am doing well. Better than well actually
Laly> sweet.
Jack> LOL... Just wanted to make sure he knew we hadn't forgotten him, ;)
Jack> That is VERY nice to hear, Buster! May you sure a little re: how so?
Jack> "may you share" re: "may you sure" ... hmmm...
Buster> Well, I had my best (by far) KSMO session the other night......
Buster> and I think I have a line on a job with a firm that I want to work with.
Jack> WoW a STAND UP DOUBLE!!!
Buster> I am "up" about this full moon session Monday Night.
Laly> (yeaaahh :D )
Buster> The help you gave me in the last chat I was in Jack was very helpful to me.
Jack> Thanks >very< much for saying so Buster, that means a lot to me. I really appreciate your kindness, and want to support your growth however I might.
Buster> Well, you and I probably have a few more conversations in us.
Buster> I am in need of constant supervision.
Jack> LOL!
Laly> hmmmm
Buster> So, don't you want to know the sage advise that I was given?
Buster> The caress starts the inhale. As simple as it sounds, I was inhaling DURING the inhale. There is a big difference. And I found that out.
Buster> I am sorry, I was caressing DURING the inhale.
Jack> OH GOOD ONE!!!
Jack> Yes the inhale is an AUTOMATIC response to the CARESS.
Buster> I udated my blog about the session. I tried to go into as much detail as I could.
Buster> I got to a "calm" state that I had never gotten to before. It was a cool place.
Jack> And we then PAIR the Key Sound™ arousal amplification to that
Buster> I hope to visit there again.
Jack> automatic response.
Laly> great re: calm place buster.
Jack> RE: That CALM place, Buster... I associate that with resting at the Center of the Lotus.
Buster> I had this buzz going that was quite remarkable.
Jack> Cool how Laly and I both keyed on the CALM aspect, eh Buster? :)
Buster> I can rest there anytime. I assume that there is something on the other side of that that I might be interested in as well.
Buster> That was good.
Jack> Ohhh please say more about the Buzz, if you will.
Jack> Yeah that any time I want It, I can just tap right into It is a DELICIOUS feeling isn't it?
Buster> You know Jack, as I remember it now, it was more of a buzz of the lower half of my body from my waist to my feet.
Buster> I was in these full body shakes right before it that were completely uncontrollable. I don't like those but I guess I have to get through it.
Jack> I LIKE pulling up that ROOT energy.
Jack> RE: the shakes... perhaps you can allow them to slow down a bit by slowing and deepening your breathing...
Buster> Let me ask you this. When I was in this state, I wanted to spend my time enjoying it and felt like I was fighting against doing the Key Sounds.
Jack> There's no obligation to be doing Key Sounds... you're just welcome to use them
Jack> when the Spirit Moves Ya :)
Buster> I get things moving and feel at times like doing the Key Sounds pulls away from it, but I am also trying to be sensitive to the fact that doing them can compound the feelings.
Laly> i agree- i found I don't need to use or do the key sound myself anymore Buster.
Jack> The Key Sounds are something else in your shamanic medicine bag as learn to ride these energies - and become... shall we say: Ever More Pleasantly Surprised!
Buster> The session lasted about 40 minutes. I was doing my Key Sounds on my own timing instead of using the 20 program that I have on the Pod. I was listening to Kelly Howell.
Buster> I guess that is it for me.
Jack> That really sounds wonderful, Buster!
Laly> yeah...
Buster> Except for again sending out the invitation to everyone to have KSMO session on Monday Night at 9PM in your respective time zones. We are trying an experiment with our energy over on the Aneros site and feel as though our friends here could be involved as well.
Laly> i left you a reply over there Buster :)
Laly> re: that.
Buster> I saw that LL - thank you.
Laly> *blushing
Jack> Thanks for the info and reminder, Buster!
Laly> (thank hlaser for that name buster-- he chose it ;) )
Buster> Jack, we could use your energy as well if you have time.
Buster> Re: the name - Laser is very helpful.
Jack> Thanks Buster can you send me a summary email with the details - sorry I've been a bit swamped but would like to check it out.
Buster> We would love to count you into the scene. You would add a great deal to it and what the heck, you will have fun! Ask the Mrs. to join in as well. I will send the link to the thread in an email to you right now.
Laly> (hi tandello n curious)
Jack> Thanks Buster, I'll take a look - Yes Warm Welcome to Tandello and Curious!
Curious> Hey there
Buster> Jack, the email is sent. I am going to check out. It was fun tonight.
Jack> K, Buster, thanks. Sweet Dreams...
Curious> Started KSMO a couple years ago
Curious> Then got into aneros and then some tantra
tandello> hello everyone
Curious> Started to try the practice again recently
Laly> how's that going for you Curious?
Curious> My issue seems to be in getting to a peak that is really good but thinking there's more
Jack> Hey Curious it's great to have you back! A real good next step is
Jack> to post an .mp3 sample of your Key Sound™ articulation to the Private Key Sound Validation Area,
Jack> and I'll give you some feedback as to accuracy, as it can make a BIG difference. ;)
Curious> Great I didn't know about that
Curious> I must admit I sometimes abandon it as I go higher
Jack> Yep all part of the service with a smile here. :D
Curious> I have fantastic orgasms and mostly at will about anywhere
Laly> (welcome Epicurien)
Curious> But I think there's more
Jack> Curious, the Key Sound is not mandatory... it's just there to use as an amplifier when you want to... It's really good for opening more energy gates in your body,
Jack> so the the energy can flow ever more freely.
Curious> That's part of my problem and hold back - thinking about it too much
Jack> I'd also like to know where y'all are typing from, and to also give tandello and Epicurien a chance to check in.
Curious> Getting it right so to speak
tandello> if the key sound isn't necessary, what is the primary vehicle expansion of the orgasm..., touch and intention?
Jack> Curious, you say you notice yourself holding back?
Jack> Tandello, the Key Sound is VERY useful for building arousal - BIG BIG BIG arousal - yet withOUT using a lot of stimulation. And it's stimulation to a VERY great degree that triggers ejaculation...
Curious> Well - a perceived hold back - I get a little over active at times
Curious> Sometimes physically it's limiting
Jack> So by using the alternative - the Key Sound™ - to intensify full-body arousal... the arousal
Curious> Then other times I go to calm mode
Jack> spreads throughout your body and becomes FAR more intense, without any pressure to ejaculate.
Jack> Curious... hey I'm all for variety!
Curious> Definitely - sometimes I can even use penis massage to bring on FBO's
Jack> It's how you get to know yourself sensually - and that of
Jack> course may lead to sharing with a partner at some time.
Curious> Oh I have worked with my wife and she's listened to the CD as well
Jack> Yeah re: penis massage, if you use a single caress, pause, Key Sound, regular breathing, and repeat for a bit - you can also have a bit of fun from time to time as well. You get to have it all.
Jack> I'll be happy to answer any questions she may have as well.
Curious> My wife's very supportive and recently used the massage
Curious> to take me to some FBO's as well. It's about relaxation
Curious> I take the mental focus away from that stimulation
Jack> She need not be concerned that she has to make the Key Sound as deep as a man does, just a deeply as feels comfortable and kind of husky - sexy. That seems to be the secret, regardless of gender or orientation.
Curious> and spread the energy at that point
Jack> That's wonderful that you two share like that!
Curious> We sometimes run into a timing aspect when we try to trade them
Curious> I think I need to give up the talking stick for a while here
Laly> hi drew
Jack> LOL no problem, Curious, it's really great to hear from you and to get to know you better.
Jack> I hope we'll get to hear from your Beloved as well.
Jack> Good Evening Drew!
Curious> Thanks I may be off in a second - appreciate everyone here!
Drew> Hi Laly et al
Drew> Hi Jack
Laly> You are very welcome Curious :)
Jack> I look forward to next time, Curious, and I hope you and your Sweetie start a Blog here if you haven't already.
Jack> The Blog is a very effective tool for anchoring and documenting one's Adventure of Discovery in this Realm. :)
rumel> Good evening all!
Laly> hi rumel
Drew> Hi rumel.
rumel> Hi Drew (scrambler? :) )
Jack> Wow we have a LOT of years' of experience in the room tonight!
Drew> Yeah, that's me... Or was in another life.
rumel> Hello "Luscious L"
Laly> *DEEP blushing
rumel> Buster - we have to stop meeting like this, people will begin to talk :)
Laly> k this tiger need her sleep.
Jack> K, Sweeeet Dreams Laly!
Laly> thanks jack
rumel> Good night Tigress of the moon.
Laly> *waves bye bye to all
Jack> Does anyone have a question? - or an answer! ?? :)
rumel> Yes I have a related followup to one of Buster's comments.
Jack> You have the Talking Stick, Sir Rumel!
Drew> 421
Drew> Oops, I meant '42'!
rumel> Thank you sire. It has to do with the automatic breath intake upon the single caress.
Jack> Well I reckon there's times when 421 might be just the thing when '42' ain't quite right, so thanks on both counts Drew! :D
Drew> YVW! ;)
rumel> I don't seem to have an automatic breath intake from the caress.
rumel> BTW , I don't 'get' the reference to '42'?
Jack> Drew, can you trust him with the answer?
Drew> Re: "42"... It's the 'answer' to the meaning of "life, the Universe and everything" from "The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams.
rumel> Yes it feels good.
rumel> Oh yeah the improbabilty driven starship
Jack> Rumel, when you do the caress, does it feel good?
Jack> In that moment that you say to yourself, this feels good... this feels nice...
Jack> you are likely to be taking an inhale... often you may
Drew> Probably ;)
Jack> tend to notice the SIGH that typically follows this automatic inhale.
Jack> As one does that Sigh (i.e. an exhale...) the gentle Key Sound will tend to vibrate the trunk of your body
Jack> and awaken the energy channels that allow the erotic and altruistic love to flow more freely.
rumel> I am trying to cut the down the internal dialogue during a session so, No, I don't say to myself this feels good.
Jack> That's my biased description, anyway.
Jack> rumel, you may have explored the following pattern before,
Jack> but just in case not, or perchance for your interest,
rumel> I perform the caress at the beginning of an intake breath, perhaps the caress should occur at the perigee of the breath cycle?
Jack> and that is to seek to quiet the internal dialogue at times, and then
Jack> balance with listening to what the internal voices are saying.
Jack> Rumel, re timing of caress.
Jack> Do the caress and the breath will happen automatically, just do the Key Sound on the exhale of that breath.
Jack> That's my recommendation as a manner of practice that may be of some benefit.
Jack> Isn't it grand to have so many options to explore?!
rumel> I do the KS on the exhale OK, Yes options are wonderful to a point. I guess I need to listen for the automatic intake more carefully after the caress.
rumel> Practice, practice, practice...
rumel> Why don't we pass the talking stick?
Jack> Rumel, actually my point is that you may not need to be concerned about
Jack> timing of the automatic intake...
Jack> Just do the caress, pause it and do the Key Sound... you will
Jack> be doing the KS on the exhale of that automatic inbreath, in most instances.
Jack> This is just a suggestion... Not a rule, ok? Just a suggestion for exploration of the results, the clues.
rumel> OK, got it, sometimes I may get a bit pedantic about simple processes even when I know there are multiple options that can accomplish the same purpose.
Jack> LOL no worries. I'm rather familiar with the syndrome.
Drew> :rolleyes:
Jack> Just do the caress and follow with the KS... You'll be fine.
Jack> Tune in to any little tingles etc. - not only during - but also after the session, and on the days between.
rumel> I think I was in a chicken/egg dilemma, caress/intake.
Jack> You've already got a great attitude of giving yourself lots of leeway to just explore however your intuition leads you. I trust that the most.
Jack> Yeah re: chicky/egg... Yep, a head-lock. It's all part of the learning Adventure... hmm at first there I just wrote Adventrue I LIKE THAT! :)
Drew> Adventrue=The advent of TRUTH... Everyone knows that, right?
Jack> Exactly my point and evidently that of my subconscious, eh Drew?
Jack> So anyway rumel... caress, Key Sound, a few breaths, easy breezy...
Jack> Then vary it however you like whenever you like. Maybe come back to the basic practice Protocol once in a while just for contrast and to see what new doors might open as a surprising result.
Drew> adventrue.com IS taken! :mad:
rumel> Jack, you could title your next book "AdvenTRUES in Orgasmland" :)
Jack> LOL.
Jack> BTW, thanks for ckg, Drew!
Drew> Looks like it could be 'available' (at a price).
Jack> Ah yes. For a price.
Jack> I'm sure looking forward to getting the site we already have in some better shape.
Drew> I've got 2¢ worth right here they can have!
Jack> The Joomla thingie is taking for ev errrrr.
Jack> May have something in a week or two.
rumel> Well, I'm going to sign out for tonight, thanks for dissolving the dilemma Jack; Drew, good night and keep on scrambling!
rumel> I'll try to catch you all at the next Chat session.
Drew> < 'scrambled' around Snowdonia on Google Earth the other day... Some of the posted photos brought it all back to me.
Jack> Thanks rumel. It's about that time for me too. Very nice to have you here and for your presence and presents in the Forum.
Jack> Sounds like ol' timers sitting around the pot-bellied 1200 baud modem.
Jack> Well all rightie... thanks again for being here tonight. May you have a lovely week. Here comes Spring!
Drew> I sure hope so!
Jack> I hear ya Drew!
Drew> actually got above freezing for the first time in ages today.
Jack> I would think the whole countryside breathed a sigh of some relief.
Jack> How long is the warming spell?
Drew> Not sure... The weather is really unpredictable at the best of times in these parts.
Jack> Well I gotta run... will talk with you again soon I hope.
Drew> OK, nighty night!
Drew> Keep warm!
Jack> Yeah seems like weather pattern less stable now too. Interesting Times indeed.
Jack> You too Drew! I wish you all the very best!
Drew> Thanks... Right back at ya!
Jack> ***** END of the Multiple Orgasm Trigger™ Training and Discussion Forum of 20090208 hosted personally by Jack Johnston MA
CRUNKYEAH> Hey helix, looks like you're new here?
zeitgeist> Hi Jack!... I've just sent you 3 emails with images about references relevant to KSMO!
zeitgeist> ...in case that spam filter gobbles them up...
zeitgeist> hence this heads up; hopefully catch you on the next chat if not before :)
zeitgeist> Et Bon nuit Epicurien!
Jack> Thanks very much for the emails Zeitgeist, got'em!
CRUNKYEAH> hey levingo, up for some chatting?
CRUNKYEAH> anyone here up for some chatting?
mlb278> hello.. wanna chat
CRUNKYEAH> hey epic, how has your journey been? :)
Jack> Hi Crunkyeah! You still here?
Jack> I'll check back in a little bit to see if you are...
Jack> Gotta run now, but will be checking back. BFN...
Jack> Happy Valentine's Day! - The Feast of Lovers! - The Lupercalia!
Session stop: Sat Feb 14 04:37:32 2009