I guess I'd group myself with those women, though a man, as one who has never had a real orgasm(of course I have ejaculated though), at least through sexual stimulation. You can see the post on rope climbing that I responded to.

http://www.multiples.com/howtolastlo...=5642#post5642

That was definitely an orgasm. It felt wonderful throughout my whole body. I think that happened about twice, both times in gym class with people watching . I'd say it was 10-100 times better than anything I've felt during masturbation. I guess if I could feel that again once, let alone multiple times in a session I would be extremely satisfied.