On 10/30/01 1:25:00 PM, lionheart wrote:
>Jack,
>
>>NOTE CAREFULLY: The purpose of the Key
>>Sound is to send the erotic energy which
>>tends to build up in the chest, BACK
>>DOWN to the FIRST CHAKRA TO FEED THE
>>KUNDALINI SERPENT AND AWAKEN IT!!!
>
>This was quite a surprise for
>me to read - especially since
>I have been pretty thorough in
>reading the posts on this
>board for the last month or
>more. I feel like I have
>missed a critical point!
>
>My understanding was that the
>KS drove the power, if you
>will, *up away* from the
>genitals

No... The first path is down below (and including, but not concentrating exclusively in) your genitals...

Then the Echo Effects that occur in response to your use of the Key Sound correctly... the two parts with the rolling quality in the middle, as I demonstrate in the audio seminar... and used to express a larger-than-average in-breath that you've automatically taken in response to gentle erotic stimulation...

...then those Echo Effects may tend to start moving the energy up your spine.

That said... release all of your expectations... and instead let your body teach you...

Men are conditioned to think our way through challenges... Learn to feel your way through instead...

The clues are the Echo Effects... they let you know when you're on the path... if they fade, take a little break maybe, then come back and practice again... gently...

Nurture and cultivate the Echo Effects... they are the orgasms which will grow in intensity as you learn to maintain their appearance in response to proper use of the Key Sound Multiple Orgasm Trigger as you gradually increase arousal.


> so that it could be
>released out and away through
>the body via the breath. The
>vibration of the KS "catches"
>the power and transmits it up
>and away.

The Key Sound tends to send the energy
downward to the "Valley" of your body,
below and including (but not concentrating in) your genitals...

...then the spontaneous, automatic Echo Effects (that occur in response to the Key Sound when it's correctly made and timed) will start sending the orgasmic energy up your spine.

As many others who have learned this have described, it's like you're sitting in a bath tub full of water...

You give the water a little push... and wave goes over and hits the side of the tub, then comes back to you...

The push is like proper use of the Key Sound, the wave that comes back is the Echo Effect.

Just like in a bathtub when you learn to time when you push the water towards the side of the tub so that you are building on the previous wave that came back to you, you can easily make the waves bigger and bigger until you are splashing water out of the tub!

This is a very similar process:

Relaxation without attachment to the goal of "making" it happen "this time".

Gentle erotic stimulation...

Notice breathing change...

Use the two-part Key Sound gently as you exhale one of those larger than average in-breaths that happened in response to the stimulation...

Notice any tingles, shivers, any different feelings... usually pleasurable... that occur in response... These different feelings are the Echo Effects.

Gently repeat the above sequence, while gradually increasing stimulation.

Don't worry about whether or not you have or are maintaining an erection... (!!!!)

At this stage, it's not about erection... it's about feeling pleasure...

...and noticing the changes in breathing that result from the increases in feelings of pleasure (arousal)...

Breathing change... Key Sound on outbreath (with regular breaths in between... don't repeat Key Sound more often than about every 4th breath or so... if you rush, it'll slip away)...

Once again, from the top:

Slight increase of stimulation
Notice breathing change...
Gentle Key Sound on exhale of automatically larger inbreath (in response to stimulation)
Notice Echo Effects...

IF Echo Effects are present,
increase stimulation a little bit, and repeat the above cycle...

Continue to gradually increase stimulation, as long as Echo Effects continue to happen in response.

If they slip away, back off on stimulation, slow your breathing... maybe even take a break...

Clear whatever emotional blocks may arise, using appropriate means, including counseling if indicated.

Best source of counseling assistance: www.aasect.org They can make referrals internationally.


> The passage of the
>energy through the body
>creates intense pleasure and
>is very healthy.

Yes indeed it is... because it is the essential Life Force.

>In the above quote you seem to
>be saying that the KS takes
>the sound "back down again" to
>the genital chakra

and to the first chakra... to the base of the
spine... and down to your TOES...

> and that
>this then stimulates the
>Kundalini to rise, or may
>stimulate the Kundalini to
>rise(?).

Yes... that's essentially it.

Now let go of all of the thinking... and get into the feelings:

Gentle stimulation,
Notice automatic breathing change,
Use the Key Sound as I demonstrate
Tune into the Echo Effects
If noticed, enjoy them,
Take some regular breaths

Gentle stimulation (and repeat above sequence)...

As Echo Effects continue, gradually increase
stimulation... as long as Echo Effects continue to increase...

If Echo Effects subside, that's a signal from your "Inner Guru" to slow down... let go of pushing... let go of thinking... tune in to feeling...

>Is the pleasure of MMO as you
>teach it from the Kundalini
>then?

One could say so... but this level of philosophizing can really get in the way in the early stages... The important thing is to learn how to open to the teaching that your own body has to offer you...

Your body will let you know when you're on the path...

Your body will send you a feeling something like "Ahhh THAT's more like it!" when you make a Key Sound correctly...

Search this Forum on the keywords resonant and resonate and even on reson, also on Echo of course.

Your body will send you a feeling of tingling or shivers or some similar automatic response when you've made a resonant Key Sound... one that has the two-part rolling quality in it, is not too loud, is made with a relaxed throat, deep, sexy, sensual sound... and done so on the exhale of one of those larger than average in-breaths.

>Does KS direct the sexual
>power into Sushumma and/or
>Pingalla (the cold/hot
>circuits through which the
>Kundalini is described as
>rising through to the crown)?

I don't know about all of the names for the feelings, but when the Gates open at the higher levels of arousal, there is often an intense rush of energy up the spine and through the crown...

Read my description of my first time, detailed in Chat 077

>Or, is the pleasure from the
>"spreading around" of the sex
>energy over the torso, as the
>"edge" of that energy is
>carried up and away by virtue
>of the vibrations created by
>the KS?

I'm getting lost in all of your thought
processes, Lionheart...

Relaaaaaxxxx, dude... clear your mind of all
of the philosophies... you can do that later...

For now... feel... don't "front-load" the experience with having to have verbal
equivalents for everything in advance...

Let.... go..... :-)


>Also you seem to be saying
>that power concentrates in the
>chest in "normal sexual energy
>buildup" and that the KS takes
>it down? Everything I've
>read/experienced points to any
>energy buildup above the lower
>chakra as allowing for more
>energy buildup overall - and
>decreasing "ejaculation
>urgency". When I feel most
>urgently the need to ejaculate
>I rarely experience my energy
>as being high in the body.

OK... fine... whatever...

I'm not trying to "dis" you by saying that,
I'm just saying that I get a strong feeling
you're chasing your tail a bit... trying
to think your way through this...

Please consider just setting aside whatever that urge is to verbalize everything in advance and link it to everything you may have read...

You can always come back to all of that later... for now... unburden yourself of all of that and just relax, breath, stimulate, notice auto-in-breath, Key Sound on exhale of that breath, notice Echo Effects...

If Echo Effects lower, slow down,
If Echo Effects stronger, go slow, but gradually increase stimulation and DO as above...
>Looking forward to your
>comments.
>
>Lionheart


I hope they help...

Thanks for your questions!
Jack