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Posted 15th November 2007 at 01:23 by magnagei
So I attended a chat on Saturday where just me and Jack talked for about a half hour and he helped clear some things up. I've had the keysound for years now and would only practice for about a week or until I got bored and gave up because my results would be so minimal. Anyways we talked about terror at the gates. I thought my problem was trying to hard to make it happen. After my recent experiences I think it's a combination of both.

The past couple weeks I've been thinking more about the key sound practice. Didn't really play around with it, just thought about it. I've been taking Alexander Technique lessons which is a series of hands on lessons to bring about more bodymind awareness and learn about your happens with the ultimate goal of releasing physical mental and emotional tension and living and moving more effortlessly. I think this is the reason that I have become more interested in MMOs, kind of like the idea that I would 'do better' with them now.

So...Jack's idea of a terror at the gates, or a fear of letting the energy 'do it's thing' gave me a nice conceptual roadmap to play around with. So I tried laying down and just relaxing for a minute, letting go of the idea of trying to make something happen, and then kind of trying to 'give in' to the orgasmic energy. (Jack and I were talking about the idea that the orgasmic energy is like it's own intelligence, it does it's thing you just kind of lay there and let it, coaxing it with key sounds and slight touches)

So for the first time ever, key sound practice felt natural, but it was still rather minimal in the pleasurable feelings. It felt like there was a divine feminine energy going on and some pleasurable feelings. I know off protocol, but that night on a whim I just felt something so I went with it, I think I only did maybe 2 key sounds but touched myself all over quite a few times. This was very pleasurable. It really did feel like it had it's own self and it just came on when I let it. It was very nice, but it also felt satisfying. (I should note that ejaculorgasms haven't felt satisfying for me for a long time now and I didn't even orgasm with this!, just nice feelings)

2 or 3 days later I played around again (just a couple mins ago). At first I felt nothing, so I was trying to play around with my body and my mind to see if it could get into that 'state of being' in which the Energy would start playing around with me. Now I think I can get it at will. For me it's a combination of truly relaxing the mind and relaxing the body. They are the same, but since people (or maybe just me) are so disconnected with their bodies in modern society, it feels like there is a separation.

what does it feel like? It feels like my mind is completely open, nothing in particular going on and no striving. Then once I get this, which is effortless by the way (but that doesn't mean I can make it happen every time, as sometimes we try too hard), I simply try to translate the mental feeling into my body. Then there is an openness in my body. This by itself generates nice feelings, then a key sound or slight touch only amplifies it. I am still very far from an energetic orgasm, but for once in my life I am truly truly enjoying my MMO practice. I'm so excited because i've had the tapes for so long, and have never 'got it', now I am enjoying the journey so I could care less when I achieve the actual MMO.

So that's my advice, let the mind be open, but in the same time don't try to 'hold' the body where it is. Let it be open to. It really feels, at this stage anyways, that you have no say over the energy, you have to let it be it's own entity.

Sorry for the length, hope this was helpful.
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Hi magnagei, thanks for the great post - don't worry about length of post. We have plenty of server space!

Your descriptions are good, and they help other people as well.

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So I attended a chat on Saturday where just me and Jack talked for about a half hour and he helped clear some things up.
I'm glad to hear that!

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I've had the keysound for years now and would only practice for about a week or until I got bored and gave up because my results would be so minimal.
Usually, when results are so minimal, that's an issue of Key Sound(tm) articulation.

I recommend that you take advantage of the new free Key Sound Validation Service in order to make sure that you are indeed articulating the crucial Key Sound correctly.

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Anyways we talked about terror at the gates. I thought my problem was trying too hard to make it happen. After my recent experiences I think it's a combination of both.
That's a very good self calibration!

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The past couple weeks I've been thinking more about the key sound practice. Didn't really play around with it, just thought about it. I've been taking Alexander Technique lessons which is a series of hands on lessons to bring about more bodymind awareness and learn about your happens with the ultimate goal of releasing physical mental and emotional tension and living and moving more effortlessly. I think this is the reason that I have become more interested in MMOs, kind of like the idea that I would 'do better' with them now.
That's an excellent idea! And your reasoning makes a lot of sense.

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So...Jack's idea of a terror at the gates, or a fear of letting the energy 'do it's thing' gave me a nice conceptual roadmap to play around with.
I'm very glad that's helpful!

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So I tried laying down and just relaxing for a minute, letting go of the idea of trying to make something happen,
Excellent!

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and then kind of trying to 'give in' to the orgasmic energy.
Perfect!

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(Jack and I were talking about the idea that the orgasmic energy is like it's own intelligence,
Yes... the orgasmic energy and the Echo Effects are your primary guru.

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it does it's thing and you just kind of lay there and let it, coaxing it with key sounds and slight touches)
Yes, that's exactly! I would only add the word "gently" before the word "coaxing".

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So for the first time ever, key sound practice felt natural,
That's actually a big step forward!

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but it was still rather minimal in the pleasurable feelings.
Patience, grasshopper, patience! :-) if you are getting any pleasurable feelings at all from the practice at this stage, that's a plus, in fact it's a big plus... it's a mind noise trap to label that experience as "minimal."

I realize that my comment may sound odd to you after all the time you have been practicing this method.

But keep in mind that it's only very recently that you have made a very important shift in your attitude and in the way that you are mentally framing your practice as you described the beginning of this post.

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It felt like there was a divine feminine energy going on and some pleasurable feelings.
That's wonderful! I'd like to hear more Re: what you mean by "feminine" energy.

That's not a criticism, I would just like you to articulate a little more with that label means to you experientially.

It's time for men to be able to claim that experience as well!

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I know off protocol,
It's not really off protocol in the larger sense... as long as you continue to do the 20 minute practice sessions pretty much as I describe suggest, the rest of the time, feel free to experiment!

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but that night on a whim I just felt something so I went with it,
It's excellent!

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I think I only did maybe 2 key sounds but touched myself all over quite a few times. This was very pleasurable. It really did feel like it had it's own self and it just came on when I let it. It was very nice, but it also felt satisfying. (I should note that ejaculorgasms haven't felt satisfying for me for a long time now and I didn't even orgasm with this!, just nice feelings)
This is a great leap forward in your practice! Way to go, and way to grow!

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2 or 3 days later I played around again (just a couple mins ago). At first I felt nothing, so I was trying to play around with my body and my mind to see if it could get into that 'state of being' in which the Energy would start playing around with me. Now I think I can get it at will.
That is huge!!! Wow!

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For me it's a combination of truly relaxing the mind and relaxing the body.
Yes, that's it exactly!

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They are the same, but since people (or maybe just me) are so disconnected with their bodies in modern society, it feels like there is a separation.
Yes I agree entirely, and that's why I am so committed to this work... because as people reconnect in this way we can literally change the world for the better!

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what does it feel like? It feels like my mind is completely open, nothing in particular going on and no striving.
That is absolutely, perfectly on Protocol!

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Then once I get this, which is effortless by the way
You're in the Zone, Brother!

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(but that doesn't mean I can make it happen every time, as sometimes we try too hard),
Yes, you are human, and you are still learning... the very important point about what you're describing however, use that you are now successfully self-calibrating!

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I simply try to translate the mental feeling into my body. Then there is an openness in my body. This by itself generates nice feelings, then a key sound or slight touch only amplifies it.
This represents HUGE success!

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I am still very far from an energetic orgasm,
TILT!!!

How can you possibly know that ahead of time!!! Hmmmmm???? :-)

Please remind yourself over and over the phrase that appears so often in this forum since 1995: "I wasn't expecting anything, AND THEN it happened!" :-)

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but for once in my life I am truly truly enjoying my MMO practice.
This is a HUGE breakthrough for you!!!

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I'm so excited because i've had the tapes for so long, and have never 'got it', now I am enjoying the journey so I could care less when I achieve the actual MMO.
... And that Dear Brother is the PERFECT place to be!!! THAT is IN THE ZONE!!!

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So that's my advice, let the mind be open, but in the same time don't try to 'hold' the body where it is. Let it be open too.
That is SUPERB advice!

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It really feels, at this stage anyways, that you have no say over the energy, you have to let it be it's own entity.
That is absolutely correct... and not only at this early stage... but in fact, the more you are able to maintain that relationship is energy the greater the gifts it will give to you -- when you least expect it!

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Sorry for the length,
Now your next lesson is to learn how to stop apologizing for such wonderful testimony and such lucid teaching of your brothers and sisters in this practice! :-)

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hope this was helpful.
What's your hunch about that? :-)

This is absolutely a Gold Nugget post!!!

Again, my heartfelt congratulations to you!!!
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Posted 3rd December 2007 at 20:23 by Jack Jack is offline
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This is exciting, magnagei!

I'm looking forward to your next instalment.

Good luck.
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Posted 3rd December 2007 at 23:53 by mog mog is offline
 
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