I have just been finding a whole new
depth and sparkle by really using zero
stimulation, at least until it happens
spontaneously. What I mean in detail is:

I get very comfortable and meditatively
quiet. I gently focus my attention on the
lower part of my body in general. If I am
spacey or distracted, I lightly touch my
perenium once and let go and use that
sensation to attract my attention. Then I
make KS and relax even more and follow
the echos and then another KS etc. The
echos seem much deeper and stronger
and more "light" than when I start with
actual stimulation.

Maybe its that I tend to get stuck in the
physical excitement zone or something
but starting purely with energy and
attention seems to pay big dividends for
me.

After awhile, maybe 3-5 minutes or more,
I find that my spontaneous, completely
undirected physical movements tend
toward self massage, sometimes directly
sexual i.e. genital, perennial etc, more
often eleswhere. Often seem to end up
massaging legs and up and down the
lower spine and lower abdomen. This
seems to open more energy flows.

As I write this I think that what I wrote
above is true, that I just have the physical
and energetic layers too stuck together
and for me to use zero deliberate
stimulation helps separate them....