Session start: Sun Jan 18 00:05:18 2009
Jack> Latest chat transcript is available here : Multiple Orgasm Trigger(tm) Discussion ChatBox Transcript of 20090117
Pan> partner
CRUNKYEAH> hello, do you either of you look at this? lol
CRUNKYEAH> talking to mog and epicurien**
mog> Apologies, Crunk - was busy elsewhere.
Epicurien> sorry, I was away too
Hermit1> can someone show me where the how it works section is?
Laly> how what works hermit?
Hermit1> I was reading anerosmiths entry and he mention the "how it works"
Hermit1> in regards to dry orgasms
Hermit1> "without ejaculation"
Laly> ahh-- k
Laly> he was talking about the ksmo method itself
Hermit1> OH
Hermit1> LOL
Hermit1> thanks
Laly> as to "how it works" -- have you gotten the pdf file
Hermit1> have you ever tried intoning the ksmo method?
Laly> you're welcome
Laly> intoning-- please clarify
Hermit1> ive been experienced with hermetic meditation techniques
Hermit1> they have some form of mantras
Hermit1> i substituted the ksmo sound
Hermit1> while meditating
Hermit1> this was the first day i got the cd
Hermit1> let me tell you. holy shit!
Laly> and?
Hermit1> the body vibrates at frequencies depending on thoughts
Hermit1> and other things
Laly> :)- sounds like something good happened eh?
Hermit1> i used it laying down and sitting up. Standing was interesting too
Laly> yes it does....
Hermit1> you start to feel the same pleasure sensations from just being connected to the earth
Hermit1> and you body starts to expand
Hermit1> pretty amazing stuff
Hermit1> i haven't had luck with dry orgasms with an erection yet, but ive only had the course a week
Laly> yes ....
Laly> do not rush yourself okay
Hermit1> im not, im taking it easy. because the first night i experienced alot of emotional stuff
Hermit1> at least im taking it easy now
Laly> okay
Laly> yeah re: emotional stuff ....
Laly> i hope isnt too bad for you-- dealing wise
Hermit1> i think i had a panic attack. no, i relaxed and let it all flow through me
Hermit1> i actually feel really cleansed now
Laly> great!!
Laly> i do hope that you are taking note of these experiences
Laly> that way you can note of changes-differences
Laly> and I hope to see you in the live chat this saturday-- held right here in this box
Hermit1> absolutely
Hermit1> the experiences are proving to be life changing
Hermit1> how long did it take you to see amazing results?
Laly> *smiles...it took me less than 3 weeks
Laly> to experience a true multiple orgasmic experience
Hermit1> how long did you practice a day?
Hermit1> 20 minutes?
Laly> i need to go exercise - but I'll be back Hermit
Laly> with the relaxation beforehand-- about 40 minutes all together
Laly> in the beginning
Laly> and practice should be done every other day
Hermit1> cool, enjoy
Laly> giving your body time in between to become accustomed to the key sound
Laly> i'll be back when done
Laly> Jack says Hi to you and welcome to the forum :)
Laly> ok am back
rumel> Laly are you monitoring right now?
CRUNKYEAH> you there epic?
CRUNKYEAH> i just posted in your thread if you'd like to take a look :)
Laly> hi ya crunk
CRUNKYEAH> hey laly how goes it?
Laly> good and for you?
CRUNKYEAH> pretty good, kinda sleepy though it's 4 am here in hawaii but I'm considering staying up for the live chat
CRUNKYEAH> you have a chance to check out my thread yet?
CRUNKYEAH> oh and i sent you a friend request ^^
Laly> ok
Laly> yeah I read it alot :).
CRUNKYEAH> haha have anything to say?;)
Laly> am replying on the side - to the question you posed .
Laly> but i'll tell you here-- yes it is easier sitting
CRUNKYEAH> alright sweet
CRUNKYEAH> have you experienced MMOs with ones while laying though?
Laly> OH YEAH
CRUNKYEAH> to me, laying down seems more comfortable..but i'm not sure if i'll have good results without making the best KS possible
CRUNKYEAH> well that gives me hope
Laly> yeah re: laying down-- it can be
Laly> for me -- with hip injury , it's not always comfortable for me
CRUNKYEAH> can be what?
CRUNKYEAH> ohh, sorry to hear about that
Laly> about 2 weeks into practicing- i experienced my first full body multiple orgasm
CRUNKYEAH> was that while sitting or laying down?
CRUNKYEAH> this gives me lots of hope, even though i don't expect that will happen to me
Laly> laying down
Laly> AH AH_- watch that re: expectations
CRUNKYEAH> it's just nice to know that i could have that kind of potential if i'm doing everything right
CRUNKYEAH> watch it how??
Laly> if you're mind is already "I don't expect that will happen"
Laly> then in all likely hood - it probably won't
Laly> already shutting the body off to its fullest potential
CRUNKYEAH> well lets put it this way, i have hopes it will happen eventually
CRUNKYEAH> just not two weeks
CRUNKYEAH> i dont think i'm tuned into my body enough
Laly> better :)
Laly> it will come
CRUNKYEAH> for me this whole relaxation and inner self thing is relatively new
CRUNKYEAH> oh yes it will come when its ready
CRUNKYEAH> i just dont know when
CRUNKYEAH> but i really enjoy the relaxing part, its very soothing
Laly> i wasnt expecting it either crunk-- it scared the bejeets out of me
CRUNKYEAH> and eases the muscles
CRUNKYEAH> really?
Laly> it was for me too--re: the inner self n relaxation
Laly> oh yeah
Laly> i panicked big time-- thankfully I had a fellow KSMO member whom i was talking with
CRUNKYEAH> so it sounds like i'm sort of on the right track?:D
Laly> at the time-- he called me and helped me through it all.
Laly> yeah
CRUNKYEAH> glad you had him there then
Laly> me too...
CRUNKYEAH> was it scary for the next time it happened?
CRUNKYEAH> for the second time?
Laly> no
CRUNKYEAH> so it was intensely enjoyable after the first one?
Laly> immensely
CRUNKYEAH> sounds wonderful
CRUNKYEAH> i can't wait
Laly> so much - I lost all feeling - of where I was
CRUNKYEAH> is it anything close to a 'traditional' orgasm?
CRUNKYEAH> total ecstacy?
Laly> didnt see, smell, feel,, just WAS pleasure at its basest level
Laly> yes total
Laly> no-- in re: to traditional orgasms
CRUNKYEAH> oh wow, that sounds amazing
CRUNKYEAH> ive seen posts of people saying it makes traditional orgams much more enjoyable
Epicurien> CRUNKYEAH: Thank you for the pieces of advice, I just replied to your post.
CRUNKYEAH> did you have any while learning ksmo to compare them?
Laly> it does...
CRUNKYEAH> alrighty epic, ill take a look;)
Laly> to be honest-- no
Laly> hi epi
Epicurien> traditional orgasms are indeed a lot better for me even though I did not experience MMOs so far
Epicurien> Good morning Laly :)
Laly> not while practicing KSMO
Epicurien> but I find them somewhat boring... lol I like KSMO sessions a lot more :)
CRUNKYEAH> huh, interesting post epic
Epicurien> anyway, gotta go, have a nice day guys :)
Laly> take care epi
CRUNKYEAH> you too :)
CRUNKYEAH> i have another question
Laly> ask away
CRUNKYEAH> the arousal thats generated from making the KS
Epicurien> and Laly, I just want to point out that I posted my KS samples for Jack to review, and I'm dying to find out what he has to say about it... If you could let him know, I would greatly appreciate it :)
CRUNKYEAH> is that anything like being physically turned on?
CRUNKYEAH> epic look forward to another post on your page ^^
Epicurien> I know that he's busy but I'm a really curious guy, I apologize :S
Laly> I will epi - thanks
Epicurien> Have a wonderful day you two! :)
CRUNKYEAH> you too :)
Laly> no apologies needed epi--
Laly> in my opinion crunk-- yeah
CRUNKYEAH> is it more, i dunno how to say
CRUNKYEAH> does it make you feel better than being physically turned on?
CRUNKYEAH> at this point i don't understand how i could be aroused without being turned on, but like i said i'm not that tuned into my body yet
CRUNKYEAH> this is the first form of self exploration i've ever done and to be completely honest i don't know why i didn't look into any of this earlier in life
Laly> re: arousal versus physically being tunred on
Laly> turned
Laly> Things that I found used to turn me on-no longer do
CRUNKYEAH> so would you say that ksmo has hindered your libido/sex drive?
Laly> oh --:o ...no hindered
Laly> not
Laly> my perceptions of sex/about sex have changed
Laly> since learning ksmo
CRUNKYEAH> hmm so are there things that turn you on now that didn't before?
Laly> not things-- the energy that some people have
Laly> that they exclude out-- i hope that sounds right
CRUNKYEAH> you are able to tell peoples' energy just by looking at them?
CRUNKYEAH> i think i understand it
CRUNKYEAH> the energy that they give off?
Laly> looking at them-- or being around them
Laly> yes :)
CRUNKYEAH> oh wow how interesting
CRUNKYEAH> is it in the way that they move or how they stand or?
Laly> could be both
Laly> it depends
CRUNKYEAH> hmmm i see
Laly> since learning ksmo-- i've learned that I am an energy sensitive person
CRUNKYEAH> when did you realize you could see this energy that people give off?
Laly> not see-- feel it
CRUNKYEAH> i think i know what you mean
CRUNKYEAH> okay well feel, when did you discover you could feel peoples' energy?
Laly> when I started learning how to do Quantum Touch healing method
Laly> and got a Reiki healing attunement
Laly> so about a year or so ago
CRUNKYEAH> hmmm
CRUNKYEAH> so would you say that ksmo is the tip of the iceberg as far as ritualistic things go?
CRUNKYEAH> id like to delve into those things myself, but i wouldn't want any of them to halt or affect my ksmo learning
Laly> yes :)
Laly> i didnt start- until I became a KSMO adept
CRUNKYEAH> would you say that's a smart thing to do?
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> so how do you know you're an adept?
CRUNKYEAH> did you have hundreds of ksmo induced orgasms before concluding this or?
Laly> i no longer need to use the Key sound to orgasm
CRUNKYEAH> so that's when you know you're an adept?
Laly> yes
Laly> know my body has become re-wired
Laly> attuned to the KSMO method
CRUNKYEAH> so to experience an orgasm you just focus your energy or?
CRUNKYEAH> also, what happens if you continue to use the KS while being re-wired?
Laly> i take 5-10 min to relax-- breathe in and out slowly
Laly> yes - focus energy
CRUNKYEAH> ah i see
CRUNKYEAH> i dont really understand, but i can see the how it would work
Laly> nothing different happens -- if i use KS now
CRUNKYEAH> yet still, what happens if you do use the ks?
CRUNKYEAH> ohh
Laly> other than echo effects appear faster
Laly> within 10 minutes-- am orgasm heaven :)-- for next 2-5 hours
CRUNKYEAH> echo effects being when you're not having a session or during?
CRUNKYEAH> sounds wonderful!:D
Laly> during
CRUNKYEAH> i can't wait!!
Laly> days in between the echos are not as strong-- but they are there
Laly> :)
CRUNKYEAH> can you quickly conjure up orgasms from those echoes if you try?
Laly> if i focus enough-- yes
Laly> but ONLY if i am in a safe place to do so
Laly> not in public
CRUNKYEAH> ahh does it just not work then or?
CRUNKYEAH> personally i think it would be amazing to sit in complete silence on a beach and enjoy waves of orgasms
CRUNKYEAH> without anyone knowing your secret
Laly> not work?
CRUNKYEAH> well ummm
CRUNKYEAH> does it not work in public with distractions or whatnot?
Laly> if you're truly adept at the method-- yes it is possible
CRUNKYEAH> or is it your personal choice to be alone and in a secure place?
Laly> and-- may jack not shoot me-- i have done so
Laly> in the pdf file it suggests not doing in public as it is a "sexual" act
CRUNKYEAH> ksmo in a public place?
CRUNKYEAH> ahhh yeah i remember now
CRUNKYEAH> well as i see it, if you're just laying completely quiet in the sun on a beach
CRUNKYEAH> people wouldn't see it as a sexual act
Laly> LOL....
CRUNKYEAH> it would just be another beach bum soakin the rays up
Laly> yeah--
CRUNKYEAH> but i dunno if that would work the way i see it, glad you laugh at the idea haha
Laly> but the energy you are casting off--whether u realize or not-- is sexually charged
Laly> i laughed-- cause it triggered a memory of mine
Laly> i went to mexico for a week in 2006
Laly> on a tour trip-- went to a optional nude beach
CRUNKYEAH> how curious, you could tell the energy of that without actually seeing me
Laly> altho it wasnt mentioned in the brochure :o
CRUNKYEAH> ahh perfect place for ksmo :p
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> haha i would like to try that some day
CRUNKYEAH> my girl and i went to one of the beaches here on oahu and the waves and such are so relaxing
CRUNKYEAH> the sand between your toes and everything, i love the beach
CRUNKYEAH> i hope you don't mind how much i talk, i'm just very curious about this whole thing, it sounds amazing
Laly> me too
Laly> no i don't mind
CRUNKYEAH> well thats good :)
Laly> it was amazing
CRUNKYEAH> a somewhat random question,
CRUNKYEAH> what's the longest time you've ever kept going with a session?
Laly> longest- um .....a full hour
Laly> with echos lasting well into 8 hours after
CRUNKYEAH> jeeze
Laly> <blushing
CRUNKYEAH> echoes being?
CRUNKYEAH> just waves of pleasure?
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> hehe don't be embarassed i think its a wonderful talent i soon hope to acquire
Laly> and some being minor orgasms themselves
CRUNKYEAH> minor meaning not full body or just not as intense?
Laly> think of it as riding in a rowboat without oars in the ocean- cresting wave after wave
Laly> yes
Laly> to both
CRUNKYEAH> ahh good analogy
CRUNKYEAH> so when you have an orgasm that isn't full body is it just wherever you focused your energy or?
Laly> just opening the tap of energy and letting it flow
CRUNKYEAH> hmm, well when the orgasm is an echo from an intense session where would this tap of energy be?
Laly> for me-- from the heart
CRUNKYEAH> so this would be the so called heartgasm?
Laly> but most of time it centers out from the belly
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> ahh i see
CRUNKYEAH> have you ever had one in your brain?
Laly> right now the energy is running up an down my spine, through arms and up neck
Laly> yes i have
Laly> feet are tingling
CRUNKYEAH> ahh exciting
CRUNKYEAH> i want to feel the energy like you do
CRUNKYEAH> do you think my age has anything to do with how fast i can learn to feel it?
Laly> patience-- it will come
Laly> as i said in the post- -no
CRUNKYEAH> just my willingness to surrender to the feelings?
Laly> YES!! exactly :D
CRUNKYEAH> what is the meaning of the word surrender in that context?
CRUNKYEAH> surrender as in relax my way to more pleasure rather than using stimulation?
Laly> let go of worry,
Laly> de-engage the brain
Laly> dis-engage-- sorry
CRUNKYEAH> dis-engage it? im confused
Laly> it depends on how much stimulation you're appling
Laly> let go of-- what if I am doing this wrong- or what if I am not going to feel this or that
CRUNKYEAH> hmm well to be honest i don't plan on using any stimulation until i get at least one orgasm from ksmo
CRUNKYEAH> i'm not sure how well this will pan out
CRUNKYEAH> lol
CRUNKYEAH> i'm trying to let go, i really am
CRUNKYEAH> when i do my sessions i don't think about anything, i just focus on the feeling part
Laly> and are you feeling any pleasurable sensations at all w/out any stimulation
Laly> anyway in your body?
CRUNKYEAH> is that a step in the right direction?
Laly> ok good re: feeling
CRUNKYEAH> well my first real session is blogged
CRUNKYEAH> i would say so
CRUNKYEAH> in my first session i had what felt like a warm ripple wave
CRUNKYEAH> in my calves going to my feet
CRUNKYEAH> and in my forearms going to my hands
CRUNKYEAH> it felt warm and soothing
Laly> great!!
CRUNKYEAH> i'll be trying again on monday since i can't get any alone time this weekend
CRUNKYEAH> its only on the days i don't do it that i wonder if I'm doing anything right
Laly> let go of that k--
Laly> that is over-analyzing things
CRUNKYEAH> i will surely try
CRUNKYEAH> a random question: how long do the live coaching sessions last?
Laly> a mind trap that Jack refers to
CRUNKYEAH> i tend to do that a lot :o
Laly> it depends on how many are here
Laly> i've seen them from 20 min to 4-5 hours
CRUNKYEAH> oh wow
CRUNKYEAH> would it be beneficial for my learning experience to attend all of them i possibly can?
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> i will plan on that then
CRUNKYEAH> on the tab to the left, is that where they are hosted?
Laly> there have been times I have attended that someone will bring something up
Laly> that i hadnt thought of or been aware may be bothering me
Laly> right here-- where we are right now
CRUNKYEAH> oh sweet
CRUNKYEAH> something that helped you along?
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> well that's good
CRUNKYEAH> how long did it take before you truly knew you were re-wired?
Laly> about a year
Laly> but I took a break from KSMO
Laly> the practice triggered somethign in me i hadnt planned on
CRUNKYEAH> ohh, how long?
Laly> or been aware of
Laly> 4-5 month break
CRUNKYEAH> what did it trigger?
Laly> *takes deep breath n releases
Laly> memories of being raped many years ago
CRUNKYEAH> uh oh, its bad i take it?
CRUNKYEAH> eeek, sorry you had to go through that
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> are you okay now??
Laly> thanks , is something i wish on no one :(
CRUNKYEAH> i could imagine so
CRUNKYEAH> if you don't mind, i have a question about something like that
CRUNKYEAH> i know about the 'furballs'
Laly> sure
CRUNKYEAH> my girlfriend was molested when she was 5
Laly> :(
CRUNKYEAH> she knows about it and has known about it for a while, 4 or 5 years i'd say
CRUNKYEAH> i don't believe she is over griefing for it
CRUNKYEAH> i'm not sure how to help her with it
CRUNKYEAH> because it's so troubling for her
Laly> burying or denying it happened?
CRUNKYEAH> burying
CRUNKYEAH> she doesn't deny it
Laly> oh yeah- i bet-- i can relate very well
CRUNKYEAH> i bet you can, thats why i asked ;)
CRUNKYEAH> do you have any tips for me?
Laly> thing is-- with burying it, it doesn't make it go away
CRUNKYEAH> i treat her with tender loving care every day i'm with her (she doesn't let it show very often) but I don't know how else to help her
Laly> cause something/one will come that'll un-bury it-- the memories
CRUNKYEAH> the first time they were unburied her father hit her or was yelling at her or something along those lines, and then she had flashbacks and dreams of it
Laly> has she-- or would she be open to seeing a trained sexual abuse counselor about it
Laly> WOW
CRUNKYEAH> she may be, but at this point in our lives we can't afford going to see one about it
CRUNKYEAH> i'm sure she'd be ok with herself without one, but it's an issue (having a psychology class under my belt) that I believe needs taken care of
CRUNKYEAH> i can see how it affects her and her relationship with her parents
Laly> yes
Laly> on both accounts
CRUNKYEAH> do you think there's anything i can do about it other than going to see a professional?
Laly> I am gonna recommend a book - for her ...that I found very helpful for me
Laly> support her...encourage her ,
CRUNKYEAH> ooohh she likes reading
CRUNKYEAH> oh i do, every second of every day
Laly> "The sexual healing journey: a guide for survivors of sexual abuse"
Laly> by Wendy Maltz
Laly> let her know you're there, if and when she's ready to open up and talk about it
Laly> and most of all-- have patience
CRUNKYEAH> i'll be on top of it, thanks :D
Laly> it took my friend a couple of months of us talking before I shared mine with him
Laly> you are very welcome
CRUNKYEAH> well i'm glad you could open up and get that problem fixed
Laly> and another 5-6 months to get me to see a trained counselor near him
Laly> far from fixed...but alot has been healed
CRUNKYEAH> how long did it take before you were over it?
CRUNKYEAH> ah well i'm glad for that
CRUNKYEAH> i'm sure it makes you better off
Laly> am finally ready to be love-- for love
Laly> be loved
CRUNKYEAH> thats wonderful :)
Laly> re: how long ...not sure
CRUNKYEAH> i have a question, pertaining to your ksmo adept-ness and your ritualistic experiences
Laly> last nite-- got a call that man who raped me is back in my area
Laly> sure
CRUNKYEAH> before you went through all of the exploration and stuff and the
CRUNKYEAH> wow wierd
CRUNKYEAH> sorry one sec
CRUNKYEAH> before you went through all of that, how did you view love compared to what you feel about it now?
CRUNKYEAH> i would move out or get a restraining order to be honest by the way
Laly> before-- i felt that I didnt deserve to live - let alone be loved , feel love
CRUNKYEAH> but thats just me
CRUNKYEAH> well i'm glad you're still here, even if i just met you ^^
Laly> after i was raped, i just withdrew from everything and everyone
Laly> living day to day
CRUNKYEAH> i understand what that's like
CRUNKYEAH> what about now? now that he's in your area and all that
Laly> couldnt bear having anyone touch me
Laly> now- will wait and see
Laly> he is working with my brother-- not sure where at
CRUNKYEAH> i read your blog about it
CRUNKYEAH> did you hear his voice over the phone?
Laly> i dont think my brother realizes who this is.
Laly> no
Laly> my brother passed his message along last nite
CRUNKYEAH> oh i see
CRUNKYEAH> i would be careful
CRUNKYEAH> i hope things don't go sour on you, that would be very unfortunate
Laly> i wont let it
CRUNKYEAH> thats good to hear
CRUNKYEAH> oh umm, another random question
Laly> ok
CRUNKYEAH> how do you categorize your blogs?
Laly> there is a link in your profile setting
Laly> where you can create a blog category
CRUNKYEAH> alrighty i'll check it out
CRUNKYEAH> do you have any questions for me btw?
Laly> :)-- if you'd like , we can do that -- step by step
Laly> before jack shows for the chat in mere 47 min
CRUNKYEAH> actually that sounds good haha
CRUNKYEAH> i can't seem to find it
CRUNKYEAH> currently viewing my profile
Laly> ok-- can u open a 2nd internet browser- with the forum in it
Laly> leaving this one open too
CRUNKYEAH> sure thing
CRUNKYEAH> done
Laly> k -
Laly> see the Blogs word above this chat box
CRUNKYEAH> yep
Laly> click that and the blogs page will appear
CRUNKYEAH> already done hehe
Laly> ok- at far left of screen -- there is box called "blog options"
Laly> or "options" sorry
Laly> and below in that box--blog control panel
CRUNKYEAH> which link do i click?
CRUNKYEAH> control panel?
Laly> the blog control panel
CRUNKYEAH> ahh i found it
CRUNKYEAH> thank you ^^
Laly> got it?
Laly> then click blog categories link
CRUNKYEAH> Yep i made a new one just like i wanted
CRUNKYEAH> do you know how to move blogs to different categories?
Laly> awesome
Laly> yes
CRUNKYEAH> do i have to edit the category?
Laly> click which blogs you would like moved
Laly> no
Laly> if have several-need to do one blog entry at a time
CRUNKYEAH> alright i clicked on it
CRUNKYEAH> Session #1
CRUNKYEAH> there's only one
Laly> ok--have that blog up on 2nd screeN?
CRUNKYEAH> yep
Laly> in the lower gith hand corner of that blog entry == there's a lil blue person, a pencil, a triangle and so on
Laly> right hand corner
Laly> click the pencil-- that's the edit link
CRUNKYEAH> got it
Laly> scroll down towards bottom
CRUNKYEAH> thanks again
Laly> to additional options box
CRUNKYEAH> hehe i'm a quick learner
Laly> you are welcome again
Laly> just click which one you want and then click save changes button
CRUNKYEAH> yep its pretty easy once you figure out which buttons do what
Laly> hi mog- hi Jack,
Laly> yeah
CRUNKYEAH> :eek: how can you tell Jack is here?
Laly> in my -umm -- off time-- i play around alot in here
CRUNKYEAH> I see mog though, howdy
Laly> <tis secret
CRUNKYEAH> nothing wrong with that ;)
CRUNKYEAH> darn lol
Laly> well-- to be honest-- i am the one who went thru entire forum
Laly> when we first moved to Vbulletin and fixed broken or outdated links
CRUNKYEAH> oh wow, i bet that was a task
Laly> yes, but to a tech person, was fun
Laly> :D
CRUNKYEAH> computer savvy are we?
CRUNKYEAH> lalalala testing testing
Laly> *chuckles...modest blush...yeah
CRUNKYEAH> how do you get the font to stay one color?
CRUNKYEAH> oh wow thats hard to read lol
Laly> hard to read that color crunk
Laly> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
CRUNKYEAH> can you do programming and all that?
CRUNKYEAH> i noticed :P
CRUNKYEAH> sorry sorry! i was just testing
Laly> some-- depending on the system
Laly> is okay re:testing
CRUNKYEAH> i bet this is tough!
Laly> you can have present font set-up under your profile
Laly> not as much as green was
Laly> lol
CRUNKYEAH> oh i see, so the drop down menu won't work all the time unless you change it all the time?
CRUNKYEAH> yeah its impossible to read on anything but black
CRUNKYEAH> how bout 'dis? :P
Laly> drop down menu- wouldnt BE needed :)
Laly> nope
CRUNKYEAH> wouldn't be needed how?
CRUNKYEAH> this may hurt the eyes, sorry for all my color curiousity aha
Laly> i ois ok
Laly> LOL-- oops
Laly> is ok
Laly> hard telling by the #s what colors are
CRUNKYEAH> its all good :P
CRUNKYEAH> yeah it is
Laly> only time i use drop down menu is if i wanted to emphasize what i was saying at any one point
CRUNKYEAH> ahh i see, why wouldn't you just bold it though?
Laly> or italicize
CRUNKYEAH> just seeing if other html colors work
Laly> k brb-- need to find some lunch before chat starts
CRUNKYEAH> or that
CRUNKYEAH> lol mmk
Laly> back
Laly> Mog must be replying to posts
CRUNKYEAH> could be
CRUNKYEAH> so it looks like us 3 then?
Laly> so far
Laly> yep he just replied to yours crunk :)
CRUNKYEAH> 4 with Jack?
CRUNKYEAH> oooo:eek:
Laly> lol
Laly> yep - 4 with Mr Jack
Laly> only IF mog decides to join the chat
CRUNKYEAH> I'll save my questions for our chat hah
CRUNKYEAH> do the later chats normally get more people?
Laly> ok
Laly> not really-
Laly> just different members
CRUNKYEAH> ahh i see
Laly> rumel, buster,
CRUNKYEAH> maybe i'll alternate which ones i go to then, as to get the most opinions and varied questions
Laly> me if i am awake at that time
Laly> coudl attend both if you so desire :)
Laly> could
CRUNKYEAH> i know i won't be lol i stayed up like 5 hours later than i should
CRUNKYEAH> maybe a later date but not today
Laly> wow
Laly> okay-- no worries
CRUNKYEAH> yeah it's like 7 am here
CRUNKYEAH> way late for my nocturnal-ness lol the sun is coming up
Laly> noon time here--
CRUNKYEAH> east coast huh?
Jack> ***** Welcome to the Multiple Orgasm Trigger™ Training and Discussion Forum of 20090124 hosted personally by Jack Johnston MA
Laly> yes crunk
Jack> Hey Crunkyeah, you're doing EXACTLY the RIGHT THING by posting your questions to the Forum and using this ChatBox to get all the help you need!
Jack> This is how you learn!
Laly> <is blushing BIG time now
CRUNKYEAH> Thanks :) I plan on doing this right the first time
Jack> Sorry you can't stick around now, but I hope you'll come to the chat at 0200GMT after you get some zzzzzzzzz's
Jack> We want to get all of your questions answered!
CRUNKYEAH> Oh I can stick around for this one, but I got things to do, so maybe the later one might have to wait for another day
CRUNKYEAH> Well I can think of one off the top of my head Laly and I briefly discussed
Jack> Sure no worries either way... nice to have you here. And Warm Greetings to Laly and to Grandmaster OMG MOG... who's been about, as well. ;)
CRUNKYEAH> Indeed, howdy howdy
Jack> Please go ahead, Crunkyeah, and maybe give us a little idea about you, while maintaining whatever privacy one can practically expect on the Internet, even with a pseudonym. :) Anyway though: answer any or none of these questions to help us get to know you:
CRUNKYEAH> I'm fairly open ^^ shoot
Jack> Your age, marital status, gender, orientation, experience with multiorgasmic practices, reason for starting this practice. And any other questions you may have. You always have the option to NOT answer a question, by the way. :)
Jack> Also how you found this website. :D
CRUNKYEAH> 18, in a relationship, M, straight, no previous experiences, reason being self exploration
CRUNKYEAH> Ironically enough I found it through google
CRUNKYEAH> And looking at it now, this is the best buy on the net for what you're selling, sex toys can be much more expensive and give nowhere near the pleasure (taking your word on it)
CRUNKYEAH> So I can safely say I'm happy to finally join up ;)
Jack> All Good, Crunkyeah! Thanks also very much for the kudos, I and WE appreciate them very much!
CRUNKYEAH> My name is Cory too, if you'd like to address me that way whatever works for me
Laly> :)
CRUNKYEAH> Anytime ^^
Jack> I'm glad you've already had a chance to benefit from the expertise of some of our Adepts such as Laly and Mog.
CRUNKYEAH> Mmhmm they're very insightful and helpful too ;);)
Laly> :)
Jack> Yes they are... I learn from them all the time! :D
CRUNKYEAH> Hopefully I'll have some things to teach once I become an adept too
Laly> aww--blushing profusely
CRUNKYEAH> Can I let loose the questions? haha
Jack> Undoubtedly! :)
CRUNKYEAH> hehehe:p
Jack> Yes by all means! Questions!
Laly> yes crunk--
CRUNKYEAH> alright first question, when making the KS, which part of the chest is supposed to vibrate?
CRUNKYEAH> When I make the KS it feels a lot lower than my vocal chords somewhere near my sternum
Laly> yep - dead on -- so to speak
CRUNKYEAH> The rolling part between the two sounds, is that supposed to go deeper down?
Jack> Yeah, as you relax more - little by little, you'll tend to notice the vibrations further down.
CRUNKYEAH> Sometimes it makes my stomach churn after I get a good resonate KS out
Jack> Don't force it. A key word is >>> ALLOW...
CRUNKYEAH> I'll keep that in mind
CRUNKYEAH> Allow and feel in return?
Jack> Just take your time... you can just do relaxing breathing while the churning is happening, and little the energies settle down again before amping up again with additional Key Sounds™.
CRUNKYEAH> Ahh I see, I normally kept going and tried to ignore the churning, but I'll wait for it to settle before making more KSs
Jack> When the energies from your upper body meet those rising up from your lower body, that's the BIG HOOKUP! :D :D
CRUNKYEAH> Woo, so it would seem I'm on the right path?
Jack> ONE kind, any way... there are many, once all of the Awakenings get going.
CRUNKYEAH> Awakenings being?
Jack> RE: You're question about right path... what's YOUR hunch re: the answer?
Laly> kind of like I mentioning earlier crunk...
CRUNKYEAH> I think I am so therefor I am?
CRUNKYEAH> Wait a sec, is this the mind noise thing?
Jack> Well, it's not just positive thinking although of course when that's authentic, it's a great boost... That will happen in time if it isn't already (more than you realize?).
Jack> LOL yeah could be re: Mind Noise... you start chasing your tail. That can be fun too some times. Whenever I've seen a dog chase their tail, they always seem to be smiling.
Jack> But it's not a whole lifestyle. :)
CRUNKYEAH> Haha that's a good observation I find funny, mostly because it's true
CRUNKYEAH> Alright so I have a question about mind noise
CRUNKYEAH> Which might be a bit more literal
Jack> You seem to have a very open attitude toward just enjoying what discoveries your deeper wisdom gives you, and that's very cool.
CRUNKYEAH> When beginning to relax and prepare for a session, is there any simple way to just turn the thoughts button in my mind off?
CRUNKYEAH> I always seem to think about the most random things all the time
CRUNKYEAH> Why thank you :D
Jack> Or just observe it, as part of who you are. Marvel and how much
Jack> those parts of you are takin' care of business all the time!
Laly> yep
CRUNKYEAH> That
CRUNKYEAH> err
CRUNKYEAH> That's a good way to think of it, normally I just try to focus and shut out the noise
Laly> I sometimes play relaxing music beforehand crunk
Jack> It may continue to some degree, off and on and off again... part of your cognitive biorhythm... takin' care of business...
Laly> like now- listening to Reiki music, very relaxing.
Jack> VERY good suggestions imho, Laly!
CRUNKYEAH> So I should just let it do as it pleases and observe it?
Laly> (Welcome Smithie)
Jack> Heyyy Smithie, Welcome Back!!!
CRUNKYEAH> I'm not familiar to Reiki music but I do listen to a lot of sythetic 'chillout' music
CRUNKYEAH> Howdy Smithie
Jack> Crunkyeah - yeah - along with enjoying the new Echo Effects™ sensations.
Jack> Enjoy their awakening... and the awakening of YOUR awareness of them.
CRUNKYEAH> I haven't experienced any of those yet but I'm watching out for them
Jack> Fasten your seatbelt... you're sliding in to the driver's seat of a Ferrari.
CRUNKYEAH> Ooo sounds thrilling
Laly> *grins
Jack> That's fine, re: not yet, Crunk... all in good time... you're noticing new sensations, sorting things out... all aOK !
CRUNKYEAH> I'd rather a '69 Camaro with a big block and 4 speed on the floor though, no offense :P
Jack> None taken!
CRUNKYEAH> Yes, I like to think that I'm relearning my body
CRUNKYEAH> The few new sensations I had were definately something I haven't experienced before
Jack> That's a perfect frame of reference, in my opinion... That's GREAT that you're already experiencing unprecedented sensations!
Laly> awesome.
Jack> THAT is what I mean by AWAKENING. :D
CRUNKYEAH> Ohhhh, I have a question about a tingly feeling NOT related to ksmo
Jack> And just like you GENTLY awaken a friend...
CRUNKYEAH> Sometimes when I watch anything inspiring, I'll get a tingle up and down my spine
CRUNKYEAH> And it feels as if I have goosebumps
CRUNKYEAH> But the hairs aren't raised or anything
Jack> Yeah that is GREAT Crunk!
CRUNKYEAH> Have either of you experienced anything like this?
Laly> i do
CRUNKYEAH> That's good to hear, it actually happens quite frequently to me
CRUNKYEAH> In fact, Laly and I had a conversation earlier that kinda did that to me
Laly> oh?
CRUNKYEAH> In particular we were talking about echo effects and minor orgasms? the ones you said normally come from your heart or belly region?
CRUNKYEAH> I tried to imagine the feeling of something like that, and I got a little shiver down my spine
Laly> ah - yes :).
Laly> THAT is an echo effect crunck
Jack> That's the beginning of the wonderful dialogue that gets going. :)
CRUNKYEAH> I can't wait hehe, it's exciting stuff
Jack> Yep, like Laly says... that's an Echo Effect. :)
CRUNKYEAH> Do either of you have any questions for me?
Laly> i don't .
Laly> do you have any more for us??
Jack> How did you hear about this practice, and what inspired you to learn it?
CRUNKYEAH> Umm not off the top of my head and I probably should catch some z's
CRUNKYEAH> I was googling male multiple orgasm and came onto this site
CRUNKYEAH> I read some posts of success stories and just what everyone says about it
CRUNKYEAH> it's very inspiring to me
CRUNKYEAH> Our conversation in the past 50 minutes has been inspiring
Jack> Hey no worries. I hope you'll post about that if / when you feel like it, plus of course whatever else you notice as the Echo Effects™ continue to appear.
CRUNKYEAH> Laly answered a bunch of questions earlier about posture and stuff, just the way she describes it is inspiring
Jack> I'm VERY glad you've enjoyed our chat, I have too, with MANY thanks to Ms. Laly as well!
CRUNKYEAH> Oh I'll be sure to blog it ^^
Jack> Excellent!
Jack> B
Jack> btw Crunkyeah, where are you typing from?
CRUNKYEAH> I'll likely be around so I'm sure you'll hear lots more about it if I am
CRUNKYEAH> Oh umm, right now Oahu HI, normally Montana
Jack> Sounds great, Thanks! Have a good weekend, and Sweet Dreams!
CRUNKYEAH> Gotta love vacation ^^
Jack> Sweet! Aloha!
CRUNKYEAH> Thanks, have a good weekend yourself
CRUNKYEAH> Take it easy, thanks for the tips :D
Jack> You're very welcome! Bye for now!
Laly> take care Crunk--sleep well :)
Jack> How's life, Ms. Laly?
Laly> oh boy
Laly> if you read my latest blog you would know
Laly> is at an -- OH SH!T time right now :(
Jack> Yeah have you checked in with your counselor since this happened?
Laly> no
Laly> i had planned to this am-- but then got caught up taking with crunk for 3 hours in here today
Laly> *talking, not taking
Jack> What are your plans?
Laly> *sighs n releasing breath was holding
Laly> email her
Laly> yes-- was glad very much for it last nite-in form of Drew
Jack> Isn't it nice to FEEL your SUPPORT SYSTEM?
Laly> yes :).
Jack> Wonderful! :)
Jack> This is something you created in your life, Laly.
Jack> This support network.
Jack> Well done!
Laly> thanks.
Jack> You've gone out and found it...
Jack> And have invested a LOT of your truth in it, and it IS there (and here) for you.
Laly> :).
Jack> Yeah. :)
Jack> Do you think you'll be at the chat this eve?
Laly> tonite-- yes
Laly> why?
Jack> Ok, great! Shall we bookmark, til then?
Laly> k
Laly> after sharing with crunk this am-- not really ready to delve back into it just yet
Jack> k, will s/w/u then. And of course there's no rule that you have to delve, this evening either! :) YOU get to CHOOSE! :)
Laly> i know...but u know me ;)
Laly> i don't let that keep me from it.
Jack> LOL I hear ya! And Good On Ya!
Laly> until tonite then
Laly> hi rumel
Jack> mais oui!
Jack> ***** END Multiple Orgasm Trigger™ Training and Discussion Forum of 20090124 hosted personally by Jack Johnston MA
rumel> Hi Laly, Jack Smithie
Jack> To be continued at 0200 GMT.
Laly> am sorry i missed u the other day rumel
Jack> Oh! Hi Rumel! We were just wrapping up the chat.
Laly> what did u want?
rumel> I guess I'm late to the party!
Laly> uh uh-- never late to party sweetie :)
Jack> Hey no worries, rumel!
rumel> I'll try to catch the late show then. See you all later, have a pleasant afternoon.
Laly> (just losing um chaperone ;) )
Laly> lol
Laly> u too rumel
Jack> ok, great rumel... see you then!
Laly> btw - i ordered the The Thrive diet book jack
Jack> Well done, Laly!
Session stop: Sat Jan 24 22:05:49 2009