• Another Success Story (from Australia)!
• Newbie "dbarnett" reports some difficulty in his beginning practice, and by doing a step by step review of the simple, basic Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger protocol, he recognizes where he can fine tune his practice to get stronger results.
• 73 year old Adept rds7777 (aka RobertS: listen via streaming audio to his Success Story in the Multiple Orgasm Trigger Success Stories Volume 1 audio seminar and: Happy 73rd Birthday, Bob!!!) as well as Adepts Drew and Mari present.
• Discussion of women's reports of benefits of learning the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger in making their multi-orgasmic experience much more accessible and effortless.
• Blissful1 checked in from Australia to report his first Multiple Orgasms! Congratulations, mate! Welcome to Key Sound Multiple Orgasm "Adept" status!
• He described how he followed the aspect of the couple's exercise in the audio seminar where he and his partner took in their partner's sound, let themselves feel it in their body, and that sent them higher and higher until his lover told him they had to back off a little because it was so intense for her!
• Blissful1 then reported that he did some solo practice and had a number of multiples, and instead of feeling drained (as is so common after ejaculation) he felt energized
• He confirmed that he had no sense of having to "control" or block ejaculation, that in fact in his last solo practice, he was barely aroused at all, but went into the multiple orgasms.
• Blissful1 mentioned that his partner had used polarity therapy to remove energy blockages, and Jack confirmed that it's really important to use methods like this to clear the emotional "furballs" (i.e. old wounds), and energy blockages so that the pleasure will flow and the multi-orgasmic energy "gates" will open.
• Then Blissful1 described the polarity method that he used a couple of weeks ago that helped him set the stage for using the Key Sound (in concert with his partner) to trigger the multiple orgasms.
• He reported that is partner said that she felt so fulfilled that even if she died the next day, she felt completely fulfilled.
• He also noted that he now realizes that prior to multiples, his lovemaking was way too active and thus much less satisfying since, among other things, it led to ejaculation within a fairly short time.
• Next, dbarnett (a newbie) reported that by his second practice session he was starting to notice a lot of pleasurable sensations, and rec'd some tips on how to amplify those feelings into more intense orgasms.
• As Jack once again re-iterates the basic protocol of creating the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm trigger, dbarnett realizes a number of "fine tunings" that he feels are helping him correct his practice and understand this a lot better.
• And he demonstrated a significantly increased ability to identify what it was in his practice that needed some fine tuning, for example he noticed that once he started getting Echo Effects, he mistakenly switched into more vigorous stimulation (abandoning the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger protocol), but now he knew what to do to get back on track.
• Next, Adept rds7777 (aka RobertS in the audio Success Stories) checked in and said that the review with dbarnett was very helpful to him as well.
• Next Adept Mari stopped by for a brief checkin after her karate practice.
• She mentioned how much she enjoyed listening to the new (free) streaming audio Success Stories (in which section she also tells HER story), and also how much she liked reading Dr. Mitch Tepper's article at the www.ican.org website about the www.multiples.com website and the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger and its benefits for people living with disabilities (FYI: Mari suffered a mild brain trauma that left her partially disabled).
• Mari mentioned how the Key Sound practice has made her multi-orgasmic response much more accessible, and that she didn't have to use as much effort to experience multiple orgasms.
• Jack noted that in Amy's streaming audio story in the Success Stories section of the website she talks about how prior to learning the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger she always had to "reach" (i.e. make a real effort) to experience orgasm, and now she no longer feels that.
• Mari confirmed that that was true for her too.
• She then went on to describe how she now uses the Key Sound in her regular meditation practice, with NO erotic stimulation at all, and experiences VERY positive results.
• She confirmed as true for her, Jack's assertion that once a person learns how to open the multi-orgasmic gateways using the Key Sound, that it can be used to amplify virtually ANY pleasurable experience.
• And she reaffirmed how fundamental to her well-being that learning this process has been for her.

Session Start

blissful> How long until the chat starts?

back-at-6pm-PacTime> Hi! Just like it says on the home page: 6pm Pacific (Oregon USA) Time, which is

back-at-6pm-PacTime> 0200 Friday in GMT. To convert GMT to your local time, go to http://times.clari.net.au/

back-at-6pm-PacTime> I'll be chatting with you then! Best regards,

back-at-6pm-PacTime> Jack

jack> Good evening all!

BlissFul1> Afternoon in Australia

jack> Hi Drew!

jack> G'day blissful! :-)

Drew> Hi Jack et al...

BlissFul1> I had my first multiple organsms a week ago.

jack> WAY TO GO!!! Tell us about it!

BlissFul1> I started to have them in a different way to Jacks method.

BlissFul1> I was making love to my lover and she was very energised.

BlissFul1> She was ahhhhing or some similar sound on her outbreath.

BlissFul1> I felt her energy enter me and I started shaking.

BlissFul1> I thought this in interesting and just went with the energy building without

BlissFul1> making any effort to stop the flow.

BlissFul1> This lead to the energy building up in me more and more untill I had pulsations without ejectulating.

BlissFul1> This happened a few times until my lover asked me are you having an orgasm!

BlissFul1> I had to think about it and then I realised I was orgasming withoug ejectualing!

jack> Great! Have you incorporated the Key Sound to AMPLIFY them yet?

BlissFul1> Yes I tend to do the sound naturally now. My lover also does this too.

jack> Excellent dude! Way to go! And congratulations to your sweetie, too!

BlissFul1> I now can absorb my lovers energy and feel the energy enter me and build up to an orgasm.

BlissFul1> My lover experiences energy shooting up her spine to her head.

BlissFul1> I can them absort this energy again and this is stronger each time.

BlissFul1> The last time we made love she asked me to stop as the energy was getting too strong for her to handle.

jack> It's definitely good to pace yourselves with this energy!

BlissFul1> Yes I seem very energised at present

BlissFul1> Today I did some practice by myself

BlissFul1> I was able to have a multable orgasm and 2 seconds later let the energy rise again and have another series of multables

BlissFul1> I could repeat this a few times and felt great ofterwoods, not drained at all but energised

jack> Fantastic, mate! Did you have any sense of having to use "ejaculation control"?

BlissFul1> No as in all the above experineces I was not turned on very much at all.

jack> Isn't that amazing!!!

BlissFul1> Yes totally

BlissFul1> I actually orgasmed bushwalking the other day.

BlissFul1> Rather funny ahhingbn loadly, wanting to shut my eyes

BlissFul1> and my body pulsating at the same time trying to walk.

BlissFul1> I am glad no one was watching

jack> LOL! Right on!

jack> Max (in the audio Success Stories) talks about in another excerpt I'll be posting soon how after HE

jack> got his multi-orgasmic gates opened thru the Key Sound, that he then went

jack> outside

jack> Max said he went outside into his garden and could smell the fragrance of the flowers and it smelled SO good that HE

jack> had multiples that way too! Basically, as I've mentioned b4,

jack> that once you get those multi-orgasmic gates open, then you can access that multi-orgasmic energy through ANY

jack> pleasurable feeling! That's a LONG way from always HAVING to have a rock hard erection to be orgasmic, isn't it, Blissul1?

BlissFul1> Yes I find I just now can let the energy rise anytime I want and have a multable

jack> Wooo Hooooooooo mate!

jack> :-)

jack> Welcome to Key Sound Multiple Orgasm "Adept" status! :-)

BlissFul1> Gee thanks!

BlissFul1> Is anyone using polarity techinques to remove blocks

jack> Now I hope you'll help me, Drew, rds, and the rest teach the rest of the billions who WISHED they knew how... We can teach them!

BlissFul1> Yep anytime

jack> RE: Polarity, I'm not sure. I know people have worked with Qi Gong, NLP, and a number of methods...

BlissFul1> THe reason I mentioned this is my partner used these techniques to open up her orgasmic energy to a large degree.

jack> I'm really glad you mentioned it! It's very important to be sensitive to emotional furballs (old wounds that block the energy),

jack> and to find ways e.g. polarity Tx, yoga, COUNSELING, NLP, whatEVER works best for you to clear the debris of old wounds and open up to pleasure and LOVE.

BlissFul1> I did a technigue 2 weeks ago that helped me a lot.

BlissFul1> Can i explain it here?

Drew> Please do....

BlissFul1> Give me a few minutes to get it together

jack> Yes, please!

jack> You still able to describe the method, Blissful1 or should we let someone else talk for a bit?

Drew> I would be interested in some specific exercises (Qi Gong etc.) to help promote the flow of chi... any ideas?

jack> Drew, if you do a keyword search in the Forum for SkFu he did a number of very thoughtful posts about these kinds of systems,

Drew> Ok... thanks!

BlissFul1> We did this at a workshop and it released a lot of emotional stuff for

BlissFul1> me. I was shaking, crying a lot, laughing at times.

BlissFul1> I realized that I had been a little boy for so long and it was time to grow up.

BlissFul1> Others experienced a lot of energy transfer like tingling etc

BlissFul1> Put on loud orgasmic music so the neibours can't hear you if you want

BlissFul1> to be loud!!!

BlissFul1> You need a partner or better still your lover

BlissFul1> 1. Cross arms at wrist with right hand down and left hand facing up.

BlissFul1> Each person does this sitting close facing each other.

BlissFul1> 2 Face each other and hold hands doing the above.

BlissFul1> 3 Female puts her attention on her heart region.

BlissFul1> 4.Male puts his attention on his genital region.

BlissFul1> 3.After a while both on the out breath say verbally AAAHHHHH

BlissFul1> 4.Let anything come out what ever it is.

BlissFul1> We probably did this for 30 minutes or longer.

jack> there are links to about 40 posts there. Feel free to post responses to any of them. It just adds to the knowledge.

jack> Cool, Blissful, this is VERY similar to the couples exercise I describe in the audio seminar. Partners facing each other, passing their love, etc. back and forth thru the Key Sound.

BlissFul1> Yes very similar.

jack> So now just modify the AAAHHHHHH to the Key Sound and see what happens!

BlissFul1> Yes I plan another session soon.

jack> The two-part Key Sound can REALLY amplify the energy1

BlissFul1> Amazingly powerful

jack> Great! Do keep us posted!

BlissFul1> Will do.

jack> Yes it is, mate. What can you say to all those folks reading this who just can't believe a MAN can have

jack> MULTIPLE orgasms without having to use some kind of ejaculation control?

BlissFul1> THe key is not to be really turned on at all.

BlissFul1> If you are very turned on it is very hard not to want to ejectulate

jack> Yep... because high stimulation that's allowed to localize in the genitals sets the stage for triggering the ejaculation REFLEX.

BlissFul1> Yes. For me there is 2 energies at play.

jack> That's why I emphasize that with the Key Sound, use JUST BARELY ENOUGH stimulation to notice that automatic larger-than-average inbreath.

jack> What are the 2?

BlissFul1> ONe is being turned on sexually leading to ejectualion and the other that gives rise to the orgasms

jack> But being turned on doesn't HAVE to lead to ejaculation... not if one applies the Key Sound method and starts at VERY LOW levels of arousal.

BlissFul1> Yes I can have an orgasm and be turned on at the same time too and not ejectuale.

jack> Exactly!

jack> It's great that you have a partner who is into sharing this exploration with you!

BlissFul1> And I fill fulfilled and I do not need to come.

BlissFul1> Its really great that now sex is not so draining

jack> And like you said b4, ENERGIZED rather than depleted... LOL I was typing this line as YOU mentioned "not so draining"!

BlissFul1> Yes this is wonderful for my lover as I can make love for hours and hours

Drew> That's AWESOME!

jack> I hope the people who are reading this transcript take CAREFUL NOTE of what you just typed, Blissful1!

BlissFul1> Yep I am a real happy boy!

jack> LOL, "no worries" BIG time, eh mate!

BlissFul1> What used to happen is that I ejectualted after making love.

BlissFul1> All I wanted to do was to roll off and go to sleep.

jack> THAT story is CENTURIES old!

BlissFul1> My lover wanted me to remain connected and still have my attention on her

jack> Of COURSE!

BlissFul1> She wanted to be connected for 30 minutes or so

BlissFul1> Now I can orgasm and still be totally present with my lover and if she wishes go onward

jack> I'll be she's pretty happy about THAT!

BlissFul1> and have more orgasms

BlissFul1> Yes after one love making session she had such deep experinces

BlissFul1> SHe told me that if she passed away tomorrow she was totally fulfilled from what she had experinced

BlissFul1> From lovemaking

BlissFul1> That day

Drew> WOW!

jack> WOW (also!)

jack> That is SO beautiful!!!

BlissFul1> Yes and the amazing thing is that I was just touching her g stop and not moving my finger at all.

BlissFul1> I realized that I usually was much too active in my love making

jack> Yeah, the multiple orgasm progress does NOT require the old-fashioned vigorous stimulation. "Less is More" when combined with the KS practice.

jack> re: active, yeah that's men's cultural programming pretty much the world over.

jack> (with certain exceptions e.g. tantra, but many variations of that path still have some kind of ejaculation control in them)

BlissFul1> I also realized that I used to start intercourse many times when my lover was not totally turned on.

jack> That's a very important thing to realize!

jack> Sounds like that's changed, eh?

BlissFul1> Yep. I let my lover lead me now.

jack> That is EXCELLENT!

jack> Again, congratulations to BOTH of you!

BlissFul1> Much thanks. I will let others talk now!

jack> OK thanks. I hope you'll stick around a bit though! :-)

jack> Who'd like to speak next?

jack> Badbob, you there?

jack> dbarnett?

jack> Drew?

Drew> I'm here!

Drew> That's VERY inspiring stuff from Bliss!

dbarnett> I am here.

jack> [re: Drew's "inspiring" comment] That's the power of our getting together to share our experiences, isn't it?

jack> [Hi dbarnett! Got any questions, comments, or thoughts to share?]

dbarnett> But I am a newbie and need practice yet.

Drew> That's a GREAT place to be!

jack> Welcome! This is the BEST place for newbies to get help. How long have you been practicing?

dbarnett> Only a few times

jack> What has happened so far?

dbarnett> The first time nothing; the second time lots;

dbarnett> So I have a question

dbarnett> First a statemetn

dbarnett> I experiences some fantastic pleasurable sensations

dbarnett> But they were not like a "real" orgasm

dbarnett> Is that what you are labeling MMOs?

jack> "little" ones... As you GRADUALLY increase

jack> stimulation, and MAKE SURE that you are taking a number of regular breaths between each Key Sound,

jack> and as you continue to use a Key Sound as you exhale one of those "larger-than-average" inbreaths that occur

dbarnett> I think I just need more time to experiment

jack> automatically in response to erotic stimulation, those pleasurable feelings, aka "Echo Effects" will tend to get

jack> stronger and stronger. Have you been able to notice that larger-than-average inbreath that happens automatically

jack> in response to using a LITTLE bit of stimulation (in the beginning)?

dbarnett> No, because I found myself pumping in lots of short breaths;

jack> Sounds like you may be using TOO MUCH stimulation! Are you concentrating on trying to maintain a constant erection, or not

jack> worrying about that?

dbarnett> There is either a semi erection on none at all.

jack> OK... what is causing the rapid breaths? Lots of stimulation, or just a little?

dbarnett> I don't konw; but partly the excitement or something

jack> OK... one thing I suggest then is to allow your breathing to SLOW and to DEEPEN,

dbarnett> I think that is the path I need to follow

jack> That's what works for me and a whole lot of other people! That's why I often say that the fastest way to learn how to do this is to SLOW DOWN... :-)

dbarnett> Ok

jack> Have you had a chance to read thru the most recent chat transcripts?

dbarnett> Only a couple

dbarnett> hello

dbarnett> As I said I am very new at this.

jack> No problem, brother, that's why we're here, to help you learn, at your own pace, and to suggest where in

jack> the website resources to find the answers.

jack> Would you like me to give a quick review again of the basic protocol?

dbarnett> sure !

jack> OK, here goes. I recommend that you begin practice by lying on your back with your legs bent. The reason

jack> I recommend you bend your legs is that as male arousal increases, we frequently have the urge to

jack> STRAIGHTEN our legs which sets the stage for triggering the ejaculation reflex, rather than the non-ejac multiple orgasm reflex. Does that make sense?

dbarnett> YES, very much

jack> Good! OK... next step: just relax and breathe normally, and become aware of what your normal, relaxed breathing is like, OK?

jack> Still there, db?

dbarnett> YEs

dbarnett> go on

jack> ah ok, thanks... I want to check in with you on each point to make sure you understand it, before going on, I hope that's ok, is it?

jack> :-)

dbarnett> Yep

jack> Thanks! OK... on your back, relaxed, breathing normally, legs bent, becoming aware of what your normal breathing is like. Next,

jack> add just a LITTLE erotic stimulation, and as you do, notice when your breathing AUTOMATICALLY changes in that as you

jack> introduce a little stimulation, you AUTOMATICALLY take a larger-than-normal INbreath. Have you had a chance in your practice to notice that automatically larger in-breath yet?

dbarnett> I am not sure; I know the INbreath that occurs before ejaculation

dbarnett> But

dbarnett> I think you may

dbarnett> be talking about something else?

jack> Absolutely something else! The breath you are talking about is at very high stimulation as the ejac reflex is being triggered. I'm

jack> talking about a subtle, but noticeable change in your normal relaxed breathing when you add just little tiny bit of erotic stimulation. Just enough so that you're

dbarnett> Ok I will notice said brearth

jack> able to feel the good feeling. In your next practice, please pay attention to this, cuz until you are able

jack> to recognize that breathing change, it will be difficult to be successful further on. And yes, it takes some patience, and

dbarnett> Ok, now to stimulation.

jack> sometimes THAT requires UNlearning the tendency we men have to get it ON...

dbarnett> May I stimulate the Hot spots?

jack> Yes. Question about stimulation?

jack> RE: hot spots, in the early stages ONLY JUST ENOUGH until you notice your breathing change. That why it is ESSENTIAL to be

jack> able to notice the AUTOMATIC INhale we all tend to do in response to stimulation. In other words,

jack> you're just lying there relaxing and noticing your breathing, then just give yourself a little tweek that you know

dbarnett> ok

jack> will result in a mildly erotic pleasurable feeling, and pay attention to your breathing as you do so.

jack> It's basically that SIGH we do when we FIRST begin to feel turned on. In order to do that SIGH, we first AUTOMATICALLY

jack> take a LARGER than normal inbreath. Do you understand?

dbarnett> I did not earlier but I do now!

jack> EXCELLENT!!! That is progress!!! BIG progress! Because like I said, being able to RECOGNIZE that breathing change is

jack> ESSENTIAL for continuing.

dbarnett> Yes, I am now understanding that this is a much more subtle process that I imagined before

jack> Ah ok, that's a BIG one! GREAT!!! Yes, it's a subtle process that leads to DRAMATIC results! :-)

dbarnett> Go on please

jack> AND it involves UNlearning some of our old patterns of hurry up and get "there". OK... once

jack> you are able to identify that larger inbreath, which I also call a CHARGING breath, because your body is

jack> AUTOMATICALLY taking in more oxygen to allow you to FEEL the pleasure. OK?

dbarnett> Ok, and I think I was breathing too much to bring in Oxygenr before

jack> That's why when we are stimulated we often spontaneously say "Ahhhh" or something like that.

jack> RE: your doing too much breathing, yes I was about to mention before when you mentioned the rapid

jack> short breaths that the tingles you were feeling may actually have been due to either hyper or hypo-ventilation, rather than orgasm! :-)

dbarnett> Very likely

jack> See how we just take it slowly, one element of the protocol at a time... we go through the "pre-flight" checklist:

dbarnett> Got it !

jack> On the back, check... legs bent, check... notice breathing, check... add a LITTLE stimulation, check...

jack> NOTICE THE BREATHING CHANGE, check... and then THAT is when

jack> you use a Key Sound! >>>>>>ONLY<<<<<< use the Key Sound to exhale that automatically larger inbreath!

jack> A very common mistake newbies make is to think that if they just start stimulating and making the Key Sound louder

jack> and louder that suddenly the magic will happen. That isn't how this works! The reason is, that

jack> you are involved in helping your body REMEMBER how to become aroused in this multi-orgasmic way, and we need to be

jack> able to TUNE IN to the CLUES that our body gives us in response, to let us know when we are ON the right track, or when

jack> we may be drifting off course a bit. We need to learn to recognize those little automatic CLUES... and the

jack> first one is that automatic breathing change. Once that happens, as you exhale THAT breath, just do so using a GENTLE Key Sound...

jack> don't try to force it or make it last artificially long or anything "fancy/schmanzy"... just a gentle Key Sound as I demo in the audio seminar to

jack> exhale that automatic inbreath. Then, after

jack> you have exhaled that Key Sound breath, RETURN TO REGULAR BREATHING for a few breaths, you don't have to count any particular "magic" number

jack> of normal breaths or anything, but it's important not to rush... There may be a lot of programming telling you to hurry up! But don't fall for it!

jack> Now when you

jack> have used the Key Sound to exhale that automatic, larger-than-average, CHARGING INbreath,

jack> as you are breathing normally after that, just start scanning your body to notice any little tingles or goose bumps, or

jack> twitches or any little "hmmm THAT was interesting" kind of feelings... just little "thrills" if you will...

jack> When you do the Key Sound correctly and by that I mean you articulate it correctly as I demo, and you're NOT forcing it,

jack> AND you have TIMED it correctly, that is on the EXhale of that automatic larger IN breath that happened in response to

jack> stimulation, then you are very likely, at least after the first few rounds like that, to begin feeling some kind

jack> of energy moving in your body. OK?

dbarnett> OH, this is very helpful in correcting what I have tried thus far.

dbarnett> Question

jack> Wonderful! Yes, please! That's what we're here for!

dbarnett> Scanning the body for ....

dbarnett> May I expect it anywhere or only in the genital area;

dbarnett> ?

jack> anywhere.

jack> The tips of your toes, your legs,

dbarnett> OK, then what

jack> your groin, your chest, your fingers, etc.

jack> Now, IF

jack> you notice those automatic responses, which I call the Echo Effects, then basically your body is saying to

jack> you "YES! THAT's what I like!", in other words,

jack> your body is automatically beginning to send you signals, VERY SUBTLE AT FIRST, that you ARE beginning

jack> to set the stage for the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger. Now, when

jack> you start getting those Echo Effects, the tingles, or whatever form they take, then BUT ONLY THEN,

jack> is that a green light to add a LITTLE more stimulation, and repeat the sequence. As

jack> rds7777 says in his audio Success Story on the website, it's like going up steps a little at a time.

jack> Now it's VERY

jack> important that if you are not noticing the Echo Effects, in the VERY beginning you might add a LITTLE more stimulation, but

jack> not very much more... and see if you get the Echo Effects. If not, then something is out of whack and needs retuning.

jack> But it's very important NOT to fall into the trap of just using more and more stimulation... that's the old-fashioned

jack> way and it will either lead to a lot of frustration, or ejaculation, or both. In other words,

jack> When you get Echo Effects in response to using the Key Sound (correctly articulated, and gently) on the

jack> exhale of the automatic inbreath in response to stimulation, that is the green light to add a LITTLE more

jack> stimulation and notice another automatic breathing change, and when you notice it, to exhale it using a gentle, natural Key Sound.

jack> If you are doing that correctly, the Echo

jack> Effects will tend to get stronger. As long as you continue to feel the Echo Effects, and at least every so often

jack> they feel stronger, then you are moving toward triggering the non-ejaculatory multiple orgasm reflex.

dbarnett> I got echo effects, but started to add much more stimulation, which caused it to all go away.

jack> If at ANY time you do the Key Sound and the Echo Effects fade, then it's a "yellow light" to slow down, and

jack> go through that checklist again: Am I really making the Key Sound correctly? Am I taking plenty of regular

jack> breaths between each time I add a little stimulation, notice the breathing change, and then use the Key Sound, etc.

jack> In a nutshell: If you get Echo Effects when you follow that little protocol, then green light: add a little more

jack> stimulation. If you are not getting the Echo Effects, then tune in and see if you can identify what part of the

rds7777> rds7777-I'm still here listening to every word

jack> protocol you're not following correctly.

dbarnett> Unfortunately, when I got the echo effects, I ramped up the stimulation too fast.

jack> [thanks for your patience, rds! I know it's getting late, and I'd like to hear from you next once finished with db]

jack> Aha! EXCELLENT self-analysis db!

dbarnett> I am just learning and UNlearning too

jack> As I've said in chats and posts before you connected with this practice: "The fastest way to get there is to SLOW DOWN!"

jack> Yes exactly! RE: the UNlearning!!! That's a BIG part of this!

jack> I'm feeling some momentum in your learning curve, here!

dbarnett> Yes, I just need time to practice and adjust.

jack> You've already had a number of "aha!"'s about ways to fine tune your practice, and it's VERY cool

dbarnett> Jack this has been tremendeously helpful

jack> that seem to be getting the knack of being able to recognize what needs to be modified a bit.

dbarnett> Thaks

jack> You're welcome! Please stay connected this community as you continue your practice, and let us know how it's going. And keep

jack> asking those questions!!! That's how you learn, and it's also how you are already helping us

jack> teach others, cuz they will have many of the same questions, and also

jack> the same cultural programming to UNlearn! Good work, brother!

dbarnett> Thanks again

dbarnett> I will let others talk now

dbarnett> I need to get to bed

jack> OK db, thanks for being here! Sweet Dreams and have fun with your homework! :-)

dbarnett> Jack I hope this sesson will be posted promptly; I am an home tomorrow an can review and prcactice.

jack> Yes I will post it within an hour or so after the chat ends.

jack> Take care!

dbarnett> TKS

dbarnett> Bye

jack> bye. you're welcome!

rds7777> rds7777--are you ready for me?-

jack> Hey rds7777! Thank you SO much for your patience! What are YOUR thoughts this evening?

jack> Yes and thanks again for your patience!!!

rds7777> that guy i spent about an hour with

jack> db?

rds7777> and I sent your e-mail to him

jack> Thanks for helping him along the way!

rds7777> can you see when I'm typing?

jack> I can see after you press the Enter key, then the line you typed gets sent to the network and

jack> shows up where the rest of us see it. So

jack> it's a good idea to type a half dozen

jack> words or so, and then hit the enter key, and

jack> then when you're ready for a response from the rest of us,

rds7777> That was a good lesson you gave that guy and it applied to me also

jack> end the line with a period or question mark or whatever.

jack> Great re: lesson! I'm glad it's helpful to you too!

jack> That's how we help one another by sharing our questions and our experiences!

rds7777> so you can read when I type?

jack> Yes can you read when I reply?

rds7777> what does that word down below "float" mean

jack> When you access the chat via the Live Forum rather than using mIRC or some such program, that "float"

rds7777> no I can't read when you reply.

jack> feature simply means that the chat window

jack> becomes a separate window. It's not big deal, and might actually be a distraction. It's

jack> explained in the Live Forum HELP area which you access by logging in to the Forum and clicking HELP

jack> on the black menu bar, then when the

jack> help window opens, click the link that talks about "Conference Room Chat"... Otherwise, just use

rds7777> why don't your name appear automatically when you press enter

jack> the mIRC program the way I taught you the other day. It might be less distracting. OK?

Mari> Hi Everybody!

rds7777> Thats how I got on tonight I think

jack> Heyyyyy Mari!

Mari> Hi JJ !

Mari> Thanks for the Invite

jack> Well rds, let's get on with the subject, and if you still have more questions about how to use the chat after you've

jack> read the HELP section, then give me a call, OK?

jack> I don't want to take up everyone's time in the chat covering stuff that's described in the HELP section of the Forum. I hope you understand.

jack> That is, in the HELP section on "how to use the software". Do you have any comments or questions about

rds7777> rds--no more right now I'll sit back and listen for a bit. Thanks for your help

jack> the KSMO? Oh, OK... re: sittin' back... I sure appreciate your being here. I AM curious as to what

jack> dbarnett discussed or what came up in his discussion that was helpful to you, rds7777. Could you take

jack> a moment to talk about that before we let Drew have the floor before his bedtime?

rds7777> The part about the physical position

rds7777> and then to take it slow and easy

jack> Ah ok! Yeah, on your back, or even on your side if that's more comfortable, but it's important to keep your legs

rds7777> and then to look for the echo's

jack> at least somewhat bent and relaxed rather than tense.

jack> Re: slow and easy, and echoes. Great! It never hurts to review the basics!

jack> RE: Slower. Yep: "The fastest way to open the multiple orgasmic gate is to SLOW DOWN" :-)

jack> and to be sure to tune in for those Echo Effects, cuz they let you

jack> know when you're on track or maybe slipping off a bit.

rds7777> I have to go my computer says I got a bunch of e-mails since I set up my sound on this machine

jack> OK. Thanks for checkin' in tonite, and I'm glad it was of benefit. Take care!

rds7777> The first one I downloaded was our interview. good night Jack

jack> Good night Bob, thanks for being part of this community and sharing your experience!

jack> Hey Drewski, you still awake? You in yer jammies? :-)

jack> Hmmmm maybe away from keybd for a few... How are YOU, Ms Mari?

Mari> **Mari looking around**

Mari> LOL gawd, where did they go?

Mari> I'm doing ok here thank you JJ. We just got home from DoJo

jack> For rds and Drew, it's gettin pretty late. Glad you could stop by after DoJo practice! Have you had

jack> a chance to listen to the audio Success Stories?

Mari> OMG YES! lol Jack! I was blushing! Meant to call you about that

Mari> WELL DONE!

jack> LOL!

Mari> And I read the Article from Tepper too

Mari> very nice

jack> Oh good! Yes for gen'l info, Mari's referring to the article written by

jack> Dr. Mitch Tepper about our Key Sound Multiple Orgasm method, which he published at the ICAN website, www.ican.org,

Mari> It was nicely done.

jack> which is a website supporting people living with disabilities and those who care about and for them.

jack> Yeah, Mitch is an excellent writer and an heroic advocate for sexuality education for people living with disabilities. Since

jack> he's living with a spinal cord injury (college diving accident) and has no use of his legs. BTW, for everybody's

jack> info who are reading this, Mitch has created a superb website dedicated specifically

jack> to sexuality education and mutual support for people living with disabilities, at www.sexualhealth.com

jack> Anything else to report or comments or questions, Mari, before we call it a nite?

Mari> Things are going well for me; practice time has been a little bit of a set back for the moment

Mari> I am processing quite a bit of information now; and when I do this, I tend not to practice as often as I'd like

jack> It's good to give yourself some time to integrate the changes.

Drew> amen to that!

jack> Hey! Drew's back! Howdy!

Mari> However, when I do get to practice, and I've integrated balance then it seems my Intensity is much more powerful with less work

Drew> SLEEPYDrew at the moment...

jack> re: "more powerful with less work" do you mean the multi-orgasmic practice/

jack> ?

Mari> Yes Jack.

jack> [thot so, Drew! :-) ]

jack> Yeah, Mari,

Mari> I'm working on a balancing of body movement/ and KSMO

jack> Excellent! When a certain movement FEELS good, use a Key Sound on the exhale!

Drew> even a superenergeticallycharged body needs SLEEP!

jack> What's happening with that?

Mari> It takes a little bit of concentration for me, and will probably do that until it comes naturally to me

jack> [right Drew! LOL]

jack> Amy talked about that in her audio Success Story, about how b4 learning the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger with

jack> her partner RobertB aka Puffdragon, she said that her

jack> experience was often that she had to "reach" for her orgasms, but now with KSMO they happen easily and are much

jack> more intense and enjoyable.

jack> Mari, let's see if Drew has any comments or questions b4 he has to go ni-nite... ok?

Mari> There is certainly a change in how it feels as compared to the "old way"

Mari> OK!

Drew> I'm good over here thanks

Drew> I'm changing a LOT lately.... and it's all integrating into my practice too

Drew> More feeling... more expression... more FREEDOM!

jack> Way to GO!!!

Drew> :-)

Mari> WOW

jack> More ALIVE!!!

Drew> EXACTLY!

jack> I always appreciate your patient presence, Drew, even when you don't have a lot to say. :-)

jack> I want to record your success story very soon!

Drew> Actually, I have a LOT to say... but just not this evening. Another time though

Drew> OK

jack> LOL! For sure!

jack> Mari, did you happen to notice that comment of Amy's in her

jack> streaming audio story about previously having to "reach" for orgasm?

jack> ...and how that's different now?

Mari> No sorry, I didnt get to hear hers yet

Mari> but I'm very curious as to her story

jack> I'll be interested to hear your thoughts about it. It's GREAT!!!

Drew> BTW Jack, thanks for fixing the link!

jack> You're welcome Drew, I appreciate the heads up on stuff like that!

Drew> no prob

jack> I was talking about that "reaching" thing with another woman yesterday, a sex educator, and she

jack> said that that was true for her too, and that she'd heard that from other women. That seems like

jack> it's a significant benefit of women's learning this method, perhaps, is that they (and you, as you say) notice

jack> not so much need to do that anymore... that this helps the orgasmic energy flow more easily, with less effort.

jack> Does that seem reasonable?

Mari> yes I'd say so

jack> Great! I'm very pleased that you and Amy and soon hopefully others are telling your story, so that we

Mari> I practice the KS anywhere I can think about it I have to tell you

jack> can identify these benefit patterns for women as well.

Mari> Mostly to practice the deeper tones, so I can hear myself

Mari> Cars work well.... although, it's been strongly suggested I do not do KS while operating heavy machinery!

jack> LOL!

Mari> So... I've changed it to the times I am in Mantra

Drew> (I wonder who that could've been?)

Mari> ;-)

jack> Could you share with the readers what you mean by "in Mantra"?

Mari> When I am in Meditation, I am in a state of fully being open to the Universal Energy

Mari> It is much where I am when I am in "BLISS"

Mari> So, my intention was to find the Energy in Me that would connect me with the Universal Bliss and I would do that by using the KS

Mari> It works BEAUTIFULLY!

Mari> *GRINS**

jack> :-) That is wonderful!!!

jack> And I assume that is true even without any erotic stimulation, am I correct?

Mari> Correct, none

jack> B4 you arrived here tonite we

jack> were talking about how, especially once the multi-orgasmic energy "gates"

jack> have opened for the first time, it becomes easier and easier to experience these kinds of orgasmic rushes,

jack> in response to virtually ANY positive experience.

Mari> That is true for me, yes.

jack> That's really great!

Mari> I love the warmer , softer KS I do with the deeper tones.

Mari> Those are the ones for Me that Rock My World... and gently

jack> Yes!

jack> That's can be a real challenge for newbies, is to get "it" that

jack> the Key Sound actually NEEDS to be VERY GENTLE (and timed correctly of course) to be

jack> effective, and that newbies often fall into the trap of making the

jack> Key Sound artificially loud, trying FORCE themselves to experience multiples, which of course,

jack> doesn't work!

jack> Another one of the

jack> great paradoxes of the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger: Not only

jack> is it true that the fastest way to learn multiples is to SLOW DOWN, but

jack> also rather than using an artificially forced Key Sound, the gentler way is what brings results sooner!

Mari> Much softer and lower tones for me work along with a fully relaxed body

Mari> and "no thoughts' ; which was also suggested... works well btw

jack> Excellent tips for the readers, Adept Mari! :-)

Mari> :-) Thank you

jack> and thank YOU for being of such generous spirit that you share your story and support in this community!

Mari> You are very welcome and I am happy to help out.

jack> I appreciate your contributions VERY much!

Mari> Then more than anything, this is my Truth now for Me. It's My Primal Self very aware and HAPPY

Mari> to which I am grateful to those who have introduced me to this most powerful work of your Jack.

jack> I hear you! I'm grateful to "those" as well! :-)

jack> Well, I'm comin' up on three hours at the chat keyboard, and I'm ready for some rest and relaxation.

Mari> Me too!

Drew> YAY!

Mari> Jack Thank you for the Invite tonight.

Mari> LOL Drew

jack> You're welcome Mari! Thanks for hangin' in there Drew... MR. PERSISTENCE!!!

Mari> G'nite Drew... Sweet Dreams to you

Mari> Nite Jack

Drew> Good night all... and thanks Jack!

jack> You're welcome Drew! Good nite to you and sweet dreams,

jack> and to you Ms. Mari!