• donnoi,laly,drew,hlaser, and poohbear join Jack for a discussion on orgasm, evolution of KSMO practice, beginning experiences, and furballs.
• donnoi discusses orgasm as being an energetic state which flows as opposed to an event. Jack says this is an important point to remember in KSMO practice. The discussion continues about the movement of sensations throughout the body instead of concentrating in the genital area.
• drew talks about the progression of his practice over the years from learning to slow down and relax to obtaining counseling to deal with emotional issues, then realizing the benefits of exercise. He reports recent "breakthrough" results with incredible sensations. Jack congratulates his successes.
• poohbear, who is new to the practice, but has experience with Kundalini discusses his experience with KSMO reporting mild flowing sensations through his body and describes them as a feeling of release.
• The session concludes with a discussion on emotional furballs.

Session Start: Sat May 05 09:12:24 2007
laly> hi donnoi!
JackJ> Hello donnoi! How are you?
laly> welcome -
donnoi> Hi there!
JackJ> Where are you typing from today?
donnoi> Just dropping by ... from Albuquerque NM
JackJ> Welcome Drew! BTW, could you pls change your chat login name to just "Drew" so it'll match your name in the Forum?
laly> Hi Drew.
KSMODrew> I can't (or don't know how)
JackJ> Drew, maybe Laly can teach you. I think she may be using the same chat client as you are.
KSMODrew> I tried to use the name "Drew" when registering on the new irc server... I guess it was already taken!)
KSMODrew> (How do you think Laly got in!)
JackJ> hmm that's possible. Ok, no worries. We can change it at edit if need be.
ksmo_laly> k
ksmo_laly> how's this Jack??
KSMODrew> (If possible, I'd love to know how to do it!)
JackJ> Laly, pls change back to just Laly. You only need the one log in.
JackJ> Hey hlaser, welcome!
Hlaser> Hey~!
laly> i did jack-
JackJ> I think donnoi said he may have a bit of a time crunch so I'd like to let him go first.
JackJ> thanks Laly!
JackJ> Maybe you can IM Drew to tell him how you did it.
laly> k -gotta scoot ya all... take care
Hlaser> Me too, don't hav much time, but nothing to say!
Hlaser> Bye Laly!
KSMODrew> I can't get in via FIre! Connection seems to be very hit-or-miss for me.
donnoi> Hi again all. I don't have an agenda. I have been working in some things ...
Hlaser> Fly on the wall...
JackJ> donnoi, for the sake of people reading the chat transcript, could you pls start by a quick summary of how long you've been practicing the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol and what your experiences have been.
JackJ> You have the Talking Stick, donnoi!
donnoi> Well. has it been nearly 2 years? I think so ...
JackJ> (Laly said she'd possibly be back in near the end of the chat - she's at work today).
donnoi> One of the greatest things I have ever done for myself.
JackJ> Cool! You know, a lot of people read about this and just don't believe it... What can you say to them about that?
donnoi> I am into energy work and I find what I learned nere very useful in healing work and of course ...
donnoi> Pleasure ...
Drew_> I'm going to go try "Fire" one last time... BRB (hopefully)
JackJ> Would you speak a little bit to the connection of this practice to your healing work?
donnoi> I am very much more alive in my body. Want me to be more specific?
JackJ> Please, if you would. It's optional, as are all comments here, of course!
donnoi> Forgive my slow typing ...
JackJ> That's ok. Take your time.
donnoi> as I explore the process of awakening to orgasm, I am very much aware of orgasm as an energetic state ...
JackJ> Just hit the enter key every ten words or so, donnoi, then when it's our turn finish the line with terminal punctuation such as . ! or ?
JackJ> Yes that's already a VERY IMPORTANT POINT that with this practice you learn to experience orgasm as a STATE not just a brief event.
JackJ> Would you please describe that state as you experience it?
JackJ> And when (more or less) did you first realize that it was in fact actually a STATE of being rather than just an event?
donnoi> (OK) as I work with peoples emotions and body sensations as energy states, I teach them how to turn resistances into a flow dynamic.
JackJ> What's an example of a flow dynamic?
donnoi> When you are tense or stuck in am emotional state or loop, I see it as a matter of energy being stuck and needing to be be relased as a flow. Its quite orgasmic when that happens.
JackJ> When did you first become aware of that?
donnoi> It is an evolving inderstanding over the past 2 years using KSMO along with energy psychology and my tantra practice.
JackJ> That's great!
donnoi> your teaching has been a Key.
Drew_> Sounds good to me! Where do I sign up?
donnoi> I do have a web site if your interested.
JackJ> Thank you for that, donnoi, I'm glad to be of assistance in that way!
JackJ> Yes pls mention your website~!
donnoi> www.donnoi.net
Hlaser> Back...
JackJ> Very nice looking website. I just took a look.
donnoi> Its simple. I'm not a techie.
JackJ> Donnoi, could you say a little more about how you've integrated what you've learned from KSMO practice into your healing practice?
JackJ> [btw, I hope you'll consider adding a link from your site to the multiples site!]
donnoi> The desire for physical orgasm is felt as a tension, like any stuck state of mental-emotional condition
JackJ> VERY GOOD POINT!
donnoi> ( I do have a link there )
JackJ> [ok, thanks!]
donnoi> what KSMOP teaches in part is to relax into and release energy whole bodily in my understanding
JackJ> How does the KSMO practice impact addressing that tension of the physical desire?
JackJ> Yes, that's correct... To allow the rising arousal a chance to spread throughout your body without dissipating, rather than just allowing it to concentrate as a tension in the genital area.
donnoi> as the energy releases and begins to flow, more suble and more profound levels of pleasure are achieved and in a healing context attitudes shift and conditions resolve (over simplified I know)
JackJ> To relax and release energy while AT THE SAME TIME learning how to use that relaxation plus the arousal-amplifying Key Sound to gently pump that arousal to higher states of intensity.
Hlaser> Gotta Go, Folks... just stopped by to say Hi!
JackJ> Thanks hlaser! Have a good day!
Hlaser> OK, bye!
Hlaser> Your site is cool! Check it out later...
Hlaser> Donnoi...
Hlaser> bye!
donnoi> The higher states of intiesity that I help people achieve is more psychic pleasure : joy-bliss as the mental orgasm parallel of what you teach.
donnoi> BYE!!!
JackJ> donnoi would you say a little more about the connection between ALLOWING the higher levels of arousal WHILE RELAXING MORE connects to the shifts in attitudes and beliefs?
donnoi> Resistance narrows focus of awareness and the resulting tension shuts off pleasure that is available to the whole body mind.
JackJ> RE: the orgasmic sensations resulting from KSMO practice, some men say: "Yes but how do you know it's orgasm if there's not ejaculation at the same time?"
JackJ> Yes I think one shift is the realization that someone CAN experience the intense pleasure THROUGHOUT their whole body and not just in their genitals.
JackJ> It's my impression that most people have an often-unconscious belief that the ONLY way to increase arousal is by having it concentrate in the genital area.
donnoi> INHO there is a loss of but one sensation of ejaculation but the KSMOP teaches awareness of the subtlties of sensation that accompany orgasm and these are identical it seems whether emission takes place or not ... if the focus is only on the genitals one is cheating oneself and the heart and rest of the body-mind looses greatly.
JackJ> I certainly agree with that! Would you address for a moment the question so many ask: As a result of KSMO practice, how did you know you were feeling orgasm if it wasn't concentrating in your genitals, if you weren't ejaculating?
JackJ> i.e. "Yes but is it a REAL orgasm?"
JackJ> [or: "Are THEY real orgasms?"
JackJ> Drew, I'd be interested in YOUR answer to that question as well!
Drew_> OK... After Donnoi.
JackJ> Sure!
donnoi> I can feel the energy move as a forcefull breath almost through the body, involving the same musculature and a vibration of the prostate but the flow is "energetic" rather than a seminal fluid.
donnoi> This flow can also move upward or anywhere through the body.
JackJ> What is it that is flowing?
donnoi> I see it as energy ... like all sensations/feelings they have different names but underneath, their essence is energy ... don't have better name for it.
JackJ> That makes sense to me!
Drew_> Me too!
JackJ> Drew, would you please elaborate, from your experience?
JackJ> And THANKS donnoi!
donnoi> The naming of these energies depends on the degree of tension vs flow of the underlying energy which is our life force/libido as Reich might have it.
JackJ> Which of Reich's writings would recommend to our community, that might help them understand this better?
JackJ> [sorry, Drew... stand by... :-) ]
Drew_> I'm here...
donnoi> I don't have one I can recomend right now. Thanks for the talking stick.
JackJ> Ok, thank you VERY much! One of Reich's books that comes to mind for me is The Function of the Orgasm.
Drew_> It has a 'function'? I just think they feel pretty darn good! ;-)
JackJ> Also, Dr. Beverly Whipple (Emeritus Professor, Rutgers) and several of her colleagues have just released a compendium called The Science of Orgasm.
donnoi> Thanks
JackJ> You're welcome!
JackJ> Ok, Drew, would you please say a bit more about your experience, and you know these feelings are orgasm?
Drew_> Before I get into 'details'... The first thing that I want to say is... There is NO DOUBT!
JackJ> That's a great starting point!
JackJ> :-()
JackJ> :-)
Drew_> I do recall in the earlier days of 'practice', that there was some doubt on my part.
JackJ> And to the readers: That is VERY common!
Drew_> tuning into subtle variations of energy/feeling was not something I was familiar with, hence, the need to practice!
JackJ> RE: some doubt, then NO DOUBT: That also speaks to that cognitive SHIFT to which donnoi was referring.
Drew_> I also recall that I needed to be patient and gentle with myself as I learned something very new and 'foreign' to me
Drew_> slowing down to tune into my body and feelings
JackJ> Slowing down and tuning IN is VERY important in learning this skill, as MANY of the clues and cues come FROM WITHIN.
Drew_> As I reflect on all of that... I realize I was really 'shut-down' emotionally
Drew_> As discussed earlier in this chat, I was tense, REALLY TENSE, and didn't even realize it!
JackJ> How did your new self-awareness affect that chronic tension?
Drew_> Well, you can only change something that you're 'aware' of...
Drew_> so those awarenesses were key
Drew_> Also, I have made no secret of the fact that my KSMO journey has gone hand in hand with regular 'counseling'
JackJ> And... as donnoi alluded... the awareness ITSELF automatically begins changing that state of tension.
JackJ> RE: counseling, yes it is VERY important to deal with the emotional furballs that come up as you begin opening more to these feelings!
Drew_> and although I don't recall ever specifically bringing up KSMO to my counselor
Drew_> my emotional growth has been a very integral part of my KSMO success.
JackJ> YES!!! It is often appropriate to get some professional assistance in healing those old wounds!
Drew_> If you don't mind, I'd like to fast-forward to my most recent experiences...
JackJ> [Welcome PoohBear!]
JackJ> Yes, please Drew!
Drew_> Thanks...
PoohBear5> (nods) Hi. PoohBear59 on KSMO = PoohBear5 here for some reason. Listening....
Drew_> I feel like just this past week I've had some HUGE breakthroughs.
JackJ> WOW!
JackJ> By all means, continue!
Drew_> Beginning with counseling, and also some changes I've made regarding my physical health.
JackJ> Good on ya!
Drew_> Essentially, I'm exercising in new ways and reaping some wonderful benefits.
Drew_> Including, but not limited to, better energy flow throughout my body...
Drew_> Guess where that's useful! ;-)
Drew_> I had two 'sessions' this week that were simply MIRACULOUS!
JackJ> What happened?
Drew_> I did them shortly after exercising
JackJ> Great way to get the energy moving!
Drew_> so I was breathing deeply and my body was well oxygenated
Drew_> Yes, that's it exactly
JackJ> VERY GOOD POINT about the role of oxygenation!
Drew_> my body responded almost immediately to the Key-Sound
Drew_> with wonderful tingling sensations in the whole pelvic area
Drew_> which quickly spread down my legs AND up my torso
Drew_> (this is where the NO DOUBT part comes in)...
Drew_> It just feels so off-the-charts wonderful, there can be no doubt!
Drew_> This week I've probably experienced my best sessions ever! :-)
JackJ> EXCELLENT NEWS Drew!!!
JackJ> CONGRATULATIONS !!!
Drew_> Yeah, my years of 'patience' etc are really reaping benefits for me now... Not just with KSMO, but life in general.
Drew_> I feel truly blessed!
JackJ> Amen!!!
JackJ> :-)
Drew_> Thanks for YOUR part in the journey, Jack!
JackJ> You are very welcome, dear friend!
PoohBear5> Was it donnoi who asked are they REAL orgasms? I have a comment on that.
Drew_> :-)
JackJ> PB, no donnoi knows the answer. :-)
PoohBear5> Then Blessed Be, DREW!
Drew_> I have a comment on that, Pooh.
PoohBear5> Oh?
Drew_> Ejaculations are NOT REAL ORGASMS!
PoohBear5> Heeheehee, ah the secret is out now.
JackJ> PB: I was posing the question to donnoi and Drew as veterans of this practice since it's a common one that people ask about having trouble believing the validity of this practice.
donnoi> Amen Drew!
PoohBear5> Well, actually that is what brought me here.
JackJ> Ejaculations are ejaculations - emissions of fluid. Orgasms are orgasms - intense rushes of pleasurable ENERGY. They can occur about the same time as ejaculation, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO! That's what most of the world still does not realize.
Drew_> To clarify...
Drew_> When 'ejaculation' is all you know who to experience, it feels pretty darned good.
Drew_> how, not who
Drew_> (or is it?) LOL
Drew_> WHen your entire body is involved, it's a whole new ballgame
PoohBear5> I have experienced both nonejaculatory orgasms and nonorgasmic ejaculations.
JackJ> [Drew: it's both who and how! :-) ]
Drew_> I have had KSMO sessions where I've chosen to ejaculate at the end... And quite frankly been 'disappointed' with the sensation
PoohBear5> Well, my nonorgasmic ejaculation was pleasurable.
JackJ> pleasurable but not orgasmically so?
PoohBear5> Very smooth sensation. Subtle. Moderately intense.
PoohBear5> It was a medication side-effect.
PoohBear5> I had voluntary control over my prostate, or I appeared to.
PoohBear5> I just relaxed and clear fluid poured out. Very slippery stuff!
PoohBear5> And the flip side is from Kundalini practice at college.
PoohBear5> I developed ability to induce syncope.
PoohBear5> Pushing the air down into the belly, or altenatively, pushing blood into the penis.
JackJ> Oh that's VERY close to the Key Sound practice!
PoohBear5> Or sort of both, a head rush, and increased sensation..... Really?
JackJ> Given your prior experience what questions brought you to explore the Multiple Orgasm Trigger protocol?
PoohBear5> It feels like home.
JackJ> :-) How so?
PoohBear5> Well, the urologist said my nonorgasmic ejaculation was just premature, and the other doctor said "don't induce syncope, it's not healthy." To hell with them both. I need people who KNOW. I believe this crowd might be those people.
JackJ> For the benefit of the readers, would you please give an operational definition in this context for syncope?
JackJ> RE: this crowd - I think you may be right! :-)
PoohBear5> Syncope: reduced blood pressure and brain oxygenation, reduction, alteration or loss of conciousness.
JackJ> Thanks!
PoohBear5> Re the crowd we'll have to see when we have our convention! Haa haa!
Drew_> My sense is that KSMO is the ANTI-syncope!
donnoi> Agreed drew.
Drew_> :-)
PoohBear5> You see, I believe....
PoohBear5> that from the most mighty king,
PoohBear5> to the lowliest garbage-picker,
PoohBear5> we are all deserving of infinite delight.
PoohBear5> From birth. It is our birthright.
Drew_> Right on, Pooh!
JackJ> I agree with that!
donnoi> YES!
Drew_> I believe it is our NATURAL state of being
donnoi> YES, YES!
JackJ> I also believe that as more people get THAT honest with who they are and how they can be, it can be a great antidote to fascism which is driven by erotophobia.
PoohBear5> So it is somewhat political for me. Moralization of pleasure is the most insidious means of political control there can be. Yes re fascistic erotophobia.
donnoi> Wow, yes!
PoohBear5> I like to think of meditation as centering conciousness in a specific way...
Drew_> Me, I just like to feel good! ;-)
PoohBear5> Hee hee. No need to make it complicated. Me, too.!
JackJ> That's a great foundation, for SURE!
JackJ> PoohBear... Since this is your first time in the chat (isn't it?) how about a little introduction (maintaining anonymity of course) re: age, where you live, orientation, etc.
PoohBear5> My Pookie-Bear says so. Red, white, Chardonnay, if it's good, I drink it, she says. Sure..
PoohBear5> I am:
PoohBear5> Catholic/Yogi/Pagan altar-boy/Boy Scout 20% gay, from "all over" miltary family, 47 years old, 5'9" tall, 190 pounds, and, er, I drive a scooter!
PoohBear5> Kinsey, um, 3, I think.
JackJ> [for the readers, please elaborate re: Kinsey Scale so they'll know what you mean by 3 - thanks! ]
PoohBear5> Hee, hee, matching scoot and underwear...
PoohBear5> Oh, Um 1 is totally straight.
PoohBear5> 2 is incidentally homo, be you male or female.
JackJ> [incidentally ~= slightly]
PoohBear5> 3, IIRC is more than incidentally, 4 is evenly bisexual, 5 is more than incidentally hetero but mostly homo, 6 is incidentally hetero, and 7 is just plain GAY AS HELL!
PoohBear5> Hee hee. I do not mean to offend.
PoohBear5> And Kinsey goes to both orientation or sensitivity and also to practice.
JackJ> LOL or Gay as Heaven as some might say!
PoohBear5> I guess we say Queer more often these days. (giggle)
JackJ> I believe Kinsey was one of the first if not THE first of the empiricists to hypothesize that sexual orientation is a SPECTRUM and not purely binary.
PoohBear5> Bailey = the Anti-Kinsey!
JackJ> He developed the 7 point scale and then in his interviews he asked people to rate THEMSELVES on that scale.
PoohBear5> Riiight.
JackJ> He really frightened the horses with that research!
JackJ> AND gave a LOT of people hope and a sorely needed reality check!@
Drew_> "Frightened the horses" LMAO
JackJ> [ btw I thought Liam Neeson did a pretty good job in the film: Kinsey ]
JackJ> :-) > Drew
JackJ> PoohBear, have you begun exploring the actual Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol practice as yet?
donnoi> incidental comment: I find through tantra that my erotic experience sometimes overflows into an sexual reversal felt as a deep understanding/identification with female sexual experience even though I am socially straight.
JackJ> I'm VERY glad you shared that!
JackJ> A way of framing that, that may be a little more comfortable for some, is to refer to the concepts of Yang and Yin rather than male and female re: the feelings and sensations.
donnoi> OK!
PoohBear5> Yes, I am an amateur musician and I sing with the college chorus. I am singing the sound out very gently at first, and enjoying the echoes that come.
JackJ> Perfect way to begin! EASY DOES IT! :-)
Drew_> I totally agree with that, donnoi!
JackJ> What Echo Effects are you noticing so far, PB?
PoohBear5> I believe the practice will lend deep emotion to my singing, with much practice....
PoohBear5> Umm...
PoohBear5> very mild, sort of a head to foot flow.
JackJ> Yeah I tend to agree re: the singing.
PoohBear5> I've always been a technical singer.
PoohBear5> Not emotive. Good sturdy chorus stock. No reason to take solo.
JackJ> What are the Echoes like physically? Tingles, goose bumps, rushes of warm or cool, or ???
JackJ> BTW, PB there are several singers among our community, including Ms. LAVA.
PoohBear5> Cool, now that I think of them. Like the aaaaah part. A realease.
PoohBear5> Oh, good.
PoohBear5> Awww... It's 3 PM EDT. Do we have to sign off?
JackJ> I like that typo! realease... real ease... nice one, PB's subconscious!
PoohBear5> I am wearing my Freudian slip to the party later.
PoohBear5>
JackJ> nope, nobody's pushing you out the door, PB!
JackJ> Good one, PB!
PoohBear5> hee hee
Drew_> What is the 'record' for a chat, Jack? About six hours?
JackJ> Yes I believe so!
PoohBear5> Wow. Really? That'
PoohBear5> is great. It's so totally anti-cyber-sex. Real sexual growth online, not a fast buzz. (not that I would now)
PoohBear5> er, know.
Drew_> These chats can be like KMSO... They keep going, and going, and going, and...
PoohBear5> Well, the party just starts at 4 and runs to 9. I wanted to mention...
JackJ> You got THAT right, Drew!
PoohBear5> before we go...
JackJ> PB in the forum do a search on "new record" for links to chats that set new records. Be sure to put the "new record" phrase in quotes.
JackJ> Yes pls continue.
PoohBear5> that my therapist (who is a County employee!) is on board. I have the audio CD for her by Jack's permission from last chat. 24 May she will get that CD, and July 7 we have a meeting with my psychiatrist to discuss this, and also medication side effects and how important sex is to me.
PoohBear5> I just came out, there. I take psych meds.
JackJ> Like I said to you privately, PB I welcome dialogue about this method with clinicians.
PoohBear5> Yes, I hope she takes the opportunity.
JackJ> "You're not alone and not to blame." PB.
JackJ> re: she. Yeah, I do too.
PoohBear5> So, When Is The Convention, and Where? (giggle)
JackJ> Whenever you get around to organizing it!
JackJ> How about Victoria BC? :-)
JackJ> Or... Montreal?
PoohBear5> OK, then, let's make my AASECT House Party a KSMO study party? We're in DC area.
PoohBear5> Montreal is nice, says my Schmoopie's sister.
PoohBear5> I am on low-budget.
JackJ> Me too! :-)
PoohBear5> I am self-employed and might negotiate a block of air tickets...but really, just for a few hours house party, that is alot of fravel for everyone.
JackJ> Yeah, my Lear is in the shop.
PoohBear5> Would folks here like to share locations? I heard Albuqueque. Used to live there on Sandia Base.
JackJ> Right now I'm on Vancouver Island, BC.
PoohBear5> That's west coast, isn't it?
JackJ> Yes.
JackJ> Canada's westernmost Province.
PoohBear5> My poly friend is in Portland and my Pookie intends to visit her friend in BC.
JackJ> ROAD TRIP!!!
donnoi> I'm moving soon to San Diego
PoohBear5> Has there ever been a real-person KSMO study session?
JackJ> Lovely weather in Sandy Ego, donnoi!
PoohBear5> I mean In-person. We're all real.
JackJ> It's been quite a while since I've done an in person workshop, but have presented
JackJ> at Body Electric intensive, as well as other venues. I don't like to travel much what with all of the gate-checks etc.
JackJ> But I'm still open to it!
JackJ> Anything else anyone would like to discuss today, or does anyone have a question for fellow chatfolk or for me?
donnoi> I made some notes for myself if your interested.
JackJ> yes please!
donnoi> Final thoughts from being in this chat [a bit technical] --
donnoi> Consider that our emotional furballs are stuck energy (tension) which is often avoided throuch a transfer of emotional content into phsysical sensation which is relased in orgasm. As Orgasmic capacity increase through ksmo practice and more subtle awareness of whole body energetic awareness - the emotional energies come to the surface which have been avoided. Consider then that this psychic tension can be addressed in simalar way
donnoi> (last word is echo's)
JackJ> Yes I agree... the energy itself may sometimes melt these furballs - psychic tensions - unresolved emotional issues - sometimes breathing THROUGH them and LOVINGLY directing the Key Sound energy through them
JackJ> may dissolve them.
donnoi> Thanks for the feedback! Breath is king.
JackJ> That said, it's important not to try to PUSH through them or past them... If they don't dissolve with this gentle penetration of loving energy, then I recommend pausing the practice and getting professional assistance in resolving them.
PoohBear5> When you say dissolve and I think Einstein and Bohr, I think stuck energy = matter, making the furball analogy even more relevant.
JackJ> And thank YOU donnoi! I LOVE the way you're integrating your KSMO practice benefits with your professional energy work practice!
donnoi> Quantum analogies are great ... experience even better.
JackJ> PB: yeah and re: Einstein and Bohr, the furballs TRANSFORM - the energy gets RELEASED and sometimes it DOES seem like you've just split the atom!
JackJ> I second THAT emotion, donnoi! :-)
donnoi> Thanks for being here to all.
JackJ> You're very welcome donnoi, and thank YOU for being here as well, and sharing your experience and insights so freely!
JackJ> Ok, anything else anyone would like to share or ask?
Drew_> What are the thirty-nine steps?
Drew_> LOL
JackJ> Drew: The Dance of Life!
JackJ> ;-)
Drew_> Ah yes, we're back to the DANCE once again.
JackJ> Yes indeed!
JackJ> [ And a great Hitchcock film, of course! ]
Drew_> [Fabulous film]
Drew_> Am I right, sir? ;-)
JackJ> Ok dear friends, I think we're wrapped for today. I'm sorry Laly couldn't make it due to work, but she doesn't work every Sat, just every 3rd one or so. We miss you Laly!
PoohBear5> Looking forward to next time....
Drew_> When is that going to be, Jack?
JackJ> Two weeks from today, same time, same channel.
Drew_> Oh! Then I know Laly and i will not be available on that day either.
PoohBear5> OK
JackJ> I've been asking for people in Hawaii, New Z, Australia, and Asia to let us know a time that would work for them, but haven't heard from anybody yet.
JackJ> Oh yeah Drew... sorry to miss you that day! Maybe we should schedule one for NEXT Saturday (I like to have SOME free Saturdays of course, but it'd be nice to chat).
JackJ> What do y'all say? Are you int'd in my scheduling a chat for next Sat?
Drew_> You may want to check with Laly...
Drew_> Are Thursdays out now?
donnoi> Sorry I can't say I'll be regular at any time.
JackJ> k. I'm not hearing a yes from anybody? I didn't mention Thursday because we had been getting pretty low attendance. If Thursday 6pm Pacific 9pm Eastern is desired by several, I'll schedule it.
PoohBear5> YEP! I am so there. Satyrday. Thursday also good. 1st and 3rd Thursdays good. (Whew, I just washed my hair in the sink. The tub is stopped. We're off to the party!)
JackJ> No worries, donnoi.
JackJ> Have fun PB!!! Don't forget your Freudian slip!
PoohBear5> The red one, right? hee hee
JackJ> Of COURSE!
Drew_> Ooo la la!
JackJ> With the black trim! LOL!
JackJ> GREAT CHAT Y'ALL!
Drew_> Yep!
JackJ> Drew... can you make a chat NEXT Saturday, if Laly can?
donnoi> dito. bye.
JackJ> And PB said he is good to go for next Sat.
Drew_> I'm not sure, Jack... My schedule tends to be like donnoi's.
JackJ> Ok, no prob.
JackJ> ttyl!
JackJ> bfn
Drew_> Byeeee
JackJ> buh byeee.
Session Close: Sat May 05 12:36:09 2007