Session Start: Thu Nov 10 18:03:48 2005

Jack> Good evening Laly!
Laly> Good evening Jack!
Jack> How are you this evening?
Laly> fantastic- happy.
Jack> That's great! What's new?
Laly> Officially off "vacation".
Jack> :-(
Laly> nooo.. don't be sad.
Jack> Or... Oh! You mean
Jack> KSMO practice vacation???
Laly> yes.
Jack> Well, then :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) !!!!
Laly> :-).
Jack> Congratulations!
Laly> felt great to have a vacation, but also nice to be back too. thanks.
Jack> Yeah, that's a really good idea to take some time off from practice every now and then...
Jack> I believe it gives our entire energy body a chance to integrate all of these new changes.
Laly> Yes.
Laly> had a devil of a time with the allowing my body to take its time
Laly> and wanted to practice so bad.. but knew that force was not a part of the practice.
Jack> How so?
Laly> I guess I had the old feeling arise of wanting to orgasm every nite .
Jack> Yeah, regardless of gender that is such a common tendency.
Jack> Sometimes it takes a little bit longer than we might expect for our emotional self to really get it that
Jack> If we slip into the trap of chasing after the orgasm, it actually tends to reduce the strength of the positive effects.
Laly> Exactly.. that is what i was trying to avoid.
Jack> It's kind of like the idea of planting a flower,
Jack> And then just standing there pouring water on it constantly, trying to get it to grow faster!
Laly> Uh huh,, defeating the purpose all together of planting flowers in the first place.
Laly> so I look to that lotus flower Jack and try to relax myself.
Jack> LOL, exactly! Welcome Ernesto
ernesto> let me listen to you guys for a while, sitting in Japan
Jack> Ernesto, please meet Laly!
Jack> Kon ban wa!
Laly> Welcome ernesto!
ernesto> in Japan, but not Japanese quite yet
Jack> I understand, LOL!
Jack> Ernesto, so we get a chance to know you better, how long have you been practicing The Multiple Orgasm Trigger Protocol method?
Jack> Also, about how old are you, and if you're OK saying so, what is your marital status, sexual orientation, etc.? Please note that at no time do I expect you to share anything that you're not comfortable sharing with us!
ernesto> That's exactly what I am trying to say, not comfortable yet, please let me listen only.
Jack> No problem at all! Thanks for saying so!
Jack> Laly, may be you could give Ernesto a little bit of idea of your story, for example about how long you been practicing this method, and what you've learned so far. IF *you* are comfortable saying so! :-)
Laly> ok ernesto -- I have been practicing KSMO for 3 months, single , 34.
Jack> Ah your
Jack> on the wavelength, Laly! :-)
Laly> yes Jack as always .
Jack> You ROCK, Girl!
Laly> and as far as what I have thus far learned with KSMO ...
Jack> Care to give Ernesto and the readers a little b4 and after KSMO summary?
Jack> [I'm just gonna be quiet now, cuz you're way ahead of me!]
Laly> *laughs..
Jack> :-)\
Laly> My life before KSMO.. was a very bleak and unhappy woman who thought she needed to have orgasms every nite just so she can sleep
Laly> and was left even unhappier and more tired afterwards - depressed even.
Laly> I rarely smiled, talked to anyone - kept to myself.
Laly> Felt ashamed and guilty even because she felt she HAD to do this every nite.
Laly> but now... since KSMO has blessed my life for the past 3 months
Laly> I have had many multiple orgasmic sessions
Laly> and my outlook on life is 100% the opposite- am excited, happy and so full of joy my heart sings daily.
Laly> and a smile never leaves my face.
Laly> I no longer feel like having an orgasm is a chore that needed to be done.
Laly> It is the single greatest blessed and sacred experience for me.
ernesto> I am impressed. am 71, male, good health. will be back in December, from Hawaii on a DSL line
Laly> Glad you are here now ernesto!!
Jack> Thanks very much Laly! Hey that's great, Ernesto! Even guys in their 80's have learned this, btw!
Jack> Ernesto, have you had a chance to do a practice session yet?
ernesto> have to go now, wishing you all a good one.
Laly> ok ernesto -- have a blessed day!!
Jack> Ah ok, I was hoping to be able to answer any questions you may have, maybe even b4 you go?
Jack> If not, though... I hope you'll post'em to the Forum and please DO come back to the chats... ALOHA! and Sayonara!
Laly> :-).
Jack> Laly, Ernesto may have bailed but stayed in channel to log the chat. I'm wondering what kind of tips you might be able to offer people for dealing with emotional furballs (i.e., recall of painful memories, etc.) that may happen during a practice session.
Laly> oohh... wow .. me huh
Jack> ONLY if you are ok with doing so.
Laly> is ok
Jack> 10-Q!
Laly> Well imho if a furball does happen to encroach in a KSMO session.. then I say if it does interfere with it.. then stop the session right then.
Jack> Yes I agree with that TOTALLY!
Jack> It's like you're taking a drive, even a really nice drive, and the oil light on your car comes on...
Laly> and give yourself time to deal with whatever emotional furball the session may have triggered.
Jack> no matter how nice the ride is, you should nevertheless stop the car and find out how to address the issue that caused the oil light to come on.
Laly> yes.
Jack> It sounds like from your acct of before and after, that you experienced something with this practice that may have given you new hope.
Laly> otherwise if you do NOT deal with it .. it is going to not go away but may just get bigger and bigger until you just can't ignore it anymore
Laly> oh yeah.
Jack> Seems like you've made friends with yourself, including your erotic self, in a new way.
Laly> exactly.
Jack> Sweeeeeet!
Jack> By sharing you story as you have been in the chats, and those *wonderful* posts to the Forum, I think you are giving MANY women new hope as well!
Laly> I no longer hate myself, but accept that what happened in my past was not my fault and thus so not punish myself for it time and time again.
Jack> THAT IS ***FANTASTIC***!!!
Laly> *is smiling and blushing
Laly> thanks.
Jack> You are VERY welcome! You have really shown a TON of courage in this journey!
Laly> the journey to enlightenment takes a step at a time.
Jack> Imho, that self-hatred is like you introjected the abuser energy... and with this practice you were able to eject it!
Jack> Aye, that it does!
Laly> yes.
Jack> What a wonderful miracle! I realize there's more growing and healing to do, but one of my teacher's,
Jack> the late Milton H. Erickson,
Jack> said that the most important moment in personal change is the moment that you *** realize that things can be different for you ***
Jack> .
Laly> is soo true.
Jack> :-)
Laly> I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my heart and shoulders.
Jack> Hallelujah!
Jack> Whew what a relief!
Laly> oh yes.
Laly> no longer can I hide behind that brick wall I built around my heart
Laly> and am joyous that I can share my experiences with all to see and respond to.
Jack> Yes!!!
Laly> as hard as it was to put it all into words.
Jack> Is it getting any easier?
Laly> yes it is :-)
Jack> Yay!!!
Laly> every word I type comes from my heart and honest.
Jack> Yeah, I really get that!
Laly> :i: am there for the world to see.
Jack> ...And APPRECIATE...
Jack> :-)
Laly> thanks.
Jack> Yeah I think you're creating some very big positive ripples with those wonderful posts you've been making.
Laly> had the "sweetest" session Tues nite.
Jack> Yeah?
Laly> *grins.
Laly> rode a wave of pure orgasmic bliss for a good 20 minutes, crying the whole time from the sheer magnitude of the pleasure.
Jack> That is ***really*** beautiful to hear, Laly!
Jack> I refer to those kinds of tears as " brimming " as in " My cup runneth over ".
Laly> it was not very intense Jack, but man oh man it was long.. the energy just cycling around at a low intensity.
Jack> Yeah isn't that sweet. Just to know that it's there for you... that you are there for you... all you want, for as long as you want.
Laly> yes it is.
Jack> :-)
Laly> and the use of the KS training CD helps too.
Jack> Could you please say a little more about that? How it's helping you?
Laly> to keep my focus on KS correctly
Jack> Great! That was what I was hoping it would do.
Laly> so the only thing I hear is that and nothing else.. no music. nada
Laly> and it helps to keep your mind from its "mind noise" that sometimes can happen in a session as well.
Jack> VERY good point!
Laly> Sometimes I still get that - the mind noise - and can't seem to get rid of it- so I do a small 20 min meditation session
Laly> beforehand and that sometimes helps as well.
Jack> VERY GOOD TIP !!!
Jack> LALYROTH'S TIP OF THE WEEK: Do a 20 minute meditation session before beginning your Multiple Orgasm Trigger practice session.
Jack> COOL!
Laly> lol- it works!!
Jack> :-)
Laly> With its usage I was about to achieve a very sacred heartgasm.
Laly> quite by accident tho.
Jack> That still counts!
Jack> Just try on replacing "by accident" with "spontaneous" :-)
Laly> ok.
Jack> Just for fun. :-)
Jack> Sometimes when you rephrase / reframe like that, it's possible to notice a shift in emotional state about the experience.
Laly> yes :0.
Laly> true.
Jack> :-)
Laly> and if you would like to read about this .. check out my thread "Laly's heartgasm @ 38,000 ft" under the Heartgasms
Jack> Do you have any questions I might answer, tonight?
Laly> not at this time Jack.
Jack> Thanks for putting that cross-reference into this transcript about your heartgasms at 38,000 feet. The KSMO Mile-High Club! :-)
Laly> only questions that can be answered by me for now.
Jack> I hear that! Way to claim your power, Laly!
Laly> thanks.
Jack> You're VERY welcome.
Jack> Oh btw, next wk the chat will also be on Thurs as I will be away on the weekend. So next chat will be Nov 17.
Laly> ok
Jack> Is there anything else you'd like to talk about tonight?
Laly> Nah-- need to get to bed and I know you do too .
Jack> Perchance, to dream... :-)
Laly> Is always a pleasure to chat.
Laly> always dream.
Laly> Never give up on my true happiness either.
Jack> RIGHT ON!!!
Jack> Thanks! Likewise it's always a pleasure to chat with you as well, Laly!
Laly> Good nite and sweet dreams.
Jack> And to you... Til next time then. C.U. in the Forum!
Laly> ok
Jack> Bye for now!
Laly> bye.
Session Close: Thu Nov 10 19:19:37 2005